Tyrese Maxey as a Starter Next Season?

[HotelVitale]

I'm kind of disappointed through two games. He hasn't improved much (even regressed in some areas). He's basically the same guy he was last year, just scoring more points because he's playing double the minutes.
Assist Percentage: 14.5% (19.9% last year)
Three Point Attempts per-36: 4.1 (4 last year)
Deflections: 0.7% steal, 0% block (1.3% steal, 1.2% block last year)

Yeah he hasn't improved much. I have slightly more confidence in his outside shot getting to a reasonable point, and he's turning the ball over less, but even that isn't really a positive because he's not passing it much in general. He's basically still only good at getting buckets on mediocre efficiency, and that's not very valuable on its own, especially when he doesn't get to the line.

Crazy to say it but Furkan should probably be starting at point. He's a far better shooter and is somehow a better playmaker and defender as well. Give Furkan 30+ minutes between PG/SG/SF in different lineups, and let Maxey play 10-20 off the bench, depending on the matchup and how he's playing. Give Joe all of the extra minutes, especially because he can play next to either of them.

No, you were right that's crazy. It's a legit struggle for Korkmaz to bring the ball up and get any action going, for himself or others. That's simply not viable for large stretches of the game, he doesn't have he handle or athleticism/speed for it.

This isn't a defense of Maxey either. He is what he is, and I've always been confused by the big optimism about him (long way to go and it's hard to get there), but he handles the ball with ease and puts pressure on defensive gaps, and I think we have to live with that if the only other option is Korkmaz. Plus in these RS games drive and kick and endless ball movement is a solid offensive option and I think Maxey's passing weaknesses could be mitigated some if he starts seeing his role more as finding some gaps off pn'r to get that going (rather than playmaking per se).

[TTP]

I'm kind of disappointed through two games. He hasn't improved much (even regressed in some areas). He's basically the same guy he was last year, just scoring more points because he's playing double the minutes.
Assist Percentage: 14.5% (19.9% last year)
Three Point Attempts per-36: 4.1 (4 last year)
Deflections: 0.7% steal, 0% block (1.3% steal, 1.2% block last year)

Yeah he hasn't improved much. I have slightly more confidence in his outside shot getting to a reasonable point, and he's turning the ball over less, but even that isn't really a positive because he's not passing it much in general. He's basically still only good at getting buckets on mediocre efficiency, and that's not very valuable on its own, especially when he doesn't get to the line.

Crazy to say it but Furkan should probably be starting at point. He's a far better shooter and is somehow a better playmaker and defender as well. Give Furkan 30+ minutes between PG/SG/SF in different lineups, and let Maxey play 10-20 off the bench, depending on the matchup and how he's playing. Give Joe all of the extra minutes, especially because he can play next to either of them.

No, you were right that's crazy. It's a legit struggle for Korkmaz to bring the ball up and get any action going, for himself or others. That's simply not viable for large stretches of the game, he doesn't have he handle or athleticism/speed for it.

This isn't a defense of Maxey either. He is what he is, and I've always been confused by the big optimism about him (long way to go and it's hard to get there), but he handles the ball with ease and puts pressure on defensive gaps, and I think we have to live with that if the only other option is Korkmaz. Plus in these RS games drive and kick and endless ball movement is a solid offensive option and I think Maxey's passing weaknesses could be mitigated some if he starts seeing his role more as finding some gaps off pn'r to get that going (rather than playmaking per se).

To be fair, not every team is going to have an on-ball defender the caliber of Lu Dort hounding him. I'd still like to see more of point Korkmaz going forward in games where he's able to get the ball into the half court.

Maxey looks like he doesn't even know what to do half the time when he doesn't have the ball in his hands. Defenders aren't staying anywhere near him at the 3 point line (and Maxey still passes up the open 3s), and last night he kept moving to the dunker's spot and around the rim, completely clogging space for no reason. It's like he was trying to do exactly what Ben would do. Embiid was getting visibly frustrated. Ball movement and spacing are going to be way better with Korkmaz out there if he can manage to stay out there.

[76ciology]

I like how Doc and Biid letting Maxey have the spotlight in the third quarter of the Thunder game.

1st - Biid
2nd - Tobi
3rd - Maxey (allows Tobi and Biid to rest for the 4th qtr push)
4th - mostly Biid

[Mik317]

he's learning on the fly but also spends most of the early game off ball and deferring a bit. He needs to be a more willing catch and shoot guy for that to truly work tho or cut off ball better.

He's been fine otherwise. Probably works better as an off bench spark plug right now and probably forever...

[HotelVitale]

Yeah he hasn't improved much. I have slightly more confidence in his outside shot getting to a reasonable point, and he's turning the ball over less, but even that isn't really a positive because he's not passing it much in general. He's basically still only good at getting buckets on mediocre efficiency, and that's not very valuable on its own, especially when he doesn't get to the line.

Crazy to say it but Furkan should probably be starting at point. He's a far better shooter and is somehow a better playmaker and defender as well. Give Furkan 30+ minutes between PG/SG/SF in different lineups, and let Maxey play 10-20 off the bench, depending on the matchup and how he's playing. Give Joe all of the extra minutes, especially because he can play next to either of them.

No, you were right that's crazy. It's a legit struggle for Korkmaz to bring the ball up and get any action going, for himself or others. That's simply not viable for large stretches of the game, he doesn't have he handle or athleticism/speed for it.

This isn't a defense of Maxey either. He is what he is, and I've always been confused by the big optimism about him (long way to go and it's hard to get there), but he handles the ball with ease and puts pressure on defensive gaps, and I think we have to live with that if the only other option is Korkmaz. Plus in these RS games drive and kick and endless ball movement is a solid offensive option and I think Maxey's passing weaknesses could be mitigated some if he starts seeing his role more as finding some gaps off pn'r to get that going (rather than playmaking per se).

To be fair, not every team is going to have an on-ball defender the caliber of Lu Dort hounding him. I'd still like to see more of point Korkmaz going forward in games where he's able to get the ball into the half court.

Maxey looks like he doesn't even know what to do half the time when he doesn't have the ball in his hands. Defenders aren't staying anywhere near him at the 3 point line (and Maxey still passes up the open 3s), and last night he kept moving to the dunker's spot and around the rim, completely clogging space for no reason. It's like he was trying to do exactly what Ben would do. Embiid was getting visibly frustrated. Ball movement and spacing are going to be way better with Korkmaz out there if he can manage to stay out there.

I wasn't basing that off last night, think I missed most of the Kokrmaz PG minutes. He was struggling badly in the preseason, got killed against BKN too. I don't think it's controversial to say that he'll be struggling against everyone, it's totally out of his skillset and he'll be up against world-class quickness and lateral movement every night. Huge effort to get basic things going on offense every time down the court is a big drain.

I'd be willing to have him try it out more since Maxey isn't an answer there, but my guess is it's going to be unsustainable for anything more than short stretches. Really hard to not have a PG. (We also need to be permanently ready to attack in transition.)

Having Korkmaz initiate in the halfcourt more seems okay, but there's still the problem that Maxey is a poor off ball guy, and the offense has looked by far its best with drive and kick/penetration surrounding by shooting.