Welcome Richaun Holmes

[Kobblehead]

I don't really think Ilyasova or Sarics playing time has anything to do with Richauns. I would like to see him get a chance to play backup center. Maybe he enables us to trade both of Noel and Jah eventually.

I hasn't, due to Richaun being boxed in as a 5. Mistakenly, IMO.

For one, he never was a good enough rebounder to play the 5.

Secondly, he simply does not have the frame or elite length to play the 5.

Thirdly, he's better as a converging weakside shotblocker than an outright defense anchoring rim protector.

Finally, his offensive game actually fits quite nicely (or can grow quite nicely) at the PF spot. People seem to marginalize him as a lob catcher or rim cutter, but that's dismissive of his ranged jumpshot potential. He shot roughly 40% on mid-range jumpers at Bowling Green. He is currently shooting roughly 42% on deep mid-range jumpers (16 feet and out). And he's shooting 35% on threes this year. It's not like it's super low volume, over 27% of his field goal attempts this year have come from that 16-25 foot range.

[rzzzzz]

when all the dust settles, there's a decent chance that he ends up as Embiid's back-up going into next season.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Yeah I think Holmes eventually has a big role off the bench. It's a shame we've dragged this painful crap out with Okafor and Noel.

[76thBearCub]

I don't really think Ilyasova or Sarics playing time has anything to do with Richauns. I would like to see him get a chance to play backup center. Maybe he enables us to trade both of Noel and Jah eventually.

I hasn't, due to Richaun being boxed in as a 5. Mistakenly, IMO.

For one, he never was a good enough rebounder to play the 5.

Secondly, he simply does not have the frame or elite length to play the 5.

Thirdly, he's better as a converging weakside shotblocker than an outright defense anchoring rim protector.

Finally, his offensive game actually fits quite nicely (or can grow quite nicely) at the PF spot. People seem to marginalize him as a lob catcher or rim cutter, but that's dismissive of his ranged jumpshot potential. He shot roughly 40% on mid-range jumpers at Bowling Green. He is currently shooting roughly 42% on deep mid-range jumpers (16 feet and out). And he's shooting 35% on threes this year. It's not like it's super low volume, over 27% of his field goal attempts this year have come from that 16-25 foot range.

Maybe he can play some 4, hopefully he can. But SImmons is coming back soon too. It's hard to see him getting much of an opportunity as the roster sits right now. I like him though.

[TTP]

Yes and no. Richaun Holmes clearly has potential. However, both last year and this, his DFG% is considerably higher than Jahlil's. He's got to get better and reading offenses, positioning, and keeping/pushing his man away from the front of the rim to begin with.

Back to your side, he could develop this with more playing time.

I say, reward Richaun Holmes for being a good soldier by trading him to the Golden State Warriors who need an interior defender who also fits their run and gun style. They also need cheap contracts for the future, since re-signing Curry and Durant takes all every bit of their cap space.

I know the Warriors like Pat McCaw, and Richaun's inexperience is not ideal for them this year, so I think it would take Richaun Holmes and both of our 2nd round picks this year (DET2nd, GS2nd) to get him.

We get a wing guard who I think would fit perfectly next to Ben. GS gets a young rim protector on a great contract and two rookies for next year when they'll have to stock their bench with minimum salary players. Richaun is rewarded for being a good soldier with a chance at a championship ring!

I love Richaun as much as anyone but I like this idea a lot. McCaw is one of my ideal trade targets and we just don't have minutes for Richaun.

[TTP]

I don't really think Ilyasova or Sarics playing time has anything to do with Richauns. I would like to see him get a chance to play backup center. Maybe he enables us to trade both of Noel and Jah eventually.

I hasn't, due to Richaun being boxed in as a 5. Mistakenly, IMO.

For one, he never was a good enough rebounder to play the 5.

Secondly, he simply does not have the frame or elite length to play the 5.

Thirdly, he's better as a converging weakside shotblocker than an outright defense anchoring rim protector.

Finally, his offensive game actually fits quite nicely (or can grow quite nicely) at the PF spot. People seem to marginalize him as a lob catcher or rim cutter, but that's dismissive of his ranged jumpshot potential. He shot roughly 40% on mid-range jumpers at Bowling Green. He is currently shooting roughly 42% on deep mid-range jumpers (16 feet and out). And he's shooting 35% on threes this year. It's not like it's super low volume, over 27% of his field goal attempts this year have come from that 16-25 foot range.

It's definitely super low volume - that's 32 shots. He shot under 70% from the line in college and is shooting 67% from the line in the pros including 62% this year over 29 shots, roughly the same sample as the 16-25 foot range. I think he has some potential to improve from midrange but it's not a strength of his now.

He's absolutely dominant offensively in the paint though. Okafor, who is supposed to be an elite offensive post player, finishes at 69.4% within 3 feet. Holmes is 73.0%.

[Rastas]

Yes and no. Richaun Holmes clearly has potential. However, both last year and this, his DFG% is considerably higher than Jahlil's. He's got to get better and reading offenses, positioning, and keeping/pushing his man away from the front of the rim to begin with.

Back to your side, he could develop this with more playing time.

I say, reward Richaun Holmes for being a good soldier by trading him to the Golden State Warriors who need an interior defender who also fits their run and gun style. They also need cheap contracts for the future, since re-signing Curry and Durant takes all every bit of their cap space.

I know the Warriors like Pat McCaw, and Richaun's inexperience is not ideal for them this year, so I think it would take Richaun Holmes and both of our 2nd round picks this year (DET2nd, GS2nd) to get him.

We get a wing guard who I think would fit perfectly next to Ben. GS gets a young rim protector on a great contract and two rookies for next year when they'll have to stock their bench with minimum salary players. Richaun is rewarded for being a good soldier with a chance at a championship ring!

I love Richaun as much as anyone but I like this idea a lot. McCaw is one of my ideal trade targets and we just don't have minutes for Richaun.

Nope - no way in hell do we let the Warriors get stronger.

Didn't you know there is a secret league wide blackballing of the Warriors.

[TTP]

Yes and no. Richaun Holmes clearly has potential. However, both last year and this, his DFG% is considerably higher than Jahlil's. He's got to get better and reading offenses, positioning, and keeping/pushing his man away from the front of the rim to begin with.

Back to your side, he could develop this with more playing time.

I say, reward Richaun Holmes for being a good soldier by trading him to the Golden State Warriors who need an interior defender who also fits their run and gun style. They also need cheap contracts for the future, since re-signing Curry and Durant takes all every bit of their cap space.

I know the Warriors like Pat McCaw, and Richaun's inexperience is not ideal for them this year, so I think it would take Richaun Holmes and both of our 2nd round picks this year (DET2nd, GS2nd) to get him.

We get a wing guard who I think would fit perfectly next to Ben. GS gets a young rim protector on a great contract and two rookies for next year when they'll have to stock their bench with minimum salary players. Richaun is rewarded for being a good soldier with a chance at a championship ring!

I love Richaun as much as anyone but I like this idea a lot. McCaw is one of my ideal trade targets and we just don't have minutes for Richaun.

Nope - no way in hell do we let the Warriors get stronger.

Didn't you know there is a secret league wide blackballing of the Warriors.

You're letting them get stronger in the short term but weakening them longer term by taking the better prospect away from them. The short term doesn't impact us.

[youngcrev]

I like Holmes. He's fun to watch. Attacks the rim hard, hustles, blocks shots. He's a great energy big that should be in someone's rotation... but I don't really see who in our rotation that he should be playing over. Once the Jah/Nerlens thing is sorted out, he'd be a nice piece to have around as the guy who plays when Jo can't.

[Rastas]

I love Richaun as much as anyone but I like this idea a lot. McCaw is one of my ideal trade targets and we just don't have minutes for Richaun.

Nope - no way in hell do we let the Warriors get stronger.

Didn't you know there is a secret league wide blackballing of the Warriors.

You're letting them get stronger in the short term but weakening them longer term by taking the better prospect away from them. The short term doesn't impact us.

Long term - they can't afford their current roster . ( as early as next season )

Short term - they only have 1 current weakness - at C . ( this team deserves no help , look else where for possible trades )

[the_process]

Yes and no. Richaun Holmes clearly has potential. However, both last year and this, his DFG% is considerably higher than Jahlil's. He's got to get better and reading offenses, positioning, and keeping/pushing his man away from the front of the rim to begin with.

Back to your side, he could develop this with more playing time.

I say, reward Richaun Holmes for being a good soldier by trading him to the Golden State Warriors who need an interior defender who also fits their run and gun style. They also need cheap contracts for the future, since re-signing Curry and Durant takes all every bit of their cap space.

I know the Warriors like Pat McCaw, and Richaun's inexperience is not ideal for them this year, so I think it would take Richaun Holmes and both of our 2nd round picks this year (DET2nd, GS2nd) to get him.

We get a wing guard who I think would fit perfectly next to Ben. GS gets a young rim protector on a great contract and two rookies for next year when they'll have to stock their bench with minimum salary players. Richaun is rewarded for being a good soldier with a chance at a championship ring!

I love Richaun as much as anyone but I like this idea a lot. McCaw is one of my ideal trade targets and we just don't have minutes for Richaun.

Nope - no way in hell do we let the Warriors get stronger.

Didn't you know there is a secret league wide blackballing of the Warriors.

Who cares if the Dubs win another title? Pat McCaw is going to be Iguodala-esque. You can always use guys like that. And for a backup big that may or may not ever get any burn here? No brainer.

[ET Da Gawd]

Well that's what happens when ersan and Dario play 4/5, why can't Jah/Richaun get that


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[youngcrev]

McCaw has barely played, so I assume this is pre-draft love that he's getting around here? In a draft where we took 2 SGs ahead of him. Not like this a Brogdon type situation where he's proving himself to be a steal. Maybe I'm missing something? (admittedly, I don't know much about McCaw)

[Covington_33]

Not a fan of McCaw and don't really understand the "hype" around here for him. I see some potential but well. He's playing around so much all stars when he's on the court either GSW leads by 30 or he's alongside Curry Green KD André. Hard to judge him knowing that.

I like Richaun. Amazing hustler. Plays with his heart. But until we sort the Noel/Okafor situation, he can't get minutes.

[dorkestra]

I'd rather trade Okafor for Denzel Valentine than trade Holmes for McCaw personally

[dorkestra]

I like Holmes a lot and it is a shame that he has had to ride the pine because we've been twiddling our thumbs on trading away our big man glut.

[Skates]

I like Holmes, primarily as an energy big off the bench. That being said, his sitting a bit and playing in the D-league for a bit as a second year second rounder is hardly a travesty. Dude is getting paid, getting some development time and has two full years left on his contract to find his spot on the team and the league.

[APettyJ]

They need to be ironing out their flaws. It has been said most acquisition of new skills, aka "development", does not happen on the NBA floor but on the practice floor. For players with Holmes' and Okafor's abilities, playing in the D league is more or less like practice, But theyou are live games that feature marginal NBA talent. Should be able to gain experience boxing out, identifying defensive rotations, getting more comfortable shooting the long ball, etc. where the NBA game is not played as crisply and fast.

Looking at it from a different POV, would Okafor have benefited from playing more years of collegiate ball? The D league is of a higher caliber and could absolutely benefit him more than being glued to the Sixers bench for 3 out of 4 games. Can easily be called up when an opportunity for extensive playing time presents itself, like this next week with the Sixers having multiple sets of B2B games.

The major downside would mainly be what possible damage to a player's psyche; I mean, he has been DEMOTED to the D league!

Is that how it should be allowed to be viewed? I'd be in both of their ears reminding them constantly of the goal the organization is reaching out for in having them play down there, that is to focus on developing crucial aspects of their game to enable the Sixers to keep them, much as the Sixers constantly called Saric while he played on Europe. Truthfully one would be traded, even after the Sixers have (hopefully) moved on from Ersan, but they could help their value by expanding their games down there, and then showcasing their new found abilities when the opportunity arises on the big court. As a side bonus, having high-profile draft picKS spend a little time in Delaware would be throwing a juicy bone to the organization down there, which right now has trouble filling the building.

[Foshan]

If Holmes were about to hit free agency then yes this would be a travesty... or at least wasting an asset, but he's not. He should use this as motivation to improve himself.

[spikeslovechild]

This thread is stupid. We don't owe Holmes anything. We'll also have a roster spot available for him when Ersan walks or is traded. Noel walks or is traded. Okafor is likely moved.

Not interested in moving him unless it is a valid trade.