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Re: Brett Brown : End of Days? 

Post#101 » by rzzzzz » Sun May 12, 2019 3:54 pm

Processing76 wrote:The biggest thing for me is that he never got a full season with our "death" lineup. I think he deserves at least one more season. As everyone is saying, if he had gotten blown out game 6, different story.


I don't like how Brett has deployed Embiid and question whether he's the right guy to fully develop Ben. At the end of this season he at least got over his stubbornness and listened to Jimmy. And he's learned to make some in game adjustments, like your average NBA coach. And he is well liked by his players and local reporters. I'm OK with today's game giving him a chance to stay another season. Good luck to him and our talented 7.
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Re: Brett Brown : End of Days? 

Post#102 » by hookshot199 » Sun May 12, 2019 4:04 pm

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youngcrev wrote:
reignfire wrote:Rightfully so.

Even thinking it's OK losing to the Raptors with the roster the Sixers have is worse than clueless.

The Raptors, outside of Leonard, is filled with chokers and scrubs. Almost everyone of their players under perform in the playoffs except Leonard. This is not a team the Sixers should lose to.


3/5 of the Raptors starting lineup wasn't on the team last year... And Siakam wasn't a major component until he broke out this year. Lowry has mostly been a playoff disappointment for them, but he's pretty much the only one that has been a constant in their rotation the past few years.

That team has had the 2nd or 3rd best odds to win the championship pretty much the whole year and you're acting like they are bums... Smh


And those known dummies in Vegas have favored the Raptors throughout. As has almost all national media people. As I said the other day, some people on this board think we are the Globetrotters and ever other team is the Washington Generals and exist only to lose to us.


For a little levity. Wilt, as you know, played for the Globetrotters before joining the old Philly Warriors and the year before he won Rookie of the Year honors and two years before his first MVP season. The footage is bad (I don't have time to search for better) but I believe it shows him in the Globetrotters warmup drill and making a layup. I forget where Marc Stein came down on the Hinkie firing, but I suspect he was part of the herd with Ramona Shelburne (in her case a Lakers groupie) and rest of the herd who supported the palace coup. Anyway, let's thrash out the Brett Brown issue after the game, preferably tomorrow. Go Sixers!

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Re: Brett Brown : End of Days? 

Post#103 » by sixers hoops » Sun May 12, 2019 4:15 pm

gdog2004 wrote:If they would have gotten blown out in game 6 this story may have some legs, but not now.
Another story from another "reporter" that is just speculative garbage. None of these guys know ANYTHING.
It is all make believe click bait.


Marc Stein is the Colangelos’ go-to leak. Perhaps Harris and the remaining front office guys still use him for these purposes.
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Re: Brett Brown : End of Days? 

Post#104 » by James40 » Sun May 12, 2019 5:42 pm

I get that teams need coaches and that BB was hired late himself when the tank started, but would Phoenix hire Monty and the Lakers hire Vogel if they had any info that BB was going to get canned if the Sixers didn’t get past the 2nd round?

Phoenix who knows, much like Vlade in Sacramento if they hired Doug Moe, It wouldn’t shock me, but the Lakers I’m sure have good info around the league.

Then again, the current Lakers management treats Kurt Rambis like he’s Jerry West, so maybe I am wrong.
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Re: Brett Brown : End of Days? 

Post#105 » by PhillyPhilly » Sun May 12, 2019 6:30 pm

The bottom line is the GM and owners made their expectations loud and clear before the playoffs started, and that is to at least reach the Eastern finals. If we lose In four or seven what is the difference? At the end of the day the goal will have still not been reached. If we want a winning culture In Philly then we've got to create a mentality where losing will not be accepted any longer. Browns future is In his own hands tonight, and he has a damn good set of players to insure that this won't be his last game with the Sixers.
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Re: Brett Brown : End of Days? 

Post#106 » by BullyKing » Sun May 12, 2019 6:39 pm

PhillyPhilly wrote:The bottom line is the GM and owners made their expetations loud and clear before the playoffs started, and that is to at least reach the Eastern finals. If we lose In four or seven what is the difference? At the end of the day the goal will have still not been reached. If we want a winning culture In Philly then we've got to create a mentality where losing will not be accepted any longer. Browns future is In his own hands tonight, and he has a damn good set of players to insure that this won't be his last game with the Sixers.


It's almost performance art at how simplistic a view you take of everything. As someone else said, everything is black and white and context means absolutely nothing to you. Losing in seven on the road vs. getting swept makes no difference to you. If Embiid was sick for three games or no games in a series makes no difference to you. I guess there's no point for you to watch the games since the only thing you need to know is the final score.
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Re: Brett Brown : End of Days? 

Post#107 » by PhillyPhilly » Sun May 12, 2019 6:47 pm

BullyKing wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:The bottom line is the GM and owners made their expetations loud and clear before the playoffs started, and that is to at least reach the Eastern finals. If we lose In four or seven what is the difference? At the end of the day the goal will have still not been reached. If we want a winning culture In Philly then we've got to create a mentality where losing will not be accepted any longer. Browns future is In his own hands tonight, and he has a damn good set of players to insure that this won't be his last game with the Sixers.


It's almost performance art at how simplistic a view you take of everything. As someone else said, everything is black and white and context means absolutely nothing to you. Losing in seven on the road vs. getting swept makes no difference to you. If Embiid was sick for three games or no games in a series makes no difference to you. I guess there's no point for you to watch the games since the only thing you need to know is the final score.


All I'm seeing is a bunch of excuses In this post. Golden State just lost two all-stars and were on the road to their biggest rivals and what happened? They got the job done. Brown has no excuses tonight. Either win and continue as coach, or lose and shut the door behind you, it's that simple and I love it that way tbh :D .
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Re: Brett Brown : End of Days? 

Post#108 » by BullyKing » Sun May 12, 2019 6:49 pm

PhillyPhilly wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:The bottom line is the GM and owners made their expetations loud and clear before the playoffs started, and that is to at least reach the Eastern finals. If we lose In four or seven what is the difference? At the end of the day the goal will have still not been reached. If we want a winning culture In Philly then we've got to create a mentality where losing will not be accepted any longer. Browns future is In his own hands tonight, and he has a damn good set of players to insure that this won't be his last game with the Sixers.


It's almost performance art at how simplistic a view you take of everything. As someone else said, everything is black and white and context means absolutely nothing to you. Losing in seven on the road vs. getting swept makes no difference to you. If Embiid was sick for three games or no games in a series makes no difference to you. I guess there's no point for you to watch the games since the only thing you need to know is the final score.


All I'm seeing is a bunch of excuses In this post. Golden State just lost two all-stars and were on the road to their biggest rivals and what happened? They got the job done. Brown has no excuses tonight. Either win and continue as coach, or lose and shut the door behind you, it's that simple and I love it that way tbh :D .


Cool. Since I'm able to look at the final score myself and the only thing you have to offer is a myopic view based on that, no reason for me or anyone to read your opinions from now on. If Brett Brown designs the perfect play to get a player open for a wide open three to win the game at the end and the player misses, good to know that's on Brett.
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Re: Brett Brown : End of Days? 

Post#109 » by PhillyPhilly » Sun May 12, 2019 7:00 pm

BullyKing wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
It's almost performance art at how simplistic a view you take of everything. As someone else said, everything is black and white and context means absolutely nothing to you. Losing in seven on the road vs. getting swept makes no difference to you. If Embiid was sick for three games or no games in a series makes no difference to you. I guess there's no point for you to watch the games since the only thing you need to know is the final score.


All I'm seeing is a bunch of excuses In this post. Golden State just lost two all-stars and were on the road to their biggest rivals and what happened? They got the job done. Brown has no excuses tonight. Either win and continue as coach, or lose and shut the door behind you, it's that simple and I love it that way tbh :D .


Cool. Since I'm able to look at the final score myself and the only thing you have to offer is a myopic view based on that, no reason for me or anyone to read your opinions from now on. If Brett Brown designs the perfect play to get a player open for a wide open three to win the game at the end and the player misses, good to know that's on Brett.


This is a results business my friend. And the demands from the owners have been loud and clear. THEY are the ones putting Brett In this position, not me. You can talk about "plays" and "players being sick" etc etc but the bottom line will be DID YOU WIN? Pardon me for thinking that that is the be all and end all for a coach. I obviously have to show more compassion for circumstances beyond my control.
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Re: Brett Brown : End of Days? 

Post#110 » by BullyKing » Sun May 12, 2019 7:03 pm

PhillyPhilly wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:
All I'm seeing is a bunch of excuses In this post. Golden State just lost two all-stars and were on the road to their biggest rivals and what happened? They got the job done. Brown has no excuses tonight. Either win and continue as coach, or lose and shut the door behind you, it's that simple and I love it that way tbh :D .


Cool. Since I'm able to look at the final score myself and the only thing you have to offer is a myopic view based on that, no reason for me or anyone to read your opinions from now on. If Brett Brown designs the perfect play to get a player open for a wide open three to win the game at the end and the player misses, good to know that's on Brett.


This is a results business my friend. And the demands from the owners have been loud and clear. THEY are the ones putting Brett In this position, not me. You can talk about "plays" and "players being sick" etc etc but the bottom line will be DID YOU WIN? Pardon me for thinking that that is the be all and end all for a coach. I obviously have to show more compassion for circumstances beyond my control.


blah blah blah
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the plan is to get as good as quickly as possible....I fully believe we could have been a borderline playoff team last year by adding young veterans....using or draft picks and cap space.....can I specifically tell you who? no.
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Re: Brett Brown : End of Days? 

Post#111 » by PhillyPhilly » Sun May 12, 2019 7:14 pm

BullyKing wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
Cool. Since I'm able to look at the final score myself and the only thing you have to offer is a myopic view based on that, no reason for me or anyone to read your opinions from now on. If Brett Brown designs the perfect play to get a player open for a wide open three to win the game at the end and the player misses, good to know that's on Brett.


This is a results business my friend. And the demands from the owners have been loud and clear. THEY are the ones putting Brett In this position, not me. You can talk about "plays" and "players being sick" etc etc but the bottom line will be DID YOU WIN? Pardon me for thinking that that is the be all and end all for a coach. I obviously have to show more compassion for circumstances beyond my control.


blah blah blah


Lol don't take it personal BK, it's Ok to disagree buddy :D . I'm just not personally invested In the coaches. Either they get the job done or they don't. Call it simplistic if you want but I want to see this team win a championship, that's all there is to it.
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Re: Brett Brown : End of Days? 

Post#112 » by James40 » Sun May 12, 2019 7:16 pm

PhillyPhilly wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:
This is a results business my friend. And the demands from the owners have been loud and clear. THEY are the ones putting Brett In this position, not me. You can talk about "plays" and "players being sick" etc etc but the bottom line will be DID YOU WIN? Pardon me for thinking that that is the be all and end all for a coach. I obviously have to show more compassion for circumstances beyond my control.


blah blah blah


Lol don't take it personal BK, it's Ok to disagree buddy :D . I'm just not personally invested In the coaches. Either they get the job done or they don't. Call it simplistic if you want but I want to see this team win a championship, that's all there is to it.


What coach do you have in mind?
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Re: Brett Brown : End of Days? 

Post#113 » by PhillyPhilly » Sun May 12, 2019 7:21 pm

James40 wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
blah blah blah


Lol don't take it personal BK, it's Ok to disagree buddy :D . I'm just not personally invested In the coaches. Either they get the job done or they don't. Call it simplistic if you want but I want to see this team win a championship, that's all there is to it.


What coach do you have in mind?


Ty Lue or Jarron Collins
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Re: Brett Brown : End of Days? 

Post#114 » by XtremeDunkz » Sun May 12, 2019 7:22 pm

PhillyPhilly wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:
This is a results business my friend. And the demands from the owners have been loud and clear. THEY are the ones putting Brett In this position, not me. You can talk about "plays" and "players being sick" etc etc but the bottom line will be DID YOU WIN? Pardon me for thinking that that is the be all and end all for a coach. I obviously have to show more compassion for circumstances beyond my control.


blah blah blah


Lol don't take it personal BK, it's Ok to disagree buddy :D . I'm just not personally invested In the coaches. Either they get the job done or they don't. Call it simplistic if you want but I want to see this team win a championship, that's all there is to it.


This is like if you worked at a job for 5 years using the same computer systems every single day, and then one day your boss changed all the systems and told you to perfect them in 2 months or you're fired. Doesnt seem very fair does it?
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Re: Brett Brown : End of Days? 

Post#115 » by PhillyPhilly » Sun May 12, 2019 7:35 pm

XtremeDunkz wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
blah blah blah


Lol don't take it personal BK, it's Ok to disagree buddy :D . I'm just not personally invested In the coaches. Either they get the job done or they don't. Call it simplistic if you want but I want to see this team win a championship, that's all there is to it.


This is like if you worked at a job for 5 years using the same computer systems every single day, and then one day your boss changed all the systems and told you to perfect them in 2 months or you're fired. Doesnt seem very fair does it?


If the new systems are amongst the very best in the whole world then If i can't use them to an acceptable standard then I'd expect my bosses to get someone who can tbh :D .
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Re: Brett Brown : End of Days? 

Post#116 » by James40 » Sun May 12, 2019 8:04 pm

PhillyPhilly wrote:
James40 wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:
Lol don't take it personal BK, it's Ok to disagree buddy :D . I'm just not personally invested In the coaches. Either they get the job done or they don't. Call it simplistic if you want but I want to see this team win a championship, that's all there is to it.


What coach do you have in mind?


Ty Lue or Jarron Collins


I’m not against either one, I wouldn’t be upset with Joerger.

Both of whom you mentioned have had the luxury of coaching one of the best players ever, and the other, the best shooter ever. Doesn’t mean they wouldn’t succeed here though.

If Brown does go, I’d like to see someone in here that gets Embiid to take his conditioning seriously ( like losing 10-15lbs) and develop Ben Simmons.

As for Simmons, to be fair the player has to want to be better, like Giannis.
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Re: Brett Brown : End of Days? 

Post#117 » by Mik317 » Sun May 12, 2019 8:08 pm

Yeah the next guy better have a plan for our two guys. Because I imagine they both love Brett. That’s gonna be the key
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Re: Brett Brown : End of Days? 

Post#118 » by James40 » Sun May 12, 2019 8:33 pm

Mik317 wrote:Yeah the next guy better have a plan for our two guys. Because I imagine they both love Brett. That’s gonna be the key


My first question for a new coach if I’m Sixers management is, “How are you winning 58-60 games this year with Joel not playing more than 30 minutes a night and no more than two back to backs?”
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Re: Brett Brown : End of Days? 

Post#119 » by SixthStreet » Sun May 12, 2019 10:09 pm

If Brown is fired, it will be the final piece of evidence that ownership has no clue whatsoever of what they are doing. Having two major roster re-configurations in season, the first of which was a star level player but not a roster fit, and expecting the team to play like one that has been together through training camp (Raptors, Bucks) or multiple seasons (all other contenders) is completely asinine.

TBH, I'll be more upset about Brown being fired than Hinkie being ousted.
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Re: Brett Brown : End of Days? 

Post#120 » by AirP. » Sun May 12, 2019 10:33 pm

Sixerscan wrote:Either way, acting like coaching decisions would have made up the 7 game difference (plus tiebreaker) in the 2nd seed and 3rd seed is the sort of needlessly dramatic BS that I would hope a competent ownership group could avoid. But maybe they don't get it and we can just get Thibs who will coach every game like it's the last one and we can brag about how we were the 3 seed with 2 months to go in the regular season.

Maybe, especially if you overlook that the #1 option went down later in the season and then isn't 100% for the playoffs. I'll tell you this, Thibodeau is a way better coach then Brown, Minnesota did that with Wiggins(who was backed by the owner) playing rogue and taking the most FGA on the roster while being the least efficient regular rotation player.

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