Kinda OT: Kings/Sixers game (Webber's debut)

[KF10]

If you guys are bored or anything. There is highlights of Webber's debut game. (It is mostly Sixers highlights) This is the game when AI intentional miss the free throw and having Webber tying the game but came up short. Kings win. But by the way, Iverson was a beast during this game. His shots looked great. Even though he scored 27 points... Props to the maker for the video. I'm not claiming the video as my own, of course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5k0o8sDpFU

[sixerguy]

This is the game when AI intentional miss the free throw and having Webber tying the game but came up short. Kings win.

Reality hit like a ton of bricks after that moment. Kings, Sixers, and fans had that speechless look in their face after he missed. Philly fans thought we were getting the Webber of old, who would of made that shot, and after he missed, it set the tone for the horrible career he had as a Sixer. Inside, Kenny Thomas was laughing his ass off.

[KF10]

Yeah, I remember Sixers' expectation of Webber. IMO they were kinda high though. You can't blame Webber though. He had bummed knees. The Sixers should have known that they are not getting the same franchise player back in the early 00s.

But Webber did put up 20/10 for the Sixers though. And the Sixers payed a bargain price for Webber. But then again, Webber should have lead the Sixers at least into the 2nd round or something in that year...

And yes, Thomas was laughing his *** off. Look at Thomas in the video. When he hears the final buzzer, you can see his arms raised triumphantly.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Not just 20/10 though. It's how he averaged those 20/10. Webber was more of an isolation PF who ended up giving us ZER0 post play. What hurt us is that we lost Corliss Williamson in the trade. Arguably the lone post player we had. I really liked Williamson in his prime. Nice guy who can be a spark off the bench.

Jim O'Brien and Glenn Robinson butting heads was unfortunate. Robinson had the type of game that could've complimented that 04 Sixers team with his low post, mid range jumper game.

PG-AI
SG-Iggy
SF-Robinson
PF-Webber
C-Dalembert

One can only dream. And/or play NBA live 2007.

[Loose Cannon]

I was excited about the trade until I realized his knees were dysfunctional and his vertical was nonexistent.

[The Guilty Party]

I was definitely excited when that trade happened and like a lot of people, I was waiting for Iverson and Webber to mesh and take the Sixers back toward the top of the Eastern Conference. After the playoff loss to the Pistons, I more or less knew that not only was the Webber era not going to be great but I sensed the end of the Iverson era coming as well.

[KF10]

Not just 20/10 though. It's how he averaged those 20/10. Webber was more of an isolation PF who ended up giving us ZER0 post play. What hurt us is that we lost Corliss Williamson in the trade. Arguably the lone post player we had. I really liked Williamson in his prime. Nice guy who can be a spark off the bench.

Jim O'Brien and Glenn Robinson butting heads was unfortunate. Robinson had the type of game that could've complimented that 04 Sixers team with his low post, mid range jumper game.

PG-AI
SG-Iggy
SF-Robinson
PF-Webber
C-Dalembert

One can only dream. And/or play NBA live 2007.

Yeah, Webber likes to play around the high post/elbow area. This usually result to his mid range J. Which wasn't all that great anymore. 43.4% FG...He did have a post game but he usually sticks to the perimeter.

And one point of interest, when he arrived to Philly, he averaged the LOWEST assists there. 3.1, 3.4, 3.4. Probably due to a ball dominant guard, Iverson and the whole Philly's offensive system as a whole. Webber usually averages 5 assists for his tenure of the Kings. I'm not saying that it is Philly's fault but when I heard of the trade, I knew it wouldn't be an ideal fit for Webber and Sixers...

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

No, Webber literally didn't pass it. I promise you, the playmaker of the past dissappeared. Larry Brown said it, and I'll say it. Iverson's best year was with Jim O'Brien. If Dalembert didn't pout, we would still have Jim as a head coach. But Dalembert was in a contract year so.

[KF10]

No, Webber literally didn't pass it. I promise you, the playmaker of the past dissappeared. Larry Brown said it, and I'll say it. Iverson's best year was with Jim O'Brien. If Dalembert didn't pout, we would still have Jim as a head coach. But Dalembert was in a contract year so.

Really? I was under the assumption that Webber still had his playmaking mentality but those variables (Iverson/Sixers Offensive system) limited that. But if you said what you said is true, ok then I go along with that claim. You obviously watch more Sixers game than me and know the situation better...

[bballin76]

nah, the problem Webber had with his assists was the same Iverson had for many years playing here. There just wasn't adequate talent surrounding either player to garner assists. I don't blame Webber for his assists dropping, he didn't have many options to pass the ball to, other than Iverson or a wide open Korver.

[KF10]

nah, the problem Webber had with his assists was the same Iverson had for many years playing here. There just wasn't adequate talent surrounding either player to garner assists. I don't blame Webber for his assists dropping, he didn't have many options to pass the ball to, other than Iverson or a wide open Korver.

Yeah, I can see that. Other than Iverson, Korver, and probably a young unblossomed Iggy, there wasn't any legit options that Webber can work with. Dalembert, Jackson, McKie, Rogers, Salmons, Bradley, Barnes, Davis, and Green were not really options to make the offense happen IMO.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

We literally were an isolation offense with Webber here though. And it was basically a catch and shoot game between Iverson and Webber. That in of itself disrupted the offense. People will naturally jump on Iverson for this, but I say hold on a second. Allen Iverson generally kept us in playoff contention and he averaged 30/10 AST in the playoff series with Detroit. Iverson's playmaking abilities under O'Brien were fantastic.

And Webber didn't have to dominate the post or anything like that. He just had to try and attract doubles. Had Webber had enough guts to station himself downlow, the Sixers would've been scary. With Kyle Korver, Iverson, Iguodala(Iggy always had an above decent shot). Philadelphia would've reduplicated the Sacramento Kings with good perimeter defense(Iverson, Iggy, Mckie was still average).

[KF10]

We literally were an isolation offense with Webber here though. And it was basically a catch and shoot game between Iverson and Webber. That in of itself disrupted the offense. People will naturally jump on Iverson for this, but I say hold on a second. Allen Iverson generally kept us in playoff contention and he averaged 30/10 AST in the playoff series with Detroit. Iverson's playmaking abilities under O'Brien were fantastic.

And Webber didn't have to dominate the post or anything like that. He just had to try and attract doubles. Had Webber had enough guts to station himself downlow, the Sixers would've been scary. With Kyle Korver, Iverson, Iguodala(Iggy always had an above decent shot). Philadelphia would've reduplicated the Sacramento Kings with good perimeter defense(Iverson, Iggy, Mckie was still average).

I see. That's understandable. But then again, Webber is never known to be a post player, even though, he has moves down low. That was one of Webber's flaws...

[PhillyRocks1]

I don't give Eskin alot of props but he called this trade as "not a good trade" from the moment it happened. And of course I called him an idiot.