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Re: Sixers waive George Hill 

Post#41 » by Stanford » Tue Aug 3, 2021 3:17 pm

Sixersftw wrote:Clearly Morey isn't washed or even not a top GM at this point.


um i agree then
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Re: Sixers waive George Hill 

Post#42 » by DCasey91 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 3:19 pm

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DCasey91 wrote:I’m guessing Korkmaz and Harris is gone, possibly split into smaller contracts. Owners are owners.

Bledsoe/Adams might happen.... yikes lol.

CJ isn’t the answer but if it’s for Harris that’ll do for now.

Somehow I’m hoping we end up with Ingram somehow.


They already announced Korkmaz was re-signing. 3-15.


They can trade him later on can’t they?
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Re: Sixers waive George Hill 

Post#43 » by Sixersftw » Tue Aug 3, 2021 3:21 pm

Stanford wrote:
Sixersftw wrote:Clearly Morey isn't washed or even not a top GM at this point.


um i agree then

Well then whats the hubbub about bub?

Concern =/= disdain.
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Re: Sixers waive George Hill 

Post#44 » by the_process » Tue Aug 3, 2021 3:23 pm

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the_process wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:I’m guessing Korkmaz and Harris is gone, possibly split into smaller contracts. Owners are owners.

Bledsoe/Adams might happen.... yikes lol.

CJ isn’t the answer but if it’s for Harris that’ll do for now.

Somehow I’m hoping we end up with Ingram somehow.


They already announced Korkmaz was re-signing. 3-15.


They can trade him later on can’t they?


Yes after December 15th I believe? Or January 15th? Anyway, if they wanted Korkmaz gone they just wouldn’t have re-signed him was my point.
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Re: Sixers waive George Hill 

Post#45 » by BNelley24 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 3:23 pm

Believe me, I still am not over us not landing Harden. You HAVE to overpay there man. I swear I feel like Doc got in his ear about Ben and wanting to coach him which made Morey slightly gunshy. We had all seen Simmons in the playoffs before last year and knew that deal was our chance for a title. Harden to Brooklyn was a top 5 lowest point ever being a Philly fan. That being said I am really interested with how the rest of the off season plays out. Gotta give Morey another chance here,..
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Re: Sixers waive George Hill 

Post#46 » by Sixersftw » Tue Aug 3, 2021 3:28 pm

BNelley24 wrote:Harden to Brooklyn was a top 5 lowest point ever being a Philly fan.

Sir!? Our existence is a never ending sports hellscape. That was just Tuesday.
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Re: Sixers waive George Hill 

Post#47 » by TTP » Tue Aug 3, 2021 3:28 pm

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Sixersftw wrote:Gotta see if this leads to something else but the needle on the Morey is washed-o-meter started moving a little.


:roll:

Give me a break. It was a deadline move to acquire guard help for the playoffs that cost 2 seconds. They bought a second for cash less than a week ago.

What was he supposed to do? Trade Maxey, Thybulle and 2 firsts for Lowry? That would have made him less washed?

Running a basketball team isn't like playing for one. You can't do the equivalent of dropping 50 in a night through talent alone. Morey can't email Sam Presti a spreadsheet and force him to trade SGA for Ben in an evening.

No he wasn't supposed to do whatever series of strawmen you threw out and I'm being hyperbolic. Clearly Morey isn't washed or even not a top GM at this point. Twas a joke but I've also seen the asset base of this team suffer death from a thousand cuts. Bradley showed signs of being a solid backup and you can say those 2nds don't matter but I'd disagree. The team has **** all for assets (in comparison to where they were) so I hope we can eek out value wherever we can.


It's worth mentioning that Poirier and Ferguson needed to be dumped in the deal, and the 2nds were part of that cost as well. Given that those dead contracts were salary taken on from the Horford trade, whose contract Morey inherited, you could make a reasonable argument that those cuts should be posthumously re-assigned to the Elton Brand administration.
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Re: Sixers waive George Hill 

Post#48 » by Stanford » Tue Aug 3, 2021 3:38 pm

Sixersftw wrote:Well then whats the hubbub about bub?

Concern =/= disdain.


Plenty of people are legitimately saying that he's washed (this term specifically). Hard to discern you from those people when you're using the same word.

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Re: Sixers waive George Hill 

Post#49 » by zaz102 » Tue Aug 3, 2021 3:53 pm

Stanford wrote:
Sixersftw wrote:Well then whats the hubbub about bub?

Concern =/= disdain.


Plenty of people are legitimately saying that he's washed (this term specifically). Hard to discern you from those people when you're using the same word.

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The same people who said Morey was washed said that they would've traded Simmons for Hield to make them a significantly stronger contender and Muscala would've been the answer last season.

He dealt with a significant problem in Horford and turned the team around. He has another problem this year. Let's let things play out and see what happens.

A couple seconds and George Hills dead money isn't great, but they're not team killers either like I'm sure some of these contract being handed out may end up being or if he makes a bad trade for Simmons.
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Re: Sixers waive George Hill 

Post#50 » by M2J » Wed Aug 4, 2021 4:52 am

76ciology wrote:Hey, I still want Morey. I still think he can be better.

This is just discussion.

When you’re playing from behind, you can’t make these bad moves.

Sure, be lose his balance after not landing Harden. But you should just stay calm and weather the storm.

We should have just hold unto Al. Give him D12’s minutes.
Then find some PG with the money we gave D12’s money.

If signing Al was a bad move, then doubling down by trading him and a pick for cap space then later trading Bradley, Ferguson and a couple of 2nd round picks for George Hill was just a mistake.

With D12’s money, we likely could get better guards than Ghill out there.

Maybe hold unto Al and then trade Al for Kemba instead?

Like I said, this is just discussion. Everyone makes mistakes nobody is perfect.

Nothing is final, everything can make sense with just a future move


Not just discussion... Facts


They're not likely to even get anyone good with the mle.

I'm not here to say that I didn't agree with the Al trade, but other moves they didn't make to keep assets are problematic. Last year was a year to go all in. Lowry was the move. But, even worse he didn't pick up Derrick Rose, who could have been had in a trade for cheap.

The team is lost now. Morey's plan is to trade Ben for a Dame Lillard or Harden type player, including these assets. But, that move will leave other holes... When the proper move was to add to Ben and Jo and ultimately Tobi, and have a strength in numbers type team around your MVP Joel.

He may just package something for a Walker, but that's clearly unlikely now without even keeping Hill.

You guys are going to lose Embiid for nothing, and Ben Simmons for less than he's worth.
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Re: Sixers waive George Hill 

Post#51 » by 76ciology » Wed Aug 4, 2021 5:20 am

M2J wrote:
76ciology wrote:Hey, I still want Morey. I still think he can be better.

This is just discussion.

When you’re playing from behind, you can’t make these bad moves.

Sure, be lose his balance after not landing Harden. But you should just stay calm and weather the storm.

We should have just hold unto Al. Give him D12’s minutes.
Then find some PG with the money we gave D12’s money.

If signing Al was a bad move, then doubling down by trading him and a pick for cap space then later trading Bradley, Ferguson and a couple of 2nd round picks for George Hill was just a mistake.

With D12’s money, we likely could get better guards than Ghill out there.

Maybe hold unto Al and then trade Al for Kemba instead?

Like I said, this is just discussion. Everyone makes mistakes nobody is perfect.

Nothing is final, everything can make sense with just a future move


Not just discussion... Facts


They're not likely to even get anyone good with the mle.

I'm not here to say that I didn't agree with the Al trade, but other moves they didn't make to keep assets are problematic. Last year was a year to go all in. Lowry was the move. But, even worse he didn't pick up Derrick Rose, who could have been had in a trade for cheap.

The team is lost now. Morey's plan is to trade Ben for a Dame Lillard or Harden type player, including these assets. But, that move will leave other holes... When the proper move was to add to Ben and Jo and ultimately Tobi, and have a strength in numbers type team around your MVP Joel.

He may just package something for a Walker, but that's clearly unlikely now without even keeping Hill.

You guys are going to lose Embiid for nothing, and Ben Simmons for less than he's worth.


Maybe. but either way dont panic :D

I’m looking at Al’s salary. He’d be an expiring after this season.

There are two types of player we need on the team.

First, a perimeter player who can score. Thus the Harden and Dame chase.

What’s the second type? For me, it’s Al. A big who can play with Ben if Embiid is missing 20 games in the reg season and goes into russian roulette when it comes to his availability in the playoffs.

Four of our last 5 moves were all about adding bigs. Those two random guys in the second round, drummond and niang.

We could had just have Al. Then just taking all those opportunities in getting guards instead.

And what’s worse is we gave up a 2025 1st round pick, which could have been a make or break asset for the Harden deal.

You potentially could had Al, Harden, Tobi and Biid last season.

Is Al overpaid? I think it’s relative. I think the amount of your need justifies for the amount you pay. That’s why hospital bills are overpriced :lol:

And for me, the trade is just doubling down on a mistake.

And its for what? Opening up an MLE to sign Niang?

All i can say is just read the sentiment about our moves all you can read is “but i trust morey”.

But yeah.. dont panic. We still have time and i trust morey.
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Re: Sixers waive George Hill 

Post#52 » by M2J » Wed Aug 4, 2021 9:03 am

Morey is a savvy GM. Understands the bigger picture. But, he's not a miracle worker. His career this far is one move.... Trading for Harden. He's a one trick pony.

Though, he is also known for being able to get the 2nd superstar. Howard, Paul, and Russell. But, I think it's clear he's not going to have the time with Joel. I think healthy Joel is the best player in the NBA right now, even partially healthy Joel...but he can't stay healthy.

I'll be impressed with Daryl if he can flip Ben into something better. Tobias and the young assets into a playmaker. Great! The young assets and fillers into a playmaker that fits... Perfect! But, he's totally wasting time trying to only focus on turning Ben into the disgruntled superstar it seems.

What would impress me right now is him salvaging this by flipping Joel into a near decade of success for this team.

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