geiger wrote:Gotcha. Makes sense. He didn't put up 20, 5 and 5 when he didn't get the ball and was a kid coming out after his sophmore season. He then put up that for a year and a half - his numbers are 20, 5, 5 and 2 since they traded Iverson, so a season and a half. I guess he'll get worse now that he also has Brand here to take pressure off him on offense and take away any double teams he faced and now that he's more experienced and is entering his prime. That's usually how these thing work out. Guys come in and put up great numbers as 20 year old role players. Then, they get lucky for a year and a half when they put up better numbers, so they shouldn't be rewarded for it.
Actually, he really did get lucky. He got alot more shot attempts after the departure of C-webb and AI. He was asked to be the no.1 option/franchise player for the sixers. Pretty lucky for a player of Iggy's caliber. And because of this, it lead him to have a increased in his shot attempts and in domino effect, increased his point production. But if you tell me that Iggy has improved his game, he's been the same old Iggy. Yes, he's TO might not be that horrendous anymore with the slight decresed from 3.4TOpg to 2.6TOpg. But he's still the same guy who can't create his own shots, can't live up to the comparison of guys like Pierce or Pippen. Basically a third to fourth option in a non-sixers type team.
Should he be rewarded for his performance with the Sixers for the past 2-3 years? I do believe he should. But 12.5m/year is asking too much. Especially after he performed horribly during the play-offs and still lacked (subjective or non-statistical) improvement in his game like improving his shooting (mechanics and percentage), improving his defense (actually declined last year but I'd still take it) and ability to score the basket more by creating his own shots.
What a horrible move Stefanski made by re-upping Williams for 5 years and $25 millions. What a moron to pay that for a guy who is a third string PG. Well, at least that's what he was his first two years. He's not an 11.5 and 3.5 player, he only did that for one year.
The thing with Louis Williams is we are paying him for his potential/improvement as basis. Unlike with Iggy, Louis Williams did show MAJOR improvement in his game in the past couple of year. He was a completely different player when he was in his rookie year.
What the hell are you talking about. Why does Brand take away scoring opportunities? He is a perfect team player - he doesn't dominate the ball on offense and he draws double teams. Corey Maggette, who isn't as good as Iggy, put up 20 playing with Brand. I guess adding a team oriented, PF who commands double teams is going to take away scoring opportunities and not add them. That's how it works.
Actually, Maggette had 4 more shot attempts and scored 6 more points without Elton Brand. He had more shot opportunities last season (non-elton brand season).
Come to think of it, with the addition of Elton, if Iggy dropped let's say 4-6 points because of Elton, and will most likely drop 2-3 rebounds per game, would he still deserve his 12.5m contract?
(PROJECTED) 15ppg/3rpg/4apg (not a scorer nor a shooter SG) = $12.5M/year player (making more than Caron, Kevin Martin, Deng, and Gerald Wallace)?
Iggy will probably get less assists, steals, rebounds and play worse defense as well, and his shooting percentage will go down with all those open shots.
I'd like to add that his TO's will most likely be down, and shooting percentages might still be the same or might increase but not that much. Mainly because it's not about the contested shots that is hindering his shooting, it's mostly because of his shooting mechanic.
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