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Re: Let’s explore the possibility of a Dame and Embiid led Sixers team 

Post#81 » by kuclas » Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:01 pm

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mksp wrote:If Joel was as good offensively as you all said we wouldn't have lost to ATL.

His conditioning and injury history is part of his game. It's one of the reasons why he is not a reliable offensive weapon in the playoffs.


We are not a high iq fanbase. We look at ppg and use that to determine offensive value.

Embiid is a turnover prone midrange loving post up big man with little to no playmaking. That type of player will never be near the top offensive player in the league.

He is not a top 10 offensive player. Here are 10 player who are easily better on offense:

Curry
KD
Kyrie
Lebron
Harden
Jokic
Luka
Giannis
Lillard
Trae

If you cant playmake you are not a top offensive player.

Embiid is a great player because he is a good on offense and defense but he is not a top offensive player who you can run your offense through.

Embiid is One of the most effective offensive players at least for the first half and through the 3 quarters

You can’t disagree with that.

But we need someone to take us home. Embiid can keep any game close by himself. But he simply can’t be option 1A in the last 2-3 min of a game. Yes. A lot of it has to be fatigue. But in this league. Wings and guards need to be closers. Not your 7 foot center starting the offense from 15 feet out because your starting point guard is incapable of making a shot outside of 5 feet.

That’s why we need to trade for an elite wing or guard at all cost. And no. CJ doesn’t move the needle. Neither does Dlo or sexton. Fox can’t shoot a lick either. He can get to the rim. So I’m not sure if he’s the answer. Obviously we should go after dame. But. I’m afraid Portland won’t trade him because future draft picks from Sixers May not mean anything and Portland wants almost guarantee top 5-10 picks. If Embiid stays upright with dame. That means 3-4 more years of worthless picks for Portland.
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Re: Let’s explore the possibility of a Dame and Embiid led Sixers team 

Post#82 » by phillynative » Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:03 pm

Although I agree we wouldn't have beat a healthy nets or bucks team.
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Re: Let’s explore the possibility of a Dame and Embiid led Sixers team 

Post#83 » by DCasey91 » Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:48 pm

Do it. Enough pussyfooting around. Go all in and hope for the best.

If you think he’s the cornerstone then cash it all in. If you don’t think he is then start again. Really really simple.

I mean it’s always been Embiid or bust.
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Re: Let’s explore the possibility of a Dame and Embiid led Sixers team 

Post#84 » by BNelley24 » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:36 am

Playing the what if game is pointless. You never know how things would turn out. If dame becomes available you go all in. It is going to cost Simmons (3rd team maybe), Thybulle, Maxey, and multiple picks and it’s very steep but worth it
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Re: Let’s explore the possibility of a Dame and Embiid led Sixers team 

Post#85 » by 76ciology » Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:09 am

BNelley24 wrote:Playing the what if game is pointless. You never know how things would turn out. If dame becomes available you go all in. It is going to cost Simmons (3rd team maybe), Thybulle, Maxey, and multiple picks and it’s very steep but worth it


Exactly.

Future have branch after branch of scenarios you can’t predict. Think about it.. who would have thought Suns would make the finals and Nets would add Harden by last offseason. And after the Nets land Harden, most people think Nets is a sure in for the Finals.

Just go all in if you have a chance to get an MVP caliber player to pair with Embiid. If it flops, then you rebuild from scratch. Its much better than not having the balls and keep regretting not trading Ben for Kawhi or not being able to land Harden.

Atleast you try.
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Re: Let’s explore the possibility of a Dame and Embiid led Sixers team 

Post#86 » by Hussien Fatal » Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:17 am

If we get dame it’s going to be very easy to fill out the rest of the team as a lot of players like to ring chase.
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Re: Let’s explore the possibility of a Dame and Embiid led Sixers team 

Post#87 » by Sixteen » Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:24 pm

Hussien Fatal wrote:If we get dame it’s going to be very easy to fill out the rest of the team as a lot of players like to ring chase.


We say this every season. And every season players choose other teams. We were the top seed in the east and often looked like the best team in the league during the regular season. Still, nobody was knocking down doors to come here.
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Re: Let’s explore the possibility of a Dame and Embiid led Sixers team 

Post#88 » by Hussien Fatal » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:03 pm

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Hussien Fatal wrote:If we get dame it’s going to be very easy to fill out the rest of the team as a lot of players like to ring chase.


We say this every season. And every season players choose other teams. We were the top seed in the east and often looked like the best team in the league during the regular season. Still, nobody was knocking down doors to come here.


Not true, Dwight signed with us
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Re: Let’s explore the possibility of a Dame and Embiid led Sixers team 

Post#89 » by downtownpie » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:53 am

It will be fascinating to see what happens if Simmons turns into Beal or similar. Will Embiid be able to maintain his numbers with a high scoring guard and Harris? Will he also he an mvp candidate?
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Re: Let’s explore the possibility of a Dame and Embiid led Sixers team 

Post#90 » by rzzzzz » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:31 pm

kuclas wrote:Embiid is One of the most effective offensive players at least for the first half and through the 3 quarters


It’s why Jimmy had a positive effect. He had at least some “finisher” in him. Dame would be a whole lot better.
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Post#91 » by rzzzzz » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:35 pm

Phila Tough wrote:
Hussien Fatal wrote:If we get dame it’s going to be very easy to fill out the rest of the team as a lot of players like to ring chase.


We say this every season. And every season players choose other teams. We were the top seed in the east and often looked like the best team in the league during the regular season. Still, nobody was knocking down doors to come here.


We say it every year, but don’t do it. Jimmy was the closet we had to a 2nd star next to Embiid, and Brett chased him out of town the second Harris gave him the extension.

You could argue that Doc chose us because of Embiid and thinking he could fix Harris and Ben. He didn’t do that bad with Harris, but Ben remained stubborn and intimidated. Embiid plus Dame is a level of attraction we haven’t seen in decades.
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Re: Let’s explore the possibility of a Dame and Embiid led Sixers team 

Post#92 » by 76ciology » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:33 pm

^ i think doc and morey were both expecting Harden.

Or maybe Doc’s mission is to pump the career of his son in law :lol:
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Post#93 » by SparksFly87 » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:54 pm

Morey left the rockets and burnt bridges with the rockets . No way in hell harden was considered being traded to Philly.
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Post#94 » by 76ciology » Wed Aug 4, 2021 6:08 pm

Drummond such a perfect addition if we got Dame huh?
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Post#95 » by agiaco » Wed Aug 4, 2021 6:36 pm

Sixers hired Phil Beckner, former Weber St assistant and Dame's trainer.

https://www.crossingbroad.com/2021/08/lets-overreact-to-this-sixers-tidbit.html
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Post#96 » by 76ciology » Wed Aug 4, 2021 7:15 pm

agiaco wrote:Sixers hired Phil Beckner, former Weber St assistant and Dame's trainer.

https://www.crossingbroad.com/2021/08/lets-overreact-to-this-sixers-tidbit.html


Yeah, he’s gonna teach Ben how to shoot from the logo
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Re: Let’s explore the possibility of a Dame and Embiid led Sixers team 

Post#97 » by Sixersftw » Wed Aug 4, 2021 7:30 pm

76ciology wrote:
agiaco wrote:Sixers hired Phil Beckner, former Weber St assistant and Dame's trainer.

https://www.crossingbroad.com/2021/08/lets-overreact-to-this-sixers-tidbit.html


Yeah, he’s gonna teach Ben how to shoot from the logo

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