76ciology wrote:Sixerscan wrote:76ciology wrote:In 2 games this season without Ben.
We’re attempting just as many 3s (+-30 attempts) and transition FGAs (+-15 attempts) than without Ben, but we’re better in converting more on those two aspects of scoring.
It’s just 2 game sample size but I dont really see how big we’re missing Ben on offense
SSS and quality of defenses aside, the offense has been good, but a lot of that is Drummond minutes (the ones Ben wouldn’t be playing) have actually been oddly good while the Embiid minutes (the ones Ben would be playing) have been oddly bad. Drummond and Furkan have the two highest offensive ratings on the team. So I don’t know how much Ben being out has anything to do with that, unless you want to say he’s unleashed Point Korkmaz on the world.
Partly that.
Like if you remove Ben, you dont like totally remove his production for there’s gonna be someone who will play his position and also produce. And nowadays there’s like a lot of players who can just step in and we wont even feel like Ben has left a big hole on the offense at all. You look at Maxey or Kork and they’re not even THAT good.
Imagine let’s say we traded Ben for Brogdon, you’ll probably looking a much better offensive team than our team with Ben. Now imagine if we land Morey’s targets like Dame or Beal instead.
Now, im not crazy enough to be so deterministic after two games. But as of two games, I just dont see Ben’s absence made us a worse team and It would be interesting to track our offense if we actually would suffer without one of the league’s leaders in 3pt creation. If not, then it confirms that this metric is just overblown to boost Ben’s importance on offense
I don't think we'll miss his offense nearly as much as his defense. I would say his biggest value for an offense is actually how good he is on defense and rebounding because it's much easier to score after a stop.
Anyway, my point is, so far, they've certainly been less effective in the minutes he would have played, they've just been good enough in the minutes he wouldn't have played anyway to balance it out.
TBD how sustainable that is (probably not very) but I'm not sure how the team doing well with Drummond on the court reflects on Simmons anymore than it reflects on Embiid or anyone else that isn't on the court at that time. What matters is the minutes he would have been on the court.
For example:
Main starting 5 last year: 117.7 offensive rating +14.0 net
Main starting 5 this year: 110.0 offensive rating +6.0 net
Embiid and Simmons together last year: 118.2 offensive rating +15.5 net
Embiid and Maxey this year: 109.9 offensive rating -1.1 net