Josh Harris busting out the "Camden Sixers" threats

[mjkvol]

It needs city council approval. But if she gets that, then yes, the arena will be a reality.

That is, in essence, the people making it happen because the people elected these officials into office.

Oh, so the people are supporting this? Then why are there polls showing that less than 20% of registered Philly voters approve of this plan? I don't believe the people elected these officials into office to enact policy seemingly against their wishes.

Money rules the day, as it always has and always will. Harris doesn't give a schiit about the city, and I'm sure the mayor and city council stand to benefit in a big way. Listen, I couldn't care less where the arena is built or if there even is a new arena, but please stop with the triteness.

At least one Philly sports legend isn't a fan.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/jason-kelce-weighs-in-on-potential-new-76ers-arena-explains-why-process-bothers-him-i-really-hate-it/

[fkd215]

A downtown arena is appealing, but not worth it if it harms or displaces Chinatown. I'd rather Philadelphia have a thriving Chinatown than a new arena. I also wonder why it couldn't have been built someplace else, maybe around 30th street station where it's equally connected to highway and SEPTA, but there's all that open industrial land. Even putting it in the Disney Hole on 8th might be slightly better.

[Monix]

why would anyone care what Jason Kelce thinks?

[Arsenal]

why would anyone care what Jason Kelce thinks?

Exactly. I care what he thinks exactly as much as I care what other braindead celebrities think about politics.

[Arsenal]

A downtown arena is appealing, but not worth it if it harms or displaces Chinatown. I'd rather Philadelphia have a thriving Chinatown than a new arena. I also wonder why it couldn't have been built someplace else, maybe around 30th street station where it's equally connected to highway and SEPTA, but there's all that open industrial land. Even putting it in the Disney Hole on 8th might be slightly better.

It's not even in Chinatown, it's just near it. Another Comcast-funded talking point.

[Arsenal]

It needs city council approval. But if she gets that, then yes, the arena will be a reality.

That is, in essence, the people making it happen because the people elected these officials into office.

Oh, so the people are supporting this? Then why are there polls showing that less than 20% of registered Philly voters approve of this plan? I don't believe the people elected these officials into office to enact policy seemingly against their wishes.

Money rules the day, as it always has and always will. Harris doesn't give a schiit about the city, and I'm sure the mayor and city council stand to benefit in a big way. Listen, I couldn't care less where the arena is built or if there even is a new arena, but please stop with the triteness.

At least one Philly sports legend isn't a fan.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/jason-kelce-weighs-in-on-potential-new-76ers-arena-explains-why-process-bothers-him-i-really-hate-it/

Come on dude. No one believes a fake poll paid for by the "Save Chinatown Commission."

[mjkvol]

It needs city council approval. But if she gets that, then yes, the arena will be a reality.

That is, in essence, the people making it happen because the people elected these officials into office.

Oh, so the people are supporting this? Then why are there polls showing that less than 20% of registered Philly voters approve of this plan? I don't believe the people elected these officials into office to enact policy seemingly against their wishes.

Money rules the day, as it always has and always will. Harris doesn't give a schiit about the city, and I'm sure the mayor and city council stand to benefit in a big way. Listen, I couldn't care less where the arena is built or if there even is a new arena, but please stop with the triteness.

At least one Philly sports legend isn't a fan.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/jason-kelce-weighs-in-on-potential-new-76ers-arena-explains-why-process-bothers-him-i-really-hate-it/

Come on dude. No one believes a fake poll paid for by the "Save Chinatown Commission."

So you believe that the majority of Philadelphians want this?

Not that it matters if they do or don't - the money has spoken.

[Arsenal]

Oh, so the people are supporting this? Then why are there polls showing that less than 20% of registered Philly voters approve of this plan? I don't believe the people elected these officials into office to enact policy seemingly against their wishes.

Money rules the day, as it always has and always will. Harris doesn't give a schiit about the city, and I'm sure the mayor and city council stand to benefit in a big way. Listen, I couldn't care less where the arena is built or if there even is a new arena, but please stop with the triteness.

At least one Philly sports legend isn't a fan.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/jason-kelce-weighs-in-on-potential-new-76ers-arena-explains-why-process-bothers-him-i-really-hate-it/

Come on dude. No one believes a fake poll paid for by the "Save Chinatown Commission."

So you believe that the majority of Philadelphians want this?

Not that it matters if they do or don't - the money has spoken.

I'd say probably yes, but you're right it doesn't matter. This is a fantastic project for the city whether people like it or not.

And the money has spoken in that the team is paying for the entire project, which is a big reason why it's such a great project.

Besides, there was also BIG MONEY against this - Comcast - so spare me the lament about money.

[M2J]

Come on dude. No one believes a fake poll paid for by the "Save Chinatown Commission."

So you believe that the majority of Philadelphians want this?

Not that it matters if they do or don't - the money has spoken.

I'd say probably yes, but you're right it doesn't matter. This is a fantastic project for the city whether people like it or not.

And the money has spoken in that the team is paying for the entire project, which is a big reason why it's such a great project.

Besides, there was also BIG MONEY against this - Comcast - so spare me the lament about money.

Again I don't live in Philly and never will, but it was my understanding that it wasn't about to be built on top of Chinatown.

These arenas take up a few blocks, maybe less if they're smart parking and not creating a parking lot at all (maybe a small VIP deck that's like $200+) they can add to an area or perhaps create a booming area.

I know when I saw some of the anti arena reasoning being "it will slow down ambulances", that it was not hurting much. It was spin from Comcast and the city. Comcast wants the revenue from concerts... The city officials doesn't want to deal with political fallout of the protests, and they were okay with the status qou because they were getting the tax revenue already. But, whatever the polls say now when everything's just drawings... constituents (including state constituents) wouldn't be happy if the team actually leaves the state.... Even if it is within driving distance.... It's not a politically smart thing for the government nor a financially smart one. Their opponents will literally run on that issue.

Only reason that has been deemed politically safe to lose a team is using tax payer money. That's not the case here, and even then you lose a bunch of the population. Plus with those tax credits, and the ability to build more around it.... The NJ deal still seems like the better deal for them honestly

[mjkvol]

Come on dude. No one believes a fake poll paid for by the "Save Chinatown Commission."

So you believe that the majority of Philadelphians want this?

Not that it matters if they do or don't - the money has spoken.

I'd say probably yes, but you're right it doesn't matter. This is a fantastic project for the city whether people like it or not.

And the money has spoken in that the team is paying for the entire project, which is a big reason why it's such a great project.

Besides, there was also BIG MONEY against this - Comcast - so spare me the lament about money.

I'm not lamenting, just stating an obvious fact. Like I said, I honestly don't really care either way.

But if Comcast is getting screwed, that's one part of this I can get behind wholeheartedly.

[blazehound]

Oh, so the people are supporting this? Then why are there polls showing that less than 20% of registered Philly voters approve of this plan? I don't believe the people elected these officials into office to enact policy seemingly against their wishes.

Money rules the day, as it always has and always will. Harris doesn't give a schiit about the city, and I'm sure the mayor and city council stand to benefit in a big way. Listen, I couldn't care less where the arena is built or if there even is a new arena, but please stop with the triteness.

At least one Philly sports legend isn't a fan.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/jason-kelce-weighs-in-on-potential-new-76ers-arena-explains-why-process-bothers-him-i-really-hate-it/

Come on dude. No one believes a fake poll paid for by the "Save Chinatown Commission."

So you believe that the majority of Philadelphians want this?

Not that it matters if they do or don't - the money has spoken.

I am a tax paying Philadelphia resident and I 100% want the stadium downtown. The area where the stadium will go is in dire need of development. Furthermore, the stadium won’t displace anything in Chinatown, it’s going next to it on Market Street. And as some else said, Jason Kelce can STFU. He’s not from Philadelphia and isn’t a 76ers fan.

[Negrodamus]

Hot take, I love how much Chinatown has made a stink about this. Milk the billionaires for all theyre worth to improve upon your neighborhood.

[blazehound]

Hot take, I love how much Chinatown has made a stink about this. Milk the billionaires for all theyre worth to improve upon your neighborhood.

We should all be so unfortunate! In the end, it’s all a game and the Chinatown leaders will get their envelope.

[Sixerscan]

Hot take, I love how much Chinatown has made a stink about this. Milk the billionaires for all theyre worth to improve upon your neighborhood.

For sure, game is gonna be played either way, may as well get yours. Especially with a powerful aligned party like Comcast.

Speaking of Comcast, I wonder how the "no tax breaks unless you give any other stadium tax breaks" thing was resolved.

[FireMorey]

It needs city council approval. But if she gets that, then yes, the arena will be a reality.

That is, in essence, the people making it happen because the people elected these officials into office.

Oh, so the people are supporting this? Then why are there polls showing that less than 20% of registered Philly voters approve of this plan? I don't believe the people elected these officials into office to enact policy seemingly against their wishes.

Money rules the day, as it always has and always will. Harris doesn't give a schiit about the city, and I'm sure the mayor and city council stand to benefit in a big way. Listen, I couldn't care less where the arena is built or if there even is a new arena, but please stop with the triteness.

At least one Philly sports legend isn't a fan.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/jason-kelce-weighs-in-on-potential-new-76ers-arena-explains-why-process-bothers-him-i-really-hate-it/

Most people probably don't, but they don't have a say. Not everyone can get what they want, that's how the world works.

[fkd215]

A downtown arena is appealing, but not worth it if it harms or displaces Chinatown. I'd rather Philadelphia have a thriving Chinatown than a new arena. I also wonder why it couldn't have been built someplace else, maybe around 30th street station where it's equally connected to highway and SEPTA, but there's all that open industrial land. Even putting it in the Disney Hole on 8th might be slightly better.

It's not even in Chinatown, it's just near it. Another Comcast-funded talking point.

Agree to disagree. Chinatown residents' concerns about displacement and gentrification are real, well-studied, and well-documented in Philadelphia's own independent impact studies. It's true that Comcast has a vested interest here, but the concerns are still valid. Unfortunately, this seems like a done deal at this point.

[XtremeDunkz]

As a selfish jersey shore resident i hate this. I love how easy it is to get to the sports complex. I probably won't go to any sixers games once this is built and that's okay. Phillies games are more fun anyway.

[Snotbubbles]

So you believe that the majority of Philadelphians want this?

Not that it matters if they do or don't - the money has spoken.

I'd say probably yes, but you're right it doesn't matter. This is a fantastic project for the city whether people like it or not.

And the money has spoken in that the team is paying for the entire project, which is a big reason why it's such a great project.

Besides, there was also BIG MONEY against this - Comcast - so spare me the lament about money.

Again I don't live in Philly and never will, but it was my understanding that it wasn't about to be built on top of Chinatown.

These arenas take up a few blocks, maybe less if they're smart parking and not creating a parking lot at all (maybe a small VIP deck that's like $200+) they can add to an area or perhaps create a booming area.

I know when I saw some of the anti arena reasoning being "it will slow down ambulances", that it was not hurting much. It was spin from Comcast and the city. Comcast wants the revenue from concerts... The city officials doesn't want to deal with political fallout of the protests, and they were okay with the status qou because they were getting the tax revenue already. But, whatever the polls say now when everything's just drawings... constituents (including state constituents) wouldn't be happy if the team actually leaves the state.... Even if it is within driving distance.... It's not a politically smart thing for the government nor a financially smart one. Their opponents will literally run on that issue.

Only reason that has been deemed politically safe to lose a team is using tax payer money. That's not the case here, and even then you lose a bunch of the population. Plus with those tax credits, and the ability to build more around it.... The NJ deal still seems like the better deal for them honestly

Anyone who has ever tried to drive in downtown Philly during the week knows, you aren't going to a game in the City and driving. It would probably take you a half hour to get to the location now, with 10-15K people trying to get to the same location, you're probably looking at an hour to get within a 5 block radius of the arena (and that might be a generous estimate) and then, once you get close, you will probably have trouble finding parking, and the parking you do find will probably be $40 easily as the people who own the lots will jack up the rates. What's going to happen is people will park somewhere outside of the downtown area and take public transportation to the location. But that presents a new level of risk for the commuter.

[WC NBA Fan]

Done Deal! For all the NIMBYs, naysayers, and nattering nabobs of negativism... all I got to say is... TOO BAD BABY!!!

Is the city, county or state giving any public funds or things like tax abatements?

Was there some organized NIMBY opposition?

There is always gonna be NIMBY opposition but like Chase Center, this thing is going to be privately financed so I would've hoped that the NIMBYism would be limited. Unfortunately, there seems to be a lot of people that want to stop this thing from happening for one reason or another

[Arsenal]

A downtown arena is appealing, but not worth it if it harms or displaces Chinatown. I'd rather Philadelphia have a thriving Chinatown than a new arena. I also wonder why it couldn't have been built someplace else, maybe around 30th street station where it's equally connected to highway and SEPTA, but there's all that open industrial land. Even putting it in the Disney Hole on 8th might be slightly better.

It's not even in Chinatown, it's just near it. Another Comcast-funded talking point.

Agree to disagree. Chinatown residents' concerns about displacement and gentrification are real, well-studied, and well-documented in Philadelphia's own independent impact studies. It's true that Comcast has a vested interest here, but the concerns are still valid. Unfortunately, this seems like a done deal at this point.

It's totally absurd to think "Chinatown residents" (aka Comcast-funded shills) should have a VETO over other parts of the city that aren't even Chinatown. Insane NIMBYism run wild which thankfully has been shut down in this case.