The Sixerfan1976 Draft Thread (Update Pg. 49)

[PhillyFan]

It's just my opinion. I still always listen to what he has to say but a lot of the info he gives just seems real logical IMO. If one of those trades with Indiana or Toronto happens then I will never question the man again. Coming at me like dude is god lol.

Dedicated?

[radrmd216]

Agiaco, the Sixers will have to make free dental work a performance bonus in Aldrich's contract.

[The Guilty Party]

Here's a somewhat funny story about the missing tooth.

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2009/dec/0 ... fine-with/

Also.. apparently the tooth has it's own Facebook page.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cole-Aldr ... 8543261285

[sixers29]

I can't see Sixers trading Thaddeus for a f....ing pick 20 (Alabi??,haha, who is he??). Jazz could offer us their 9 pick and Kirilenko for Thaddeus and Dalembert, or more likely for Iguodala.

Grizzlies are really interested in Lou Williams, so THabeet and a pick for Lou would be a good trade for both parts. Lou doesn't want to be a bench player for the rest of his life, his main goal is to be a starter in the NBA and he knows he won't be a starter in Philly.

[freshie2]

Lou for Thabeet?? Interesting. Obviously you have to assume Thabeet develops somewhat long term, but if you can trade a bench small for potentially a starting center, you have to consider it. Can't see it being reality, but an interesting comment.

[ankle420breaker]

Lou for Thabeet?? Interesting. Obviously you have to assume Thabeet develops somewhat long term, but if you can trade a bench small for potentially a starting center, you have to consider it. Can't see it being reality, but an interesting comment.

I would do it. We clear a little salary while trading small for big. You can also argue that someone like Meeks who doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective would be a better compliment to guys like Turner, Holiday, and Iguodala.

That said, I can't see Memphis giving up on their #2 pick this early for a guy like Lou Williams.

[PhillyRocks1]

I guess I'm the only one that thinks Sixerfan1976 is full of ****? And just reads around on the articles around the web/other forums + logical reasoning? I've been reading this board for the past 4 years but only been posting for a few months, and the stuff he feeds all of you is just logical thinking. If the Raptors really took that trade they are (Please Use More Appropriate Word). Even though I'd absolutely love to get Aldrich, Udoh or Cousins...I doubt that it'll happen by any of those trades he posted. What I do think is that Minnesota would do a trade of Iguodala and a future 1st for the #4. Thad alone would only get us a pick around 18 and up. I also think that if we took Maggette's contract that Golden State would give us the #6 for Thad, Speights and a future first. And what I think would make the most sense is Iguodala straight up to the Clippers for #8. Clippers are taking a small forward anyway, and would be getting one that is already one of the top in the league.

Pretty much of a stretch to come to this conclusion. None of it really adds up. No proof then stfu about it.

[Foshan]

Putting Iggy off limits might be a bad move looking back a few years from now. I would rather try to get a big with a lot of potential (Cousins) then "experiment" with Jrue, Turner, and Iggy.

I'm not sure holding on to Iggy is that big a deal this summer. A lot more teams (I think) have lots of cap space next summer as well, while their are significantly less brilliant players available. I think we'd have a better chance moving Iggy for cap space and a pick next summer. Which is another reason i really want to grab Henry in this draft, because if it looks like Jrue/Henry/Turner will work, I really look to move Iggy for value next summer. Because after next summer we are stuck with him.

[corwin]

You never know about injuries!

[ankle420breaker]

An Iguodala deal could always be executed mid-season if necessary. I think you tend to get better value in mid-season deals when teams are desperate to either clear salary, move pieces to make a playoff run, or unload a player who doesn't fit and/or is unhappy. We had Stoudemire on the table last year for Iguodala. If Dre keeps his numbers up and maintains his value around the league I'm sure we could find a deal centered around him that would appeal to both sides.

[The Guilty Party]

I'm not sure holding on to Iggy is that big a deal this summer. A lot more teams (I think) have lots of cap space next summer as well, while their are significantly less brilliant players available. I think we'd have a better chance moving Iggy for cap space and a pick next summer. Which is another reason i really want to grab Henry in this draft, because if it looks like Jrue/Henry/Turner will work, I really look to move Iggy for value next summer. Because after next summer we are stuck with him.

I doubt Iggy gets moved next summer. For one, I don't think there will be such a thing as "next summer" since the lockout is most likely going to happen and last a while. When the league does resume, the talk is that max contracts may be coming down in total dollar amount. If that's the case, then Iguodala's deal is going to go from being just about right for the type of player he is to a borderline max contract. At that point, his deal will look really bad unless there is some sort of grandfathering clause that reduces the cap hit that contracts signed prior to 7/1/11 are going to have against teams.

[HartfordWhalers]

Which is another reason that it would seem its trade Iggy now or never.
He's a great player, and could definitely still be very productive and in his prime when this teams contending window opens, but if he could get you the 5 pick, I think you have to make that move now and pray Cousins is there. That is the type of trade that transforms a franchise.
Jrue 20
Turner 22 in Oct
Thad 22
Speights 23
Cousins 20
Off the bench Lou 24 in Oct

That franchise has 5 years until its nucleus is in its prime, several players with star potential, and most likely is missing the playoffs and getting a top 10 pick next year because youth makes errors and plays bad d on average.

Edited to swap ages of Thad and Speights.

[KrazySixersD]

i totally agree with the above... if we can use iguodala to land cousins.. we HAVE to do that... jrue, turner, thad, speights, and cousins to build around is AWESOME

[tk76]

Thad 23

FYI, Thad is only 21. He turns 22 next week.

[HartfordWhalers]

Thad 23

FYI, Thad is only 21. He turns 22 next week.

And Speights turns 23 this summer. I put them in the wrong spot.

[radrmd216]

I think Iggy's trade value might be the highest right now for the duration of his contract. I would trade Iggy plus filler if need be for #4 or #5. I think that kind of move would put the Sixers on their way to being like the Blazers or the Thunder.

Collins thinks he can make Iggy much better, but I don't think he can be much better. Also I think Jrue, Turner, and Iggy can work well, but I don't think it's the long term solution. I guess I'll call these things "experimenting" with Iggy. I don't think the "experiment" is worth more than a top 5 pick.

[tk76]

Count me as someone who would like to see Iguodala flipped for Cousins if he slips to #5 or below.

Not sure if you can make that move happen, but I'm on-board if you can swing it. Worst case, Cousins does not work out- and you still have a young talented nucleus in 3 years and no bad contracts.

But would you flip Iguodala for Johnson or Aminu or a lesser player.

[SJSF]

If you are rebuilding like we are. We have to unload Iggy for cap space. I am not an Iggy fan. Especially for what he makes. So if we can find another piece for the future. U have to do it. After the lockout, Iggy would have made about 6-8m a year what he should be making right now. Time to start over.

[radrmd216]

I would try to trade Iggy for #4. Hopefully getting a third team involved so teams get what they want. I would trade Iggy for #5 or Wes Johnson also. I think the Sixers would get a little more or have to give up a little less for #5.

Stefanski seems to have horrible negotiating skills, so most likely not much happens. If the Sixers take back a contract like Nocioni i think a second lottery pick makes up for the money owed. Two lottery picks, especially if the players are Turner and Cousins can bring a lot of excitement to the fan base.

I think a big change is needed and could bring a lot of excitement. I think that big change is trading Iggy in a good deal.

[SJSF]

I think Collins is now running the team. ES is a figure head.