Fantasy Trade Thread

[shawn_hemp]

Except when that pick is #20-30 in 2019....not top 5...

wait are you trying to say the Kings will be a top-10 team in 2019?

I think he's trying to say the Kings win the #1 pick, and the Sixers are a top 10 team.

ok I see what he is saying now. Yeah unfortunately I think the Kings will be just good enough to not get a #1 pick

[spikeslovechild]

Thoughts on this:

Okafor, Stauskas, and Bayless to DET for Reggie Jackson and Stanley Johnson.

Fultz/Jackson/McConnell
Redick/TLC/Korkmaz
Covington/S.Johnson/Anderson
Simmons/Saric/Bolden
Embiid/Holmes/A.Johnson

Nope not until we figure out things shake out next free agency.

Our cap space is too valuable to be eaten by the likes of Jackson who has more negative value then Bayless right now.

Johnson hasn't shown he has NBA talent. I sort of have zero interest in him. I'd rather trade Okafor for a pick then trade for someone like Johnson and pretend there is something there

[the_process]

Thoughts on this:

Okafor, Stauskas, and Bayless to DET for Reggie Jackson and Stanley Johnson.

Fultz/Jackson/McConnell
Redick/TLC/Korkmaz
Covington/S.Johnson/Anderson
Simmons/Saric/Bolden
Embiid/Holmes/A.Johnson

Nope not until we figure out things shake out next free agency.

Our cap space is too valuable to be eaten by the likes of Jackson who has more negative value then Bayless right now.

Johnson hasn't shown he has NBA talent. I sort of have zero interest in him. I'd rather trade Okafor for a pick then trade for someone like Johnson and pretend there is something there

I dont think the Sixers can get a 1st for Okafor. And they already have so many 2nds BC will be selling just as many as he uses.

But I agree now the Sixers remaining cap room should be only for extending Covington. In fact, if they can get another ~5M in room, they can bump Covington to 20M this year (+19.5M), then drop him to 14M next year, 13.5M year 3, and 13M in year 4. Which would be ideal.

To get another 5M in cap room, I'd deal Okafor and Stauskas for some cheap backup wing. With Korkmaz and TLC waiting to take over those backup spots, it can even be an older guy who can fill a spot for just this year.

So my new trade proposition is Okafor and Stauskas to BKN for Sean Kilpatrick.

EDIT: Apparently, BKN doesn't have the cap room for that anymore. So the new new proposal is Okafor and Stauskas to CHI for Valentine and 2022 and 2023 2nds. Guaranteeing the private equity boys a 5.1M check for the next 6 drafts certainly doesn't hurt BC's job security.

[Dan Verze]

BKN trades:

Trevor Booker

PHI trades:

Jerry Bayless
Jahlil Okafor

works cause BKN has 5mil capspace

[the_process]

BKN trades:

Trevor Booker

PHI trades:

Jerry Bayless
Jahlil Okafor

works cause BKN has 5mil capspace

Booker isn't a particularly good fit on the Sixers, though.

Okafor, Bayless, Stauskas, and a 2nd to ATL for Bembry and Plumlee. Follow that up with a 1 year vet min deal for Randy Foye And then finally a 4-62 R&E for Covington. (Structured 17-16-15-14)

Fultz-McConnell-Foye
Redick-TLC-Korkmaz
Covington-Bembry-Anderson
Simmons-Saric-Amir J
Embiid-Holmes-Plumlee

[Chris76]

BKN trades:

Trevor Booker

PHI trades:

Jerry Bayless
Jahlil Okafor

works cause BKN has 5mil capspace

Booker isn't a particularly good fit on the Sixers, though.

Okafor, Bayless, Stauskas, and a 2nd to ATL for Bembry and Plumlee. Follow that up with a 1 year vet min deal for Randy Foye And then finally a 4-62 R&E for Covington. (Structured 17-16-15-14)

Fultz-McConnell-Foye
Redick-TLC-Korkmaz
Covington-Bembry-Anderson
Simmons-Saric-Amir J
Embiid-Holmes-Plumlee

Miles Plumlee career avg is 5pts and 5rebounds. I would rather see what improvements Okafor makes, he at least gives you more scoring, especially if Embiid misses games.

[the_process]

BKN trades:

Trevor Booker

PHI trades:

Jerry Bayless
Jahlil Okafor

works cause BKN has 5mil capspace

Booker isn't a particularly good fit on the Sixers, though.

Okafor, Bayless, Stauskas, and a 2nd to ATL for Bembry and Plumlee. Follow that up with a 1 year vet min deal for Randy Foye And then finally a 4-62 R&E for Covington. (Structured 17-16-15-14)

Fultz-McConnell-Foye
Redick-TLC-Korkmaz
Covington-Bembry-Anderson
Simmons-Saric-Amir J
Embiid-Holmes-Plumlee

Miles Plumlee career avg is 5pts and 5rebounds. I would rather see what improvements Okafor makes, he at least gives you more scoring, especially if Embiid misses games.

Plumlee is a 3rd C/6th big/warm body in case of emergency. He's not good, but dumping his contract adds some value to Atlanta.

Your boy Okafor gives up way more than he scores. I don't think we need to see anymore of him.

[spikeslovechild]

Miles Plumlee contract has negative value. I'm not blowing up potential FA plans in 2018 and 2019 for Bembry.

[the_process]

Miles Plumlee contract has negative value. I'm not blowing up potential FA plans in 2018 and 2019 for Bembry.

That's the beauty part... Sixers still have max space for Summer 2018 since they are dealing Bayless. In Fall 2018 and moving forward, if Embiid is maxed out and Covington is on a substantial deal, they won't have additional max cap space almost no matter what.

[the_process]

Tweaking prior effort.

Okafor, Bayless, Stauskas, and a 2nd for Zipser, J.Grant, and R.Lopez.

Better short term C insurance, better rotation wing prospect, save another million for Covington extension (4-58, structured 17-14-14-14).

Fultz-McConnell-J.Grant
Redick-TLC-Korkmaz
Covington-Zipser-Anderson
Simmons-Saric-A.Johnson
Embiid-R.Lopez-Holmes

[smittybanton]

Solomon Hill Will Miss Part Of The Season
August 27th, 2017 at 12:08pm CST by Arthur Hill
Pelicans small forward Solomon Hill had surgery for a torn hamstring and could miss a significant portion of the season, tweets Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN.

Sitting just $1.473MM below the hard cap, New Orleans has only the minimum salary to offer a potential replacement, posts Bobby Marks on ESPN Now. The team could create more room by waiving Jordan Crawford, who has a $250K guarantee for the upcoming season.

Hill averaged 7.0 points in 80 games [71 as a starter] in his first season with the Pelicans. He spent the first three years of his career in Indiana before signing with New Orleans last summer. He is under contract through 2019/20.

Pelicans have to make the Cousins & Davis & Holiday pairing work. They need Nik Stauskas and Justin Anderson.

[smittybanton]

Frank Jackson for Justin Anderson, straight up.

[76ciology]

Will you trade Holmes for Jaylen Brown?

[the_process]

Will you trade Holmes for Jaylen Brown?

No thanks. I will forgo a Covington R&E for this deal, though:

PHI gets IT, Shumpert, LAL/SAC 1st
BOS gets Kyrie and Holmes
CLE gets McConnell, Anderson, Crowder, Zizic, and BKN 1st

[the_process]

Frank Jackson for Justin Anderson, straight up.

Jackson and Asik for Anderson, Stauskas, and 2018 NOP 1st top 5 protected?

Hell, NO can keep Jackson and I'd still do that.

[smittybanton]

Frank Jackson for Justin Anderson, straight up.

Jackson and Asik for Anderson, Stauskas, and 2018 NOP 1st top 5 protected?

Hell, NO can keep Jackson and I'd still do that.

To take Asik's contract, we'd have to get that pick. Hopefully, they're desperate.

If I'm them, I'd be hoping and praying for Michael Porter or Miles Bridges out of next year's draft.
Either one would set their small forward spot off.

Stauskas fits their needs, I think. There's a question whether he and Boogie want to work together again. Lol.
For some offense, they can sign Shabazz Muhammad to a minimum deal.

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More reports:

With Solomon Hill expected to miss a significant portion of the 2017/18 season, the Pelicans find themselves short-handed at the small forward position, and are expected to explore adding depth at the position. Head coach Alvin Gentry confirmed as much during a Monday appearance on the Black and Blue Report, as Jim Eichenhofer of Pelicans.com details.

“I think we’ve got some players who can fill in, but we’ve really got to go out and find another guy of that size with a little bit of versatility, that can play some (power forward) or maybe even some (shooting guard) for us, depending on who we try to get,” Gentry said. “Right now we’ve got to decide if we’re going to add a guy and how we can do that.”

The Pelicans have an All-Star duo up front in DeMarcus Cousins and Anthony Davis, and will head into the season with a pair of starting-caliber point guards in Jrue Holiday and Rajon Rondo. However, the club’s depth on the wing remains a potential concern, particularly with Hill sidelined for six to eight months with a torn hamstring.

Currently, Quincy Pondexter and Darius Miller are the other viable small forwards on New Orleans’ roster, but Pondexter’s health is still a question mark, and Miller hasn’t played in the NBA since the 2014/15 season. It remains to be seen whether either player can approximate the production provided by Hill, who wasn’t a force on offense last season, but was often matched up against a top scorer on defense.

Wow. Those comment scream for Justin Anderson.

We still need a small guard who's more athletic and can shoot better than TJ Maxx.
They have four guards ahead of Frank Jackson--Rondo, Holiday, Ian Clark, Etwaun Moore.
Convert a contract that expires next year on a player who shouldn't get minutes, for a guy we can groom for four years at the minimum.

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The Pelicans are reportedly shopping Quincy Pondexter.
Knee issues have kept Pondexter off the floor for the past two seasons, and as recently as June 8, Pelicans GM Dell Demps said that Pondexter's status for the 2017-18 season is still "a little uncertain." He's owed roughly $3.8 million next year in what will be the final year of his contract, so if the Pelicans are able to move him, he would likely go to a team seeking to free up cap space for free agency in 2018.

They could sign Shabazz Muhammad. Then give us Frank Jackson and Quincy Poindexter ($4M salary cap relief) for Justin Anderson.

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The odds of them making the playoffs are still not good. I think for NO18(x5), they'd be asking for Covington. He would set that team off! [no bueno for us, imo]

[the_process]

The odds of them making the playoffs are still not good. I think for NO18(x5), they'd be asking for Covington. He would set that team off! [no bueno for us, imo]

NO is in a group with LAC, UTA, DEN, MEM, and POR where 3 of them are in the playoffs and 3 are out. NO is hard capped and only has a couple mill to spend, while also carrying a ton of dead weight contracts. Further, they are expected to deal their 1st and see themselves as a playoff team.

From the Sixers side, I think they will want to maintain cap to get a Covington extension done, so maybe something like this?

CHI gets Omer Asik, Jahlil Okafor, and lotto protected NOP 1st
NOP gets Jerryd Bayless, Nik Stauskas, and Justin Anderson
PHI gets Robin Lopez, Denzel Valentine, Frank Jackson, and Quincy Pondexter

Only adds a mill, so Cov R&E still possible; while getting rid of useless parts, taking a couple flyers on young guys, and upgrading the backup C spot.

[smittybanton]

The odds of them making the playoffs are still not good. I think for NO18(x5), they'd be asking for Covington. He would set that team off! [no bueno for us, imo]

NO is in a group with LAC, UTA, DEN, MEM, and POR where 3 of them are in the playoffs and 3 are out. NO is hard capped and only has a couple mill to spend, while also carrying a ton of dead weight contracts. Further, they are expected to deal their 1st and see themselves as a playoff team.

From the Sixers side, I think they will want to maintain cap to get a Covington extension done, so maybe something like this?

CHI gets Omer Asik, Jahlil Okafor, and lotto protected NOP 1st
NOP gets Jerryd Bayless, Nik Stauskas, and Justin Anderson
PHI gets Robin Lopez, Denzel Valentine, Frank Jackson, and Quincy Pondexter

Only adds a mill, so Cov R&E still possible; while getting rid of useless parts, taking a couple flyers on young guys, and upgrading the backup C spot.

I think Denver and Portland are locks for the playoffs, with LAC, NO & UTAH fighting for the last spot. Giving up on '17 (frank jackson) and 2018 1st at a chance for the eighth seed seems like a lot. Are they over the luxury tax threshold? I've not heard that they are expected to deal their first. Would love to have it.

As for Covington, we don't need cap space to re-sign our own players. We have their Bird Rights. It's up to Josh to decide whether he wants to spend for a winner. Maximizing our space requires signing young free agents to grow with, then going over the cap to re-sign our draft picks. Not what BC has been doing. That's Josh Harris. But I digress.

[the_process]

I think Denver and Portland are locks for the playoffs, with LAC, NO & UTAH fighting for the last spot. Giving up on '17 (frank jackson) and 2018 1st at a chance for the eighth seed seems like a lot. Are they over the luxury tax threshold? I've not heard that they are expected to deal their first. Would love to have it.

As for Covington, we don't need cap space to re-sign our own players. We have their Bird Rights. It's up to Josh to decide whether he wants to spend for a winner. Maximizing our space requires signing young free agents to grow with, then going over the cap to re-sign our draft picks. Not what BC has been doing. That's Josh Harris. But I digress.

Covington is eligible in November for a renegotiation and extension. Meaning you can use existing cap space to bump his salary this year, and then you can lower his salary by 40% the 2nd year, then 7.5% the 3rd and 4th years; i.e. dump Jah for nothing, then give Cov a raise to 20M this year, then drop him to 14M next year, then 13.5M, then 13M. Which works out to a 4-59.5 extension,and helps with cap room going forward.

As far as the West goes; to me Portland is almost certainly out of the playoffs, and so is Denver, unless their defenses both improve drastically. Memphis depends on what contributions Chandler Parsons gives them, and Parsons is less reliable than Embiid. So I see New Orleans as in, and trying to get as high as the 6th seed. Plus their owner is very old and wants to win now. Combine all of that and IMO they are motivated to push their chips in and try for that 1st round upset of San Antonio.

[the_process]

Since the CLE/BOS trade is still probably going through, and CLE will need another PG for the year to split time with Rose since IT is out until March or so... wonder what the Sixers can get from them for TJ?

Any chance CLE does something like Holmes, Anderson, and TJ for Frye, Osman, and 2021 1st? Saves them like 15M in salary and taxes plus gets them guys who can contribute right now, which they need to convince LeBron to stay.