Welcome Isaiah Joe

[Kobblehead]

So the goal for this kid is to make a jump on defense and be a good 3&D guy right?

Yes. Which is possible, given his freshman year at Arkansas. Some people say he was hurt as a sophomore and that's why he fell off defensively. Obviously he'll need to gain weight so he can take off that tactical vest that he wears under his jersey to seem less-skinny.

[Negrodamus]

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I think Danny Green and Thybulle could learn something from Joe: if you're not a great ball handler, stop trying to make things happen by putting the ball on the floor. Joe took 8 shots and made 4, all 8 were threes. That's literally my only offensive expectation of him. If it's not there, pass it.

He also played smart defense against Herro (even though he got called for a weak foul on a three attempt by Straus).

[TTP]

Seen more from this cat in a few games than we did from Kork in years

Korkmaz was solid last year and is a useful rotation player. Joe has looked promising as well. I expect Furkan will probably sign elsewhere after the season but we should consider it a luxury to have both for cheap now.

[sixers hoops]

The Isaiah Joe's of the world are exactly why all the crying over trading Landry Shamet always made zero sense to me. Also why you don't throw away lottery picks on shooting specialists. You can get a good shooting specialist in the draft in the late 20's or 2nd round, every year if your GM is doing his job and properly scouting college basketball.

Joe is going to be a better player than Aaron Nesmith, because he can put the ball on the floor, has body control and uses his left hand. Unlike Nesmith, who the Celtics pissed away a lottery pick on in the draft.

I think the outrage was more that Shamet was a good piece in a trade where we got robbed. If the trade were just Shamet and salary filler for Tobias, I don’t think we would hear as much scrutinizing of the trade and giving up Shamet. But Shamet and two firsts for a half season of Tobias seemed like we didn’t get much value for Shamet.

You have to give Brand credit if Joe works out. It was already leaked that Brand promised Joe before we even hired Morey.

[sixers hoops]

Seen more from this cat in a few games than we did from Kork in years

Korkmaz was solid last year and is a useful rotation player. Joe has looked promising as well. I expect Furkan will probably sign elsewhere after the season but we should consider it a luxury to have both for cheap now.

For a team desperate for shooting, Kork was a great sign cheap option. However, you start getting real snipers that are playable, like Joe, Shake, Curry, Danny Green (looking Shaky this year), and Kork doesn’t have much of a role.

[blargh]

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I think Danny Green and Thybulle could learn something from Joe: if you're not a great ball handler, stop trying to make things happen by putting the ball on the floor. Joe took 8 shots and made 4, all 8 were threes. That's literally my only offensive expectation of him. If it's not there, pass it.

He also played smart defense against Herro (even though he got called for a weak foul on a three attempt by Straus).

Green makes stuff happen out there that goes under the radar, and compensates for his more visible boneheaded plays. He is shifting along the perimeter to open space, he’s directing others on when to cut. He’s not a good playmaker by any means, but he’s super experienced in understanding how a pace and space offense is supposed to work. That’s why he’s still valuable even when the shot isn’t falling, unlike Joe or Thybulle at this point.

Korkmaz also brings a little more playmaking than Joe and Thybulle at this point, and i wouldn’t be surprised to see him reclaim minutes from Joe when he gets back.

[Negrodamus]

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I think Danny Green and Thybulle could learn something from Joe: if you're not a great ball handler, stop trying to make things happen by putting the ball on the floor. Joe took 8 shots and made 4, all 8 were threes. That's literally my only offensive expectation of him. If it's not there, pass it.

He also played smart defense against Herro (even though he got called for a weak foul on a three attempt by Straus).

Green makes stuff happen out there that goes under the radar, and compensates for his more visible boneheaded plays. He is shifting along the perimeter to open space, he’s directing others on when to cut. He’s not a good playmaker by any means, but he’s super experienced in understanding how a pace and space offense is supposed to work. That’s why he’s still valuable even when the shot isn’t falling, unlike Joe or Thybulle at this point.

Korkmaz also brings a little more playmaking than Joe and Thybulle at this point, and i wouldn’t be surprised to see him reclaim minutes from Joe when he gets back.

Green is definitely better at making a play than those two, but he still does too many boneheaded plays. And those boneheaded plays usually occur when he's handling the ball longer than 2 dribbles. If he's not attack a close out or dribbling to make an extra pass, he should be looking for Ben, Shake, Seth, or Tyrese.

[HotelVitale]

Seen more from this cat in a few games than we did from Kork in years

Korkmaz was solid last year and is a useful rotation player. Joe has looked promising as well. I expect Furkan will probably sign elsewhere after the season but we should consider it a luxury to have both for cheap now.

? Korkmaz has been ridiculous for us at times in the past couple years. You already forget those games last year where he totally carried us through stretches of offensive drought? Had a lot of good games including some 30+ pt ones that were definitely the difference between winning and losing that night.

Not saying I love Kork or need him on the team but, no, Isaiah Joe hasn't shown more than him in a few games of him standing around and firing up open 3s.

[76ciology]

Fun fact:
BKref registers 82% of his minutes (8 games at 152 mins) at the PG position.

[ivysixer2000]

Very interested to see what Joe can do with his added playing time.

You give up some playmaking and experience with Furkan, but Joe is just a lil better shooter and defender IMO. Will be harder to deal Furkan if he is riding the pine though.

Time will tell.

[bball4life]

Very interested to see what Joe can do with his added playing time.

You give up some playmaking and experience with Furkan, but Joe is just a lil better shooter and defender IMO. Will be harder to deal Furkan if he is riding the pine though.

Time will tell.

I think I've seen all I need to see on defense to know Joe is already a far superior on ball defender to Furk. Way too early to know if he's going to be a better 3p shooter but his form looks good and he's at league average for a very small sample size to this point.

Furk hasn't even had one of his unconscious games this year and barely shooting 30% from three overall. Starting to think last year's performance was the aberration.

[Kobblehead]

Very interested to see what Joe can do with his added playing time.

You give up some playmaking and experience with Furkan, but Joe is just a lil better shooter and defender IMO. Will be harder to deal Furkan if he is riding the pine though.

Time will tell.

Furkan sucks defensively, but at least he has functional physicality at 200 pounds. Joe is unplayable at 165 pounds. Especially come playoff time. It will be like Shake Milton x5.

[blargh]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/sixers-happy-isaiah-joe-advanced-160723496.html

Joe looks like he’s getting in the weight room a little bit.

[blargh]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/sixers-happy-isaiah-joe-advanced-160723496.html

Joe looks like he’s getting in the weight room a little bit.

Man, I was kinda joking about this, but Joe was not:

https://www.nba.com/sixers/good-vibes-only

[TTP]

Between Summer League and preseason, I'm not sure anyone's stock has risen as much as Isaiah Joe's has, at least in my eyes. I thought it would be difficult for him to end up in the rotation to start the season, but he's making a great case for it.

I'm also curious about Joe's long-term potential in the two man game with Embiid. He's still got a lot to learn to be as great at off-ball movement as Redick was, but we've seen enough glimpses of Joe's playmaking and ability to put the ball on the floor to bring things to the table that Redick couldn't. Joe's almost certainly a better defender than Redick was as well. Maybe it won't be this year, but Joe has to be the most likely eventual in house replacement for the Curry role.

[Skates]

Joe becoming prime age Danny Green would be pretty awesome and I think he can do it. Green was a key cog to championship teams and contenders for a long time, exactly what you expected/wanted from a high end 3&D guy and is still decent in his later years. Korkmaz is more your energy, burst scorer and Matisse is the Andre Roberson of his generation, but even better defensively. Thybulle developing offensively is always possible to become a starter, Korkmaz is a classic bench guy, Joe might pass them both out, but all is still hopes, potential and speculation for the moment.

[SixthStreet]

I think Joe's narrow frame is going to limit him ultimately but he's looked really good. He competes defensively and has more awareness on that end compared to someone like Milton. He's a cross between Curry and Redick offensively. He isn't going to fly off down screens and curls a la Redick and he's not going to put the ball on the floor as much as Curry but he has a little bit of the quick trigger high volume shooting of Redick and some playmaking chops like Curry. He can also give you some off dribble shooting that neither one of them offered.

I thought he was a wasted pick so I'm pleasantly surprised at his development.

[ivysixer2000]

I'm excited to see Joe develop here as I've seen most of his career.

He's a decent defender, looks healthy, with a shot that is money...all he needs is to be thrown in the deep water and see if he can swim. He is the type of guy that will hang around the league for a decade, maybe not a star, but on a championship team....hope thats in Philly.

[TTP]

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