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Where do our big 3 rank among prospects since 2014?

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Overall, where do Fultz, Simmons, Embiid rank among prospects since 2014?

They are the top 3 prospects since 2014
2
12%
All 3 within the top 4
0
No votes
All 3 within the top 5
4
24%
All 3 within the top 6
4
24%
All 3 within the top 7
1
6%
All 3 within the top 8
1
6%
All 3 within the top 9
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No votes
All 3 within the top 10
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18%
Other
2
12%
 
Total votes: 17

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Where do our big 3 rank among prospects since 2014? 

Post#1 » by sixers238 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:59 pm

I know we've all been thinking about how awesome Fultz, Simmons, and Embiid can potentially be together. It had me wondering just how good are they as prospects in comparison to other players drafted since 2014? Do we have the 3 best prospects coming out of the last 4 drafts? Rank our big 3 and decide for yourself whether or not you want to factor in injury history, off-the-court issues, etc. Just rank them according to when they were coming out, NOT where they are now. I'll start:

1. KAT
2. Embiid
3. Simmons
4. Wiggins
5. Fultz
6. Ball
7. Parker
8. Ingram
9. Russell
10. Porzingas

I'd vote 3 within the top 5...
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Re: Where do our big 3 rank among prospects since 2014? 

Post#2 » by Sixersftw » Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:24 pm

Assuming that we are not factoring injury history unless it was pre-college like a DSJ or Giles. Obviously, some of these look better than others at this point but as prospects the second they were done with the NCAA it goes imo:

1. Embiid
2. KAT
3. Simmons
4. Wiggins
5. Fultz
6. Parker
7. Russell
8. Ball
9. Ingram

It all starts to blend in after that. Porzingod was a high level prospect but was considered a bit risky and definitely a project. JJ and Tatum were/are a bit divisive. Some love them some hate them. Any of those 3 seem right to me at 10 though.
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Re: Where do our big 3 rank among prospects since 2014? 

Post#3 » by JojoSlimbiid » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:19 pm

Why do people enjoy these topics so much."Where does so and so rank in the lasts draft?" It's almost always based on revisionist history and there really isn't any meaningful discussion to have because of it.
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Re: Where do our big 3 rank among prospects since 2014? 

Post#4 » by LloydFree » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:20 pm

This is always a tricky question. There is a tendency to re-rank the players based on how they perform at the NBA level. But based on how I thought of the players at the time of his each player's draft day...

1. Embiid
2. Towns
3. Simmons
4. Ball
5. Russell
6. J. Jackson
7. Ingram
8. Wiggins
9. Parker
10.D. Smith

Edit: When I look back again, I probably liked Wiggins a little more than Ingram.
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Re: Where do our big 3 rank among prospects since 2014? 

Post#5 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:17 pm

I'm going to be labeled a homer but here it is.
1. Simmons
2. Embiid
3. Towns
4. Ball
5. Jackson
6. Fultz
7. Wiggins
8. Okafor(sadly I had him the 2nd best prospect in the 2015 draft smh)
9. Parker
10. Ingram
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Post#6 » by SexDrugsPnR » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:11 pm

nobody mentioning jokic? i think he should definitely be in the top 5.
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Post#7 » by bball4life » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:37 pm

SexDrugsPnR wrote:nobody mentioning jokic? i think he should definitely be in the top 5.

Good call on Jokic.

1) Embiid
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2) Simmons
3) Towns
4) Porzingis
5) Jokic
6) Fultz
7) Ball
8) Josh Jackson
9) Ingram
10) Wiggins


KAT doesn't go higher until he's no longer the worst defensive center in the league.


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Post#8 » by bball4life » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:38 pm

Also can't believe the Zinger isn't on anybody's list


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Re: Where do our big 3 rank among prospects since 2014? 

Post#9 » by Sixerscan » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:50 pm

bball4life wrote:
SexDrugsPnR wrote:nobody mentioning jokic? i think he should definitely be in the top 5.

Good call on Jokic.

1) Embiid
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2) Simmons
3) Towns
4) Porzingis
5) Jokic
6) Fultz
7) Ball
8) Josh Jackson
9) Ingram
10) Wiggins


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Pretty sure the premise is top prospects at the time of the draft. Jokic was a 2nd round pick.
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Re: Where do our big 3 rank among prospects since 2014? 

Post#10 » by SexDrugsPnR » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:54 pm

Sixerscan wrote:Pretty sure the premise is top prospects at the time of the draft. Jokic was a 2nd round pick.


fair enough, but then i don't really see the point in discussing this, since you could basically just go by draft position. if we're going by time of draft, okafor should probably make the top 10 list.
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Post#11 » by 76ciology » Sun Aug 13, 2017 4:40 pm

1.) Towns - star production but just a young age
2.) Biid - will end #1 w/ more sample size
3.) Ben Simmons - will end up #2 w/more sample size
4.) Jokic - totally not high on him but im being fair because of his insane +/-
5.) KP - not that high on him but he's productive and promising.
6.) Fultz - chance to rewrite definition of modern PG (positionless movement)
7.) Ball - star impact PG. Not a fan of non scoring guards
8.) Wiggins - eye candy scoring wing
9.) Ingram - i like him a lot (more than KP;deflections+3s) but his inconsistency is just crazy
10.) DLo - poor version of Fultz mostly because he's more of a SG than PG
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Re: Where do our big 3 rank among prospects since 2014? 

Post#12 » by LloydFree » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:04 pm

76ciology wrote:1.) Towns - star production but just a young age
2.) Biid - will end #1 w/ more sample size
3.) Ben Simmons - will end up #2 w/more sample size
4.) Jokic - totally not high on him but im being fair because of his insane +/-
5.) KP - not that high on him but he's productive and promising.
6.) Fultz - chance to rewrite definition of modern PG (positionless movement)
7.) Ball - star impact PG. Not a fan of non scoring guards
8.) Wiggins - eye candy scoring wing
9.) Ingram - i like him a lot (more than KP;deflections+3s) but his inconsistency is just crazy
10.) DLo - poor version of Fultz mostly because he's more of a SG than PG


Well, if you're going to rank them based on how they've performed, instead of how you perceived them at the time of their drafts, then you left out Myles Turner, Gary Harris and Devin Booker ...
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Re: Where do our big 3 rank among prospects since 2014? 

Post#13 » by HotelVitale » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:47 pm

SexDrugsPnR wrote:
Sixerscan wrote: Pretty sure the premise is top prospects at the time of the draft. Jokic was a 2nd round pick.
fair enough, but then i don't really see the point in discussing this, since you could basically just go by draft position. if we're going by time of draft, okafor should probably make the top 10 list.

You're missing the OP's premise. It's asking, given the top picks in the '14, '15, '16, and '17 draft, where would Simmons/Embiid/Fultz rank in terms of expectations coming in. You can't just go by draft position since there were 4 #1s, 4 #2s, etc, and since obviously some #1s and #2s or #3s were better prospects than others.
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Re: Where do our big 3 rank among prospects since 2014? 

Post#14 » by sixers238 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:28 pm

HotelVitale wrote:
SexDrugsPnR wrote:
Sixerscan wrote: Pretty sure the premise is top prospects at the time of the draft. Jokic was a 2nd round pick.
fair enough, but then i don't really see the point in discussing this, since you could basically just go by draft position. if we're going by time of draft, okafor should probably make the top 10 list.

You're missing the OP's premise. It's asking, given the top picks in the '14, '15, '16, and '17 draft, where would Simmons/Embiid/Fultz rank in terms of expectations coming in. You can't just go by draft position since there were 4 #1s, 4 #2s, etc, and since obviously some #1s and #2s or #3s were better prospects than others.


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Post#15 » by eskimo » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:40 am

My personal top 10:

1. Embiid
2. Towns
3. Simmons
4. Fultz
5. Wiggins
6. Parker
7. Ball
8. D. Russell
9. Porzingas
10. B. Ingram

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