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Re: dedmond or noel on the buyout 

Post#101 » by Murray_17 » Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:08 pm

Outside of rebounding i don't see what was the point of trying to get Love, Niang is shooting better from 3 than him on better volume.

Not to mention the part where we need to cout someone to bring him in.

He can go to the Heat, whatever.
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Post#102 » by Skates » Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:35 pm

Love was more name than need. Give me a guard or wing that can play both ends with a bit of athleticism.
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Post#103 » by Kobblehead » Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:33 pm

Kevin Love is a 3 tool player, of course he would have filled a need.

He's an elite rebounder, a good playmaker, and a good shooter who hits at volume.
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Post#104 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:56 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Kevin Love is a 3 tool player, of course he would have filled a need.

He's an elite rebounder, a good playmaker, and a good shooter who hits at volume.


Hoping we offer him the MLE this summer unless he looks absolutely terrible in Miami.
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Re: dedmond or noel on the buyout 

Post#105 » by Murray_17 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:29 am

Kobblehead wrote:Kevin Love is a 3 tool player, of course he would have filled a need.

He's an elite rebounder, a good playmaker, and a good shooter who hits at volume.



Again, Niang shots at better percentage and volume.

Also i don't see how is he a good playmaker
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Post#106 » by 76ciology » Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:34 pm



Will Embiid and Harden be OK playing off the bench with D12-McClung starting?
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Re: dedmond or noel on the buyout 

Post#107 » by ProcessDoctor » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:27 am

Murray_17 wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Kevin Love is a 3 tool player, of course he would have filled a need.

He's an elite rebounder, a good playmaker, and a good shooter who hits at volume.



Again, Niang shots at better percentage and volume.

Also i don't see how is he a good playmaker


Niang also rebounds at half the rate. His shooting is awesome, but he's also a big reason why we're such a poor rebounding team.
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Re: dedmond or noel on the buyout 

Post#108 » by Kobblehead » Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:45 am

Murray_17 wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Kevin Love is a 3 tool player, of course he would have filled a need.

He's an elite rebounder, a good playmaker, and a good shooter who hits at volume.



Again, Niang shots at better percentage and volume.

Also i don't see how is he a good playmaker

Niang can't rebound. And he doesn't pass the ball at the NBA level. He's a 1 tool player. Love is a 3 tool player.
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Re: dedmond or noel on the buyout 

Post#109 » by SixthStreet » Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:44 pm

Tony Bradley got waived by the Bulls. If Dedmon is washed Bradley would be better but if Dedmon has anything left he's a better option.
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Post#110 » by mhunt » Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:53 pm

Will Barton was just bought out as well.
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Re: dedmond or noel on the buyout 

Post#111 » by Zumramania » Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:08 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
Murray_17 wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Kevin Love is a 3 tool player, of course he would have filled a need.

He's an elite rebounder, a good playmaker, and a good shooter who hits at volume.



Again, Niang shots at better percentage and volume.

Also i don't see how is he a good playmaker


Niang also rebounds at half the rate. His shooting is awesome, but he's also a big reason why we're such a poor rebounding team.


Unfortunately I wouldn't agree that even his shooting is awesome. In the regular season it is, but against Miami he shot 4 / 25 from the three point range, which is an abysmal 16%. We can't get far with such bad playoff performers.
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Re: dedmond or noel on the buyout 

Post#112 » by Skates » Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:19 pm

Niang is not playable in the playoffs against more athletic opponents. He helps in regular season games even though he is streaky as many shooters are, but unless you hide him in a lineup that is all high level defense around him, he will be exposed on both ends. Danuel House was supposed to be our more athletic guy that can hit a shot off the bench at the 3/4 spot, but he has been a washout so far. Barton or Stanley Johnson might fit as that more athletic wing option.
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Re: dedmond or noel on the buyout 

Post#113 » by SixthStreet » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:28 pm

Niang will be in the playoff rotation because his defense has markedly improved. But I also share the concerns the shooting won’t translate, especially on the road.
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Post#114 » by M2J » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:01 am

SixthStreet wrote:Niang will be in the playoff rotation because his defense has markedly improved. But I also share the concerns the shooting won’t translate, especially on the road.


I agree. The guy competes defensively, and credit needs to go out to those that gave him a chance to get into the rotation when he was not supposed to be when this roster was put together, except for a shooting option situationally. But, he's competing and using his physicality and learning to be in the right place for team defense... where he lacks athleticism. His role may be diminished in the playoffs, and if the shooting isn't there in the first half, feel free to sit him in the 2nd.
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Re: dedmond or noel on the buyout 

Post#115 » by Murray_17 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:42 am

It looks like Morey is going to the Ricky today so i think we're gonna get some answers about this stuff
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Post#116 » by Murray_17 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:15 am

Murray_17 wrote:It looks like Morey is going to the Ricky today so i think we're gonna get some answers about this stuff


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Re: dedmond or noel on the buyout 

Post#117 » by phillynative » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:20 pm

Footnotes would be highly appreciated my guys
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Post#118 » by Stanford » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:23 pm

phillynative wrote:Footnotes would be highly appreciated my guys


When asked about backup center minutes, Morey said they're comfortable with the 3 guys they have:

PJ
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Desmond

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Post#119 » by eyeatoma » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:11 pm

Stanford wrote:
phillynative wrote:Footnotes would be highly appreciated my guys


When asked about backup center minutes, Morey said they're comfortable with the 3 guys they have:

PJ
Reed
Desmond

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Re: dedmond or noel on the buyout 

Post#120 » by Murray_17 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:40 pm

He also agrees with assessments of irregularity and says is the biggest issue the team faces, he says that this stretch is gonna work to evaluate that aspect. He touts our record against elite teams, so he thinks march is gonna be the crucial month to evaluate where we stands in our odds.

Doubling early in the clock and leaving shooters open, he says, is something that happens because players are freelancing and doc is trying to address it, is not part of the scheme. At the same time, they try to ecourage players to go by instinct sometimes so the defense doesn't get too schematic.

He also agrees with our issues rebounding, is part of what McDaniels addresses, he says that Melton looks like an elite rebounder with us because of it.(lol)

We're gonna try to resign McDaniels in the offseason too.

McClung was already being discussed as a two-way contract before getting the dunk contest invitation.

Springer is likely gonna be a rotation player next season, Doc is pretty excited about his defensive ability.

He says they received several offers for PJ in the trade deadline, which proves he's still highly valuated around the league.

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