Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric

Winejk · Post #1001 » by **Winejk** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:03 am

bobbeaver wrote:I dont know if you noticed the off balance 2 in the corner last night. It looked freaking wet. No doubt in his shot. He looked like a born shooter doing that. Its something you would never see from him before, even at the end of last year when he got it all together. Those kind of plays and ease and confidence and relaxed manner he does it with are signs of his continuing improvement.
But the real impressive stuff is that he improved his overall shooting even further while his shots are getting harder and harder.
Btw he us 15th in 3 pt% in the category in players that atempted 300 3s or over

I'll jinx him by mentioning this, but I've noticed that when Dario misses a 3 point attempt, he doesn't miss left or right. It is usually long or short, mostly short. That's a sign of a shooter with good form. I've been real impressed by how much Dario has been able to improve his shooting from his time in Europe all the way up to now.

76ciology · Post #1002 » by **76ciology** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:55 am

cool93 wrote:We should trade him, lol

The thing is he'll be a lot better in couple of years, he is just such a smart player. I really believe eventually he can be 3rd best guy on championship squad.

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Actually, i wouldnt mind trading him while his value is at his been highest. While I think a big FA can take over his spot.

Then, you trade him for who or what? He's not a generational talent, he's not a star guard nor is he a freak big.

He's value is around a good 3&D guy maybe Jayson Tatum or Otto Porter. Probably a mid to late lotto pick?

spikeslovechild · Post #1003 » by **spikeslovechild** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:24 am

76ciology wrote:
cool93 wrote:We should trade him, lol

The thing is he'll be a lot better in couple of years, he is just such a smart player. I really believe eventually he can be 3rd best guy on championship squad.

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Actually, i wouldnt mind trading him while his value is at his been highest. While I think a big FA can take over his spot.

Then, you trade him for who or what? He's not a generational talent, he's not a star guard nor is he a freak big.

He's value is around a good 3&D guy maybe Jayson Tatum or Otto Porter. Probably a mid to late lotto pick?

I'd only move him as part of a superstar deal something along the lines of Kawhi and only if a top FA like Lebron comes here first.

jsa · Post #1004 » by **jsa** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:29 am

I think Dario is a strong ancillary player on a good team, a direction the 76ers are heading.He is shooting deep confidently and well. He bangs on the boards. His defense is decent. He is a plus passer and is cutting down his turnovers.Seems to be a popular teammate. I would not trade him without an exceptional offer. 50% of lottery draft choices don't pan out anyway

spikeslovechild · Post #1005 » by **spikeslovechild** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:54 am

His contract is a major asset for us even if Lebron comes there is no reason to move him unless we are blown away.

Simmons25 · Post #1006 » by **Simmons25** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:42 am

Dario is our Draymond Green but with a better shot and worse defense. Can't doubt his hustle and the man is a winner.

I personally wouldn't trade him.

XtremeDunkz · Post #1007 » by **XtremeDunkz** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:51 am

I can't even believe trading him is even still a discussion. You guys are never happy.

phifans · Post #1008 » by **phifans** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:25 am

Simmons25 wrote:Dario is our Draymond Green but with a better shot and worse defense. Can't doubt his hustle and the man is a winner.

I personally wouldn't trade him.

I dont think Saric plays like Green at all he's been carried this team offensively when Embiid had some off nights lately.

Funny things is Simmons is the guy who plays more like Draymond Green except he plays point guard.

Simmons25 · Post #1009 » by **Simmons25** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:21 am

phifans wrote:
Simmons25 wrote:Dario is our Draymond Green but with a better shot and worse defense. Can't doubt his hustle and the man is a winner.

I personally wouldn't trade him.

I dont think Saric plays like Green at all he's been carried this team offensively when Embiid had some off nights lately.

Funny things is Simmons is the guy who plays more like Draymond Green except he plays point guard.

Didn't say he plays like Green... he has traits similar to Green that all championship teams need.

Draymond Green had limitations with his game but everyone in College would say that he gives 100% all the time and his most important asset is that he is a winner.

I see Saric similar in that respect. Not the most athletic guy, not the best skilled.... but he is a winner and fights for everything.

I don't see Green and Simmons the same at all... Simmons is highly skilled and makes everything seem easy and smooth. Simmons has so much natural ability that it often looks at times like he is not trying. The exact opposite to Green.

ziggy77 · Post #1010 » by **ziggy77** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:02 am

The only problem that i can see regarding his future as a Sixer, is that he has the goal to become an All star one day (trust me on this) so we will see how things will pan out when Fultz get's back and they sign a free agent or Lebron get's here.

He is unselfish guy but also he is a proud one. And kind of a star in Croatia and Europe. He is driven to become as best he can be, and in his mind that All-star goal is a must in his career.

Kova · Post #1011 » by **Kova** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:09 am

76ciology wrote:
cool93 wrote:We should trade him, lol

The thing is he'll be a lot better in couple of years, he is just such a smart player. I really believe eventually he can be 3rd best guy on championship squad.

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Actually, i wouldnt mind trading him while his value is at his been highest. While I think a big FA can take over his spot.

Then, you trade him for who or what? He's not a generational talent, he's not a star guard nor is he a freak big.

He's value is around a good 3&D guy maybe Jayson Tatum or Otto Porter. Probably a mid to late lotto pick?

So you are saying you would trade him for a player of a similar value, who we don't know how would fit with our star players and the rest of the team, and is probably older and on a less favorable contract than Dario? Lol

cool93 · Post #1012 » by **cool93** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:50 am

76ciology wrote:
cool93 wrote:We should trade him, lol

The thing is he'll be a lot better in couple of years, he is just such a smart player. I really believe eventually he can be 3rd best guy on championship squad.

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Actually, i wouldnt mind trading him while his value is at his been highest. While I think a big FA can take over his spot.

Then, you trade him for who or what? He's not a generational talent, he's not a star guard nor is he a freak big.

He's value is around a good 3&D guy maybe Jayson Tatum or Otto Porter. Probably a mid to late lotto pick?

What? Why do you think his value is the highest right now? He'll only get better with time, he is much different player than a year ago, and he'll be much better a year from now.
He is a good fit and great locker room guy, trade him for some unknown prospect? Hell no! Only in a package for a superstar.

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pepe1991 · Post #1013 » by **pepe1991** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:26 am

You guys do understand that you have 15 ppg, 7 rpg, 46%-40%-88% guy at age of 24- on $2,5M for next and $3,5M 2020 season?
He is easly best value per dollar in nba.
Trading him for what? Otto Porter ? Guy is owned $106M in next 4 years . You would need to shif massive salary back to even make trade legal.

Kova · Post #1014 » by **Kova** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:33 am

pepe1991 wrote:You guys do understand that you have 15 ppg, 7 rpg, 46%-40%-88% guy at age of 24- on $2,5M for next and $3,5M 2020 season?
He is easly best value per dollar in nba.
Trading him for what? Otto Porter ? Guy is owned $106M in next 4 years . You would need to shif massive salary back to even make trade legal.

No, unfortunately they don't understand. They want to make a trade just for the sake of making a trade, which will then set us back again.

They don't understand that Dario is a perfect fit for a contender that has 2-3 stars on the team already.

gdog2004 · Post #1015 » by **gdog2004** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:07 pm

Kova wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:You guys do understand that you have 15 ppg, 7 rpg, 46%-40%-88% guy at age of 24- on $2,5M for next and $3,5M 2020 season?
He is easly best value per dollar in nba.
Trading him for what? Otto Porter ? Guy is owned $106M in next 4 years . You would need to shif massive salary back to even make trade legal.

No, unfortunately they don't understand. They want to make a trade just for the sake of making a trade, which will then set us back again.

They don't understand that Dario is a perfect fit for a contender that has 2-3 stars on the team already.

Exactly. What is the point of trading a KNOWN VERY GOOD player in the Sixers system who is also a good chemistry guy ?
I've heard some of the better Sixer media comment about how bad his defense/switching is (I think Bodner comes to mind), and that mayyy be true. But he does other things(scoring/rebounding/assists) and its not like he's anchoring the defense anyway.
It would be awesome if he were an all world defender but he's not. You STILL need guys who can make shots, make plays and rebound and he does all of that. I would like him to finish his career here unless like others have mentioned he can be traded as part of a package for a superstar. For a mid round draft pick ? WHY ? We have the number one pick sitting on the shelf healthy the whole year.
Sixer fans of all people should know better and KNOW the draft is a crap shoot. Give me the proven Dario over any unproven mid round draft pick any day of the week.

spikeslovechild · Post #1016 » by **spikeslovechild** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:41 pm

gdog2004 wrote:
Kova wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:You guys do understand that you have 15 ppg, 7 rpg, 46%-40%-88% guy at age of 24- on $2,5M for next and $3,5M 2020 season?
He is easly best value per dollar in nba.
Trading him for what? Otto Porter ? Guy is owned $106M in next 4 years . You would need to shif massive salary back to even make trade legal.

No, unfortunately they don't understand. They want to make a trade just for the sake of making a trade, which will then set us back again.

They don't understand that Dario is a perfect fit for a contender that has 2-3 stars on the team already.

Exactly. What is the point of trading a KNOWN VERY GOOD player in the Sixers system who is also a good chemistry guy ?
I've heard some of the better Sixer media comment about how bad his defense/switching is (I think Bodner comes to mind), and that mayyy be true. But he does other things(scoring/rebounding/assists) and its not like he's anchoring the defense anyway.
It would be awesome if he were an all world defender but he's not. You STILL need guys who can make shots, make plays and rebound and he does all of that. I would like him to finish his career here unless like others have mentioned he can be traded as part of a package for a superstar. For a mid round draft pick ? WHY ? We have the number one pick sitting on the shelf healthy the whole year.
Sixer fans of all people should know better and KNOW the draft is a crap shoot. Give me the proven Dario over any unproven mid round draft pick any day of the week.

The only way I'd be willing to move him is part of some trade for a superstar. Think Kawhi. No reason to trade him otherwise even if Lebron comes he isn't some stiff we have to project he's already ready to contribute and has gotten better if he becomes a 50/40 guy at around 16 PPG not much more you could ask for as the 4th guy on a team.

aHealthy3 · Post #1017 » by **aHealthy3** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:17 pm

gdog2004 wrote:
Kova wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:You guys do understand that you have 15 ppg, 7 rpg, 46%-40%-88% guy at age of 24- on $2,5M for next and $3,5M 2020 season?
He is easly best value per dollar in nba.
Trading him for what? Otto Porter ? Guy is owned $106M in next 4 years . You would need to shif massive salary back to even make trade legal.

No, unfortunately they don't understand. They want to make a trade just for the sake of making a trade, which will then set us back again.

They don't understand that Dario is a perfect fit for a contender that has 2-3 stars on the team already.

Exactly. What is the point of trading a KNOWN VERY GOOD player in the Sixers system who is also a good chemistry guy ?
I've heard some of the better Sixer media comment about how bad his defense/switching is (I think Bodner comes to mind), and that mayyy be true. But he does other things(scoring/rebounding/assists) and its not like he's anchoring the defense anyway.
It would be awesome if he were an all world defender but he's not. You STILL need guys who can make shots, make plays and rebound and he does all of that. I would like him to finish his career here unless like others have mentioned he can be traded as part of a package for a superstar. For a mid round draft pick ? WHY ? We have the number one pick sitting on the shelf healthy the whole year.
Sixer fans of all people should know better and KNOW the draft is a crap shoot. Give me the proven Dario over any unproven mid round draft pick any day of the week.

We are already slated to pick 12th and 18th this year. Those 2 picks might not even be able to get many minutes next year. 0 point in trading him for a late lotto pick especially on his deal. Superstar better be coming back if Dario gets moved anytime soon.

long range bomber · Post #1018 » by **long range bomber** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:29 pm

Keep Dario unless it is it is part of a package(with other pieces) for an Allstar signed to atleast 2-3 seasons to complement Embiid and Simmons.

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Wilfried · Post #1019 » by **Wilfried** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:30 pm

long range bomber wrote:Keep Dario unless it is it is part of a package(with other pieces) for an Allstar signed to atleast 2-3 seasons to complement Embiid and Simmons.

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Unless, he's an Allstar in 2-3 seasons.

long range bomber · Post #1020 » by **long range bomber** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:53 pm

Wilfried wrote:
long range bomber wrote:Keep Dario unless it is it is part of a package(with other pieces) for an Allstar signed to atleast 2-3 seasons to complement Embiid and Simmons.

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Unless, he's an Allstar in 2-3 seasons.

Love Dario but don’t think he has the upside to be an Allstar unless it is in the vein of team success recognition like the Korver/Teague Allstar selections.

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