2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft

Negrodamus · Post #1001 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Jun 10, 2022 3:10 am

stormi wrote:I take Tyty if he's sitting there at 23.

He can sorta be like what Fultz is in Orlando right now with his crafiness and superb playmaking, and he's a better defender and I trust his fundamentals to be a good shooter down the line.

He’s a fairly safe bet to at least be a role player. He’s a perfect pickup at 23, especially because there aren’t many players like him in that area. I think his numbers even took a dip this year after his leg injuries in the Auburn and Tennessee games. I wouldn’t be upset at all if we left this draft with him.

Arsenal · Post #1002 » by **Arsenal** » Fri Jun 10, 2022 4:14 am

Any thoughts on Quenton Jackson? He’s apparently 23 but the numbers look great.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/quenton-jackson-1.html

76ciology · Post #1003 » by **76ciology** » Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:46 am

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Lou_23 · Post #1004 » by **Lou_23** » Fri Jun 10, 2022 8:06 am

I dont like Kessler, third center in the NBA.

76ciology · Post #1005 » by **76ciology** » Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:50 am

Lou_23 wrote:I dont like Kessler, third center in the NBA.

I think he’s be perfect for late first to second round. A charles bassey/Paul Reed type pick. Realistically the BPA by 23rd.

For me to go hard after him, our scouts need to dig deep if he’s really agile/mobile and have to assess how good can he improve as a shooter.

76ciology · Post #1006 » by **76ciology** » Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:54 am

stormi wrote:I take Tyty if he's sitting there at 23.

He can sorta be like what Fultz is in Orlando right now with his crafiness and superb playmaking, and he's a better defender and I trust his fundamentals to be a good shooter down the line.

Yeah for sure.

Do you like Tyty over Lidell?

Negrodamus · Post #1007 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:26 am

I don’t think I’ve ever considered Kessler because his FT% is so bad. I feel like C that go into the draft with robust advanced analytics but can’t shoot for ****, then die out in the league. There’s obviously more that goes into it, but not being a disaster at the line is a prerequisite for me to even consider the prospect.

Kobblehead · Post #1008 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Jun 10, 2022 12:12 pm

TyTy is a good creator and defender, but I just don't think he's skilled enough. Kind of over insufficiently skilled Gs, tbh.

Kobblehead · Post #1009 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Jun 10, 2022 12:15 pm

Still think Bassey is a really good prospect. This is a good big draft, but I'm not really in the market for another bigman.

Kobblehead · Post #1010 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Jun 10, 2022 12:31 pm

Patrick Baldwin was one of my favorite highschool players pre-season, based on his youtube video. But then he had a trainwreck freshman year and now I don't even want him. With that in mind, how can someone sight unseen use a top 5 pick on Shaedon Sharpe based on the same scouting criteria? Man, that's a tough spot to be in, as a GM.

Kobblehead · Post #1011 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Jun 10, 2022 1:04 pm

Arsenal wrote:Any thoughts on Quenton Jackson? He’s apparently 23 but the numbers look great.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/quenton-jackson-1.html

I've made the comparison to Delon Wright. I think his age and body is identical to Wright's as a prospect. Also, like Wright, he's a strong defensive G with an acceptable offensive skill level. He'll probably be undrafted and land in the Miami Heat organization ha.

Negrodamus · Post #1012 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Jun 10, 2022 1:05 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Patrick Baldwin was one of my favorite highschool players pre-season, based on his youtube video. But then he had a trainwreck freshman year and now I don't even want him. With that in mind, how can someone sight unseen use a top 5 pick on Shaedon Sharpe based on the same scouting criteria? Man, that's a tough spot to be in, as a GM.

I'm curious if he's doing paired workouts against other prospects so they can at least see what he looks like in competition. Otherwise, I'd completely remove him from my board if I were a top ten team. It's not like 10 years down the road when he's a 7 time all star that everyone will say "how could these teams missed on such a great prospect?!" It's obvious why teams passed on him, his camp was being completely secretive and isolated. He's been a very annoying prospect, especially because I'm extremely biased as a UK fan.

Negrodamus · Post #1013 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Jun 10, 2022 1:18 pm

Arsenal wrote:Any thoughts on Quenton Jackson? He’s apparently 23 but the numbers look great.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/quenton-jackson-1.html

I've done a pretty good dive into both him and Tevin Brown. I think both of them have a place in the league. I'm going to guess they both get drafted despite most of the mocks overlooking them.

Kobblehead · Post #1014 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Jun 10, 2022 1:19 pm

I would assume he's not doing competitive workouts based on how guarded he's been about every other aspect of the process. He's got some major Ben Simmons vibes in regards to his entitlement/arrogance. The anonymous scouts seem frustrated, as well, because they've been tee'ing off on him for being so inaccessible.

stormi · Post #1015 » by **stormi** » Fri Jun 10, 2022 1:20 pm

76ciology wrote:
stormi wrote:I take Tyty if he's sitting there at 23.

He can sorta be like what Fultz is in Orlando right now with his crafiness and superb playmaking, and he's a better defender and I trust his fundamentals to be a good shooter down the line.

Yeah for sure.

Do you like Tyty over Lidell?

I think so, yea. Liddell confuses me a bit at the next level with his fit on both ends. He's like a small ball 5 and I don't trust his lateral mobility to be able to step out onto the perimeter against NBA guards. His jumper might not translate to the farther NBA line either, it looks pretty push and not fluid.

At his peak if he becomes a dependable catch and shoot big/wing that can protect the rim and guard the perimeter he's probably like an undersized Horford which is a good player.

76ciology · Post #1016 » by **76ciology** » Fri Jun 10, 2022 2:03 pm

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Kobblehead · Post #1017 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Jun 10, 2022 2:11 pm

Kamagate is a solid dunk and block guy, but he's not the most skilled and he'll be 22 before the allstar break next year. And these skinny 220 pound centers get bodied at the NBA level.

76ciology · Post #1018 » by **76ciology** » Fri Jun 10, 2022 2:22 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Kamagate is a solid dunk and block guy, but he's not the most skilled and he'll be 22 before the allstar break next year. And these skinny 220 pound centers get bodied at the NBA level.

No need for skill, we got that covered.

Our offense is Embiid-Harden, kick out to dunk and shooters.

What we need is a big that can play with Embiid. That big needs to do is to protect the paint and mobile enough to switch/step out to the perimeter, then just catch lobs.

I dont expect him to be ready next season. I dont see anyone in the draft at 23rd pick who can replace either Green or Tobi.

But in the future? Possibly Kamagate, Kessler or Lidell.

Kobblehead · Post #1019 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Jun 10, 2022 2:24 pm

Like Negro said, if you're making picks for future, why draft 21+ year olds? Get 19 year olds for superior upside percentage.

Kobblehead · Post #1020 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Jun 10, 2022 2:29 pm

Still think we have in-house guys better able to fill that position than guys in this draft.

It doesn't get much better in terms of rim protection and switchable on the perimeter from a PF than Paul Reed. And Bassey is a fantastic shotblock with some jumpshot potential.