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Post#1001 » by mjkvol » Sat Mar 5, 2022 3:01 pm

Maxey was probably headed there anyway, but Harden essentially kicked open the door for this kid to explode the way he has. All of the hesitation and deferring is gone and he has no fear of taking the reigns and leading even with Harden and Embiid on the floor.

This really has to end the 'we need to get Tobias going' garbage we still hear from media people (like Alaa last night). Tobias just has to take shots in rhythm when he has them (passed up a couple last night that miffed Harden a bit), play defense and rebound. Oh, and maybe work a bit on entry passes to Embiid. The man just seems to have little to no basketball IQ.
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Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey! 

Post#1002 » by Stanford » Sat Mar 5, 2022 3:07 pm

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Post#1003 » by Kobblehead » Sat Mar 5, 2022 3:11 pm

Thank you, fine sirs at basketball reference.
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Post#1004 » by mjkvol » Sat Mar 5, 2022 3:12 pm

Stanford wrote:https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kobblehead.html

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Nice. That's really funny.
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Post#1005 » by youngcrev » Sat Mar 5, 2022 3:17 pm

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Dnt hate wrote:There was a bunch of you that wanted to trade him too. I've said this many times and I'll repeat, thank God we got Morey, he kept Maxey and Thybulle.

More like thank God the Raptors asked for too much on top of Maxey.

I was totally on board btw :lol: To be fair if we get Lowry and Simmons doesn't crap his pants we maybe win the title. Knowing what we know now it definitely worked out for the best though.


Yeah, I kinda feel like that's conveniently getting ignored in these "I told you so"s.

But yes, in retrospect, with the leaps he's made, I was definitely way too willing to include him in deals.

Particularly at this moment in time while he's on an incredible hot streak.
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Post#1006 » by Kobblehead » Sat Mar 5, 2022 3:24 pm

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Official Bin update:

Keep:
- Embiid
- Harden
- Green
- Thybulle
- Niang
- Joe
- Springer
- Reed
- Jordan
- Maxey (driven by steal percentage, still needs to shoot more)

Donate/Sell:
- Korkmaz (shooting has fallen off a cliff, lacks confidence)
- Harris
- Milton

Trash:
- Brown
- Cauley-Stein
- Powell
- Milsapp

*Red indicates recent change.
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Post#1007 » by mjkvol » Sat Mar 5, 2022 3:27 pm

youngcrev wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
Dnt hate wrote:There was a bunch of you that wanted to trade him too. I've said this many times and I'll repeat, thank God we got Morey, he kept Maxey and Thybulle.

More like thank God the Raptors asked for too much on top of Maxey.

I was totally on board btw :lol: To be fair if we get Lowry and Simmons doesn't crap his pants we maybe win the title. Knowing what we know now it definitely worked out for the best though.


Yeah, I kinda feel like that's conveniently getting ignored in these "I told you so"s.

But yes, in retrospect, with the leaps he's made, I was definitely way too willing to include him in deals.

Particularly at this moment in time while he's on an incredible hot streak.


I think it's a bit more than a 'hot streak', even though he is blazing hot at the moment. I'd be really surprised if this kind of play is not sustainable (20 ppg, 40% 3PA) given how hard this kid works and cares. He needed that last push to impose his will and take over when necessary, and Harden's presence appears to have given him that nudge.
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Post#1008 » by Ksny13 » Sat Mar 5, 2022 3:56 pm

I can see why you guys didn't want to include him in any trade. He's simply amazing and at such a young age.
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Post#1009 » by DHM » Sat Mar 5, 2022 4:03 pm

You can just see his confidence grow every game. We do have a big 3 but it’s not Tobi!

Thank god we have Morey and he hung onto him!!
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Post#1010 » by Tony Franciosa » Sat Mar 5, 2022 4:07 pm

I want to see how well he does in the playoffs when things get much tighter before anointing him anything this season, but he played well against ATL last year's series. the future is real bright for this kid
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Post#1011 » by stormi » Sat Mar 5, 2022 4:14 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Spoiler:
Image

Official Bin update:

Keep:
- Embiid
- Harden
- Green
- Thybulle
- Niang
- Joe
- Springer
- Reed
- Jordan
- Maxey (driven by steal percentage, still needs to shoot more)

Donate/Sell:
- Korkmaz (shooting has fallen off a cliff, lacks confidence)
- Harris
- Milton

Trash:
- Brown
- Cauley-Stein
- Powell
- Milsapp

*Red indicates recent change.


Accurate.
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Post#1012 » by LloydFree » Sat Mar 5, 2022 4:21 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Image

Official Bin update:

Keep:
- Embiid
- Harden
- Green
- Thybulle
- Niang
- Joe
- Springer
- Reed
- Jordan
- Maxey (driven by steal percentage, still needs to shoot more)

Donate/Sell:
- Korkmaz (shooting has fallen off a cliff, lacks confidence)
- Harris
- Milton

Trash:
- Brown
- Cauley-Stein
- Powell
- Milsapp

*Red indicates recent change.

Do you think Springer is going to be good? I have to be honest, I wasn't really familiar with him pre-draft and I haven't seen anything special about his game or athletic ability.
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Post#1013 » by DHM » Sat Mar 5, 2022 4:31 pm

Tony Franciosa wrote:I want to see how well he does in the playoffs when things get much tighter before anointing him anything this season, but he played well against ATL last year's series. the future is real bright for this kid


I’m pretty sure he has the type of mental make up for the playoff - stress is not going to bother him. He’s the real deal!!
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Post#1014 » by youngcrev » Sat Mar 5, 2022 4:40 pm

mjkvol wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:More like thank God the Raptors asked for too much on top of Maxey.

I was totally on board btw :lol: To be fair if we get Lowry and Simmons doesn't crap his pants we maybe win the title. Knowing what we know now it definitely worked out for the best though.


Yeah, I kinda feel like that's conveniently getting ignored in these "I told you so"s.

But yes, in retrospect, with the leaps he's made, I was definitely way too willing to include him in deals.

Particularly at this moment in time while he's on an incredible hot streak.


I think it's a bit more than a 'hot streak', even though he is blazing hot at the moment. I'd be really surprised if this kind of play is not sustainable (20 ppg, 40% 3PA) given how hard this kid works and cares. He needed that last push to impose his will and take over when necessary, and Harden's presence appears to have given him that nudge.


I don't think it's just a hot streak. 26.8 on .802 TS obviously is though. It'll be interesting to see where this stabilizes.

I'm struggling with accepting the leap he's made as a shooter. This is not what Sixers do.
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Post#1015 » by Iverson Armband » Sat Mar 5, 2022 5:03 pm

LloydFree wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:I believe the quote was, “you can find scorers off the bench like him in any draft” :lol:

:D No, get it right. I said you can get 6'2 SG's like him in any draft.

Now he's better than most, but I still believe that. Guys like Coby White, Malik Monk, Cole Anthony and Emmanuel Quickly don't end up on teams that have 2 MVP caliber players that command double teams at all times.

He still has to perform and make the shots. I’m not going to pretend having those two around him doesn’t help, but he was having a great season even before Harden. Mentioning those other guys just isn’t showing the proper respect to Maxey or giving him his just due. We’re all wrong sometimes. Malik Monk plays with arguably the best player of all time and the guys around Coby White aren’t exactly chopped liver either.

Guys with the combined talent, attitude and work ethic of a Maxey aren’t available in any draft, that’s where you miscalculated.
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Post#1016 » by zaz102 » Sat Mar 5, 2022 5:07 pm

stormi wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:
Spoiler:
Image

Official Bin update:

Keep:
- Embiid
- Harden
- Green
- Thybulle
- Niang
- Joe
- Springer
- Reed
- Jordan
- Maxey (driven by steal percentage, still needs to shoot more)

Donate/Sell:
- Korkmaz (shooting has fallen off a cliff, lacks confidence)
- Harris
- Milton

Trash:
- Brown
- Cauley-Stein
- Powell
- Milsapp

*Red indicates recent change.


Accurate.
I'd be willing to move Shake to keep due to his salary being low and if he has more games like yesterday.
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Post#1017 » by LloydFree » Sat Mar 5, 2022 5:16 pm

Iverson Armband wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:I believe the quote was, “you can find scorers off the bench like him in any draft” :lol:

:D No, get it right. I said you can get 6'2 SG's like him in any draft.

Now he's better than most, but I still believe that. Guys like Coby White, Malik Monk, Cole Anthony and Emmanuel Quickly don't end up on teams that have 2 MVP caliber players that command double teams at all times.

He still has to perform and make the shots. I’m not going to pretend having those two around him doesn’t help, but he was having a great season even before Harden. Mentioning those other guys just isn’t showing the proper respect to Maxey. We’re all wrong sometimes. Malik Monk plays with arguably the best player of all time and the guys around Coby White aren’t exactly chopped liver either.

Guys with the combined talent, attitude and work ethic of a Maxey aren’t available in any draft, that’s where you miscalculated.

You are right about the attitude. I can't can't tell whether a guy is going to be able to juggle having enough confidence, while being able to be humble enough to play with older Stars.

But talent, is different. There's nothing that Maxey can do that Colin Sexton, Cole Anthony or Malik Monk can't do physically, but they didn't start their careers playing alongside Hall of Famers. So I can't tell you that they wouldn't be able to do the same things, in stretches, that Maxey is doing during this stretch.
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Post#1018 » by Iverson Armband » Sat Mar 5, 2022 5:26 pm

LloydFree wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:
LloydFree wrote: :D No, get it right. I said you can get 6'2 SG's like him in any draft.

Now he's better than most, but I still believe that. Guys like Coby White, Malik Monk, Cole Anthony and Emmanuel Quickly don't end up on teams that have 2 MVP caliber players that command double teams at all times.

He still has to perform and make the shots. I’m not going to pretend having those two around him doesn’t help, but he was having a great season even before Harden. Mentioning those other guys just isn’t showing the proper respect to Maxey. We’re all wrong sometimes. Malik Monk plays with arguably the best player of all time and the guys around Coby White aren’t exactly chopped liver either.

Guys with the combined talent, attitude and work ethic of a Maxey aren’t available in any draft, that’s where you miscalculated.

You are right about the attitude. I can't can't tell whether a guy is going to be able to juggle having enough confidence, while being able to be humble enough to play with older Stars.

But talent, is different. There's nothing that Maxey can do that Colin Sexton, Cole Anthony or Malik Monk can't do physically, but they didn't start their careers playing alongside Hall of Famers. So I can't tell you that they wouldn't be able to do the same things, in stretches, that Maxey is doing during this stretch.

I hear you, but there’s a counter argument to that. You know, the whole “good stats, bad team” argument. Those players went to teams with all the opportunity in the world, all the shots, without anyone standing in their way and still couldn’t perform. So it’s tough to do anything but give Maxey his credit at this point.
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Post#1019 » by Kobblehead » Sat Mar 5, 2022 5:27 pm

LloydFree wrote:Do you think Springer is going to be good? I have to be honest, I wasn't really familiar with him pre-draft and I haven't seen anything special about his game or athletic ability.

I do, I think he's going to be a really good 4th or 5th guy.

I think he's an excellent secondary distributor. His athleticism is definitely underwhelming, but he has a nice power game with his dribble and good change of pace maneuverability. Also has great body control and touch in finishing through traffic despite playing under the rim. His game is going to age incredibly well because he's already honing things and establishing a playstyle that guys usually have to figure out in their late 20s/early 30s. He's also steady at the free throw line, shooting over 80% as a freshman and 77% in the G-League. Dependable guy that can play late in games.

Defensively, of course, is where he shines. Real strong. Excellent hands. Generates both steals and blocks at premier rates. He's not on Thybulle's level (nobody is), but he's about as good as it gets among the typical plus defender in the league.

I think he's very similar to Jalen Suggs. Given that Suggs is a better athlete, Springer will be viewed as the lite-version. I think Springer is going to be really good, though. If he develops a jumper, he'll ascend to the Jrue Holiday range and we'll really have something.
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Post#1020 » by Negrodamus » Sat Mar 5, 2022 6:28 pm

Per-36:
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February and March... I still feel like he's on a Bradley Beal trajectory, especially next to a great passer like Harden. It shouldn't be a surprise that Beal's best offensive season was playing with Russell Westbrook where he could focus on converting assists and beating his guy off the close out.


Anyway, I think those per-36 stats are going to outpace his rookie year by the end of this regular season judging by the way he's taking off right now.

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