Sixers 2024-25 Season Thread Part 1

[mjkvol]

Hopefully Silver does us a favor and suspends Embiid for the season. Morey should then trade George, Martin and Oubre and let's really get the tank under way.

[76ciology]

Hopefully Silver does us a favor and suspends Embiid for the season. Morey should then trade George, Martin and Oubre and let's really get the tank under way.

Given our luck. We’d tank, then we lose the pick to the Thunder because of the result of the lottery

Or we draft Cooper Flagg then he’d forget how to shoot

[Mik317]

if we ever get into tank position I am sure we'd do a trade with the thunder to get it back or move the protections around

[76ciology]

George and Maxey has to take 20 3s a game.

[sixers4real]

Any update on PG and Embiid against Suns?

[eyeatoma]

Any update on PG and Embiid against Suns?

Shams tweeted that PG is likely going to play.

[blargh]

George and Maxey has to take 20 3s a game.

I think once our top two guys come back and the spacing improves, our role players will take (and make) more threes as well.

[sixers4real]

Any update on PG and Embiid against Suns?

Shams tweeted that PG is likely going to play.

Finally some good news. But I think we still lose

[the_process]

It’s more realistic for us to circle like vultures around the Bucks and waiting for a chance to snag Giannis.

For who and what?

Spoiler:

Sixers Receive:
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Gary Trent Jr.

Sixers Starting 5:
Kyle Lowry
Gary Trent Jr.
Paul George
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Joel Embiid

Why the Sixers do it:
This move creates a true Big Three, positioning the Sixers as serious championship contenders. If they don’t act, OKC might swoop in for Giannis, which would likely close their championship window anyway.

Bucks Receive:
Tyrese Maxey
Jonathan Kuminga
KJ Martin
2028 LAC 1st Round Pick
2029 LAC pick swap option

Bucks Starting 5:
Tyrese Maxey
Damian Lillard
Khris Middleton
Jonathan Kuminga
Brook Lopez

Why the Bucks do it:
The Bucks get a promising young star in Maxey and additional assets to build for the future, plus Kuminga’s potential as their future starting forward. Compete now with Dame, Maxey and Kuminga. Compete later with Maxey, Kuminga and the LAC picks.

Warriors Receive:
Kelly Oubre
2026 Sixers or OKC 1st Round Pick
2030 Sixers 1st Round Pick

Why the Warriors do it:
Oubre fills Kuminga’s role, and they add two 1st round picks, which allows them to avoid overpaying for Kuminga while building future assets.

I would much rather trade Joel than do that deal. Also Oubre and GSW famously did not mesh well together.

[76ciology]

For who and what?

Spoiler:

Sixers Receive:
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Gary Trent Jr.

Sixers Starting 5:
Kyle Lowry
Gary Trent Jr.
Paul George
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Joel Embiid

Why the Sixers do it:
This move creates a true Big Three, positioning the Sixers as serious championship contenders. If they don’t act, OKC might swoop in for Giannis, which would likely close their championship window anyway.

Bucks Receive:
Tyrese Maxey
Jonathan Kuminga
KJ Martin
2028 LAC 1st Round Pick
2029 LAC pick swap option

Bucks Starting 5:
Tyrese Maxey
Damian Lillard
Khris Middleton
Jonathan Kuminga
Brook Lopez

Why the Bucks do it:
The Bucks get a promising young star in Maxey and additional assets to build for the future, plus Kuminga’s potential as their future starting forward. Compete now with Dame, Maxey and Kuminga. Compete later with Maxey, Kuminga and the LAC picks.

Warriors Receive:
Kelly Oubre
2026 Sixers or OKC 1st Round Pick
2030 Sixers 1st Round Pick

Why the Warriors do it:
Oubre fills Kuminga’s role, and they add two 1st round picks, which allows them to avoid overpaying for Kuminga while building future assets.

I would much rather trade Joel than do that deal. Also Oubre and GSW famously did not mesh well together.

We can just find a third team for Oubre. Or maybe replace Oubre with Caleb.

I dont think anyone can pass up the chance of teaming up George, Giannis and Goel.

Anyway, its not happening.

[the_process]

Spoiler:

Sixers Receive:
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Gary Trent Jr.

Sixers Starting 5:
Kyle Lowry
Gary Trent Jr.
Paul George
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Joel Embiid

Why the Sixers do it:
This move creates a true Big Three, positioning the Sixers as serious championship contenders. If they don’t act, OKC might swoop in for Giannis, which would likely close their championship window anyway.

Bucks Receive:
Tyrese Maxey
Jonathan Kuminga
KJ Martin
2028 LAC 1st Round Pick
2029 LAC pick swap option

Bucks Starting 5:
Tyrese Maxey
Damian Lillard
Khris Middleton
Jonathan Kuminga
Brook Lopez

Why the Bucks do it:
The Bucks get a promising young star in Maxey and additional assets to build for the future, plus Kuminga’s potential as their future starting forward. Compete now with Dame, Maxey and Kuminga. Compete later with Maxey, Kuminga and the LAC picks.

Warriors Receive:
Kelly Oubre
2026 Sixers or OKC 1st Round Pick
2030 Sixers 1st Round Pick

Why the Warriors do it:
Oubre fills Kuminga’s role, and they add two 1st round picks, which allows them to avoid overpaying for Kuminga while building future assets.

I would much rather trade Joel than do that deal. Also Oubre and GSW famously did not mesh well together.

We can just find a third team for Oubre. Or maybe replace Oubre with Caleb.

I dont think anyone can pass up the chance of teaming up George, Giannis and Goel.

Anyway, its not happening.

Morey would definitely do it.

[76ciology]

The key difference in the Suns game was Yabu’s ability to pick and pop against Nurkic’s heavy drop coverage, along with Paul George’s skill in creating scoring opportunities against smaller defenders. These two factors opened up a lot of clean looks for our shooters, similar to the Celtics’ offense with their stretch 5 and Tatum relentlessly hunting mismatches before kicking out to open shooters.

We should avoid pairing Drummond with Caleb and Oubre, as the spacing suffers with those three on the floor together. Instead, we should either have Yabu at the 5 with those two for better floor spacing or stagger Lowry/Gordon with Caleb/Oubre.

For our bench units, we should pair Maxey with wings and Yabu. This setup allows us to run Maxey and Yabu in pick-and-pop actions or have Yabu attack smaller defenders. If we have trouble scoring, we can insert Gordon or Lowry in the place of Caleb or Oubre.

Meanwhile, we can use a 3 guard lineup with George and Drummond, running 1-3 PnR with George attacking mismatches and kicking out to shooters, while Drummond focuses on crashing the boards. If defense is weak in this unit, we can insert Caleb in place of one of the guards.

[FireMorey]

Maxey to miss multiple weeks with a hamstring injury.

[Sixteen]

basketball gods want us to tank. I say we do. Let's punt the season and come back with a top 5 pick next season.

[davesilver]

On probability and tanking in our scenario:

If the Sixers' current odds are 7% (midpoint of 5%–10%) and adding a legitimate superstar piece raises this to around 15%–20%, you’re looking at an increase of 8%–13% in championship odds.
Considering the 20% implied probability of drafting a player who pans out, the expected increase in championship odds would be:

~1.6% to 2.6%

I think there's a lot of underlying complexity here.

a) The contract implications of a star rookie player next to Embiid/Maxey/PG
b) Potential frustration of Embiid

To be honest, I think it's worth the tank and taking a 'rehab' year for Embiid/PG. Maybe a poor mentality, but the idea of having a legitimate star piece locked up on a rookie contract with the new CBA and a big 3 is too intriguing to pass up.

[Negrodamus]

We're not going to tank. Embiid will be back in 2 games and Maxey will return in a week or two. We'd have to completely suck at full capacity for us to pivot to a tank. Or at least 2 of our 3 stars would have to have long term injuries.

[Sixteen]

We're not going to tank. Embiid will be back in 2 games and Maxey will return in a week or two. We'd have to completely suck at full capacity for us to pivot to a tank. Or at least 2 of our 3 stars would have to have long term injuries.

way to be a Debbie downer lol

[Stanford]

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[Stanford]

Joking and tanking fantasies aside, this is a worst-case scenario. We're going to be fighting for home court in a play-in game all year and if we fall out of the playoffs, we won't be bad enough to keep the pick. Brutal.

[M2J]

Cool so now the only guy that can dribble is out.

Team hasn't had to be without him for long since he became pg. Joel can't do it without him.

They should consider going to get Fultz as I suggested because they need some pacing from that position.