Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6

[BullyKing]

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3 picks and swaps from Portland? Why? That goes against what has been reported as Morey's agenda behind the trade.

My guess is Morey's logic is this. Blazers are only trading Dame if he demands out but if he does, they will want to blow it up and rebuild. If that's the case, Sixers are a really attractive destination for Dame because the last thing a rebuilding team needs is for its own picks to be owed. So the Sixers can start that package by giving Portland all its picks back to start the rebuild.

[Sixerscan]

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3 picks and swaps from Portland? Why? That goes against what has been reported as Morey's agenda behind the trade.

And CJ. Doesn’t seem that different from what they apparently asked the Warriors for? Generally whenever a team has tried to trade for Ben without offering a star it seems like Morey has asked for a Harden-type package of picks. Being able to flip them back for Lillard is a nice potential bonus here as Bully said.

[ProcessDoctor]

Morey's right. That's exactly what I would ask for in return from Portland - CJ/RoCo/3 picks/3 swaps for Simmons/Korkmaz. I know RoCo wasn't mentioned, but he'd haven't to be included for me.


McCollum/Maxey/Springer
Green/Curry/Milton
Covington/Thybulle/Joe
Harris/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey


You can still go out and get yourself another star with those picks, even if it's not Dame.

[Mik317]

Morey is nuts lol

[Negrodamus]

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3 picks and swaps from Portland? Why? That goes against what has been reported as Morey's agenda behind the trade.

And CJ. Doesn’t seem that different from what they apparently asked the Warriors for? Generally whenever a team has tried to trade for Ben without offering a star it seems like Morey has asked for a Harden-type package of picks. Being able to flip them back for Lillard is a nice potential bonus here as Bully said.

Ah yes, that gap between talking about CJ and the picks, along with not having coffee yet, messed with my comprehension.

[kriss73]

Two picks and 1 swaps are for having a 25years old All Star under control for the next 4 years and 1 pick and 2 swaps are due for dumping 32 yrs old CJ and to keep Dame happy.

It seems fair to me.

[Iverson Armband]

Morey's right. That's exactly what I would ask for in return from Portland - CJ/RoCo/3 picks/3 swaps for Simmons/Korkmaz. I know RoCo wasn't mentioned, but he'd haven't to be included for me.


McCollum/Maxey/Springer
Green/Curry/Milton
Covington/Thybulle/Joe
Harris/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey


You can still go out and get yourself another star with those picks, even if it's not Dame.

Hell why don’t we squeeze them for Norm Powell too while we’re at it? We can throw in Grant Riller and his meniscus to even things out a bit.

Thank god you aren’t GM

[ProcessDoctor]

Morey's right. That's exactly what I would ask for in return from Portland - CJ/RoCo/3 picks/3 swaps for Simmons/Korkmaz. I know RoCo wasn't mentioned, but he'd haven't to be included for me.


McCollum/Maxey/Springer
Green/Curry/Milton
Covington/Thybulle/Joe
Harris/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey


You can still go out and get yourself another star with those picks, even if it's not Dame.

Hell why don’t we squeeze them for Norm Powell too while we’re at it? We can throw in Grant Riller and his meniscus to even things out a bit.

Thank god you aren’t GM

This is on par with what Moreys asking for. Therefore, are you upset Morey is our GM?

[spikeslovechild]

Two picks and 1 swaps are for having a 25years old All Star under control for the next 4 years and 1 pick and 2 swaps are due for dumping 32 yrs old CJ and to keep Dame happy.

It seems fair to me.

CJ to me is not worth a whole lot.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-teams-view-cj-mccollums-100-million-contract-as-slightly-negative-value-for-trade-purposes-per-report/

People need to look at his contract and realize he is already declining. Portland picks are going to be at the end of the 1st round and barely worth anything. Sorry but I wouldn't be interested.

If that is an actual offer then Portland did us a favor by declining it

[kriss73]

Two picks and 1 swaps are for having a 25years old All Star under control for the next 4 years and 1 pick and 2 swaps are due for dumping 32 yrs old CJ and to keep Dame happy.

It seems fair to me.

CJ to me is not worth a whole lot.

People need to look at his contract and realize he is already declining. Portland picks are going to be at the end of the 1st round and barely worth anything. Sorry but I wouldn't be interested.

If that is an actual offer then Portland did us a favor by declining it

That's was my point: the idea of CJ being a plus asset is a little overrated more than the idea that Simmons is a minus asset.

If I'm Morey I wait for a chance for Dame: Simmons is under control for 4 years and he cannot pull a AD.
On the other side if I'm Dame, I prefer to play with Joel than with Ben.

So either the Blazers trade for Joel (LOL) or we trade for Dame.
If Dame prefers playing for another team....well there will be other trades to be done down the line.

No need to rush for DAR or Brogdon or Hield or Lavert

[kriss73]

"If he was ever to report, it would certainly be with short-term intentions," said Charania.

Soooooo....money starts talking apparently

[spikeslovechild]

"If he was ever to report, it would certainly be with short-term intentions," said Charania.

Soooooo....money starts talking apparently

If he tries to show and dog it just suspend him indefinitely for conduct detrimental to the the team without pay.

Simmons isn't getting any free lunches and the days the Sixers should be coddling him are over.

[Stanford]

he is already declining.

He had the best season of his career last year

[Eyeamok]

"If he was ever to report, it would certainly be with short-term intentions," said Charania.

Soooooo....money starts talking apparently

Basically if we can get him into camp and start talking to him. Get him from behind his fortress, his mind can be changed until we find the right deal.

[GutUNC]

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3 picks and swaps from Portland? Why? That goes against what has been reported as Morey's agenda behind the trade.

Not really. It supports the idea that he sees CLM and his contract as a boat anchor but he's willing to take it aboard for a massive pick haul.

I completely understand why Portland wouldn't do that, but it follows the logic of Morey having no interest in CJM except as a salary ballast.

[Rastas]

Two picks and 1 swaps are for having a 25years old All Star under control for the next 4 years and 1 pick and 2 swaps are due for dumping 32 yrs old CJ and to keep Dame happy.

It seems fair to me.

CJ to me is not worth a whole lot.

People need to look at his contract and realize he is already declining. Portland picks are going to be at the end of the 1st round and barely worth anything. Sorry but I wouldn't be interested.

If that is an actual offer then Portland did us a favor by declining it

That's was my point: the idea of CJ being a plus asset is a little overrated more than the idea that Simmons is a minus asset.

If I'm Morey I wait for a chance for Dame: Simmons is under control for 4 years and he cannot pull a AD.
On the other side if I'm Dame, I prefer to play with Joel than with Ben.

So either the Blazers trade for Joel (LOL) or we trade for Dame.
If Dame prefers playing for another team....well there will be other trades to be done down the line.

No need to rush for DAR or Brogdon or Hield or Lavert

Oh dear , some of you guy's haven't figured it out yet have you.
Dame and probably most other Alpha no1 options have no intention at all of pairing with the "I'm going to Dominate" 40% usage Center here in Philly - however teaming with an Ultra Defensive and Pass 1st Low usage Playmaker is a lot more appealing.
Remember Dame Liked the photoshop of Ben in a Blazers uniform.

[kriss73]

CJ to me is not worth a whole lot.

People need to look at his contract and realize he is already declining. Portland picks are going to be at the end of the 1st round and barely worth anything. Sorry but I wouldn't be interested.

If that is an actual offer then Portland did us a favor by declining it

That's was my point: the idea of CJ being a plus asset is a little overrated more than the idea that Simmons is a minus asset.

If I'm Morey I wait for a chance for Dame: Simmons is under control for 4 years and he cannot pull a AD.
On the other side if I'm Dame, I prefer to play with Joel than with Ben.

So either the Blazers trade for Joel (LOL) or we trade for Dame.
If Dame prefers playing for another team....well there will be other trades to be done down the line.

No need to rush for DAR or Brogdon or Hield or Lavert

Oh dear , some of you guy's haven't figured it out yet have you.
Dame and probably most other Alpha no1 options have no intention at all of pairing with the "I'm going to Dominate" 40% usage Center here in Philly - however teaming with an Ultra Defensive and Pass 1st Low usage Playmaker is a lot more appealing.
Remember Dame Liked the photoshop of Ben in a Blazers uniform.

Low usage Playmaker? Are we talking about the same Ben Simmons?

If Ben doesn't have the ball in his hand , is he useful for what?
Masonry?

[bball4life]

Oh dear , some of you guy's haven't figured it out yet have you.
Dame and probably most other Alpha no1 options have no intention at all of pairing with the "I'm going to Dominate" 40% usage Center here in Philly - however teaming with an Ultra Defensive and Pass 1st Low usage Playmaker is a lot more appealing.
Remember Dame Liked the photoshop of Ben in a Blazers uniform.

Yeah, I'm sure he would love being constantly double teamed every time he touched the ball because the other team rightfully ignores Ben as a complete non threat to score.

[Rastas]

"If he was ever to report, it would certainly be with short-term intentions," said Charania.

Soooooo....money starts talking apparently

If he tries to show and dog it just suspend him indefinitely for conduct detrimental to the the team without pay.

Simmons isn't getting any free lunches and the days the Sixers should be coddling him are over.

Ben will be back within a month to collect those Monstrous Cheques and Blake Griffin it at best.
Or look out for a Doctors note or sudden injury.

[Skates]

CJ is the guard version of Tobias and more likely to decline quickly as a small, quick guard.