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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#1021 » by Kobblehead » Sun Nov 6, 2016 8:45 pm

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XtremeDunkz wrote:Klay is not a top 15 player, let's be serious.

Not even close to it, either. And if one more national talking head comments on him being a good defender, I'm going to flip. He's extremely overrated.


So where would you rank Klay?

Not even Top 30. I'd have to go through a meticulous rundown for a specific placement.
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Post#1022 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Nov 6, 2016 9:02 pm

So I see both fan bases are talking about a Klay for Noel trade. Curious what you all think is a good even trade. One trade I am seeing over on our board is Klay for Noel and Saric. Whats your guys thought on that?
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Post#1023 » by ankle420breaker » Sun Nov 6, 2016 9:05 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:So I see both fan bases are talking about a Klay for Noel trade. Curious what you all think is a good even trade. One trade I am seeing over on our board is Klay for Noel and Saric. Whats your guys thought on that?

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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#1024 » by Kobblehead » Sun Nov 6, 2016 9:07 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:So I see both fan bases are talking about a Klay for Noel trade. Curious what you all think is a good even trade. One trade I am seeing over on our board is Klay for Noel and Saric. Whats your guys thought on that?

Anything for Noel is good, at this point. Trying to bleed us for an additional asset is not happening, though.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#1025 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Nov 6, 2016 9:09 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:So I see both fan bases are talking about a Klay for Noel trade. Curious what you all think is a good even trade. One trade I am seeing over on our board is Klay for Noel and Saric. Whats your guys thought on that?

Anything for Noel is good, at this point. Trying to bleed us for an additional asset is not happening, though.


Ya I know this trade would never happen, dont see a way Meyers gets rid of Klay. But the only way I think this trade would be thought about is if a 1st round pick is involved and I dont see that happening.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#1026 » by nbafan341 » Sun Nov 6, 2016 9:17 pm

Would you guys trade noel for the clippers first rounder in 2017 draft along with cory joseph?
This is from your divisional rival the raptors. Joseph is only 24 yrs old and is the best defender on the raptors but his 3pt shot is suspect at the moment and his contract has 3 morr yrs at 7 mil each. Its a bargain deal IMO, cheap contract, young player, veteran playoff experience, and the chance to be even better.

He isnt the best playmaker but with ben simmons coming i dont thjnk it matters. Joseph needs to work on making his 3s and I think he could eventuallly earn the stsrting PG spot and the defence on philly would be huge with Embiid and Joseph.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#1027 » by eagereyez » Sun Nov 6, 2016 9:19 pm

Kevistics wrote:Would you guys trade noel for the clippers first rounder in 2017 draft along with cory joseph?
This is from your divisional rival the raptors. Joseph is only 24 yrs old and is the best defender on the raptors but his 3pt shot is suspect at the moment and his contract has 3 morr yrs at 7 mil each. Its a bargain deal IMO, cheap contract, young player, veteran playoff experience, and the chance to be even better.

He isnt the best playmaker but with ben simmons coming i dont thjnk it matters. Joseph needs to work on making his 3s and I think he could eventuallly earn the stsrting PG spot and the defence on philly would be huge with Embiid and Joseph.

Simmons projects to be the primary ball-handler in the future, so the Sixers would want some shooters back. Powell/Wright/LAC 1st for Noel/Hollis would get it done imo.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#1028 » by TTP » Sun Nov 6, 2016 9:32 pm

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Kevistics wrote:Would you guys trade noel for the clippers first rounder in 2017 draft along with cory joseph?
This is from your divisional rival the raptors. Joseph is only 24 yrs old and is the best defender on the raptors but his 3pt shot is suspect at the moment and his contract has 3 morr yrs at 7 mil each. Its a bargain deal IMO, cheap contract, young player, veteran playoff experience, and the chance to be even better.

He isnt the best playmaker but with ben simmons coming i dont thjnk it matters. Joseph needs to work on making his 3s and I think he could eventuallly earn the stsrting PG spot and the defence on philly would be huge with Embiid and Joseph.

Simmons projects to be the primary ball-handler in the future, so the Sixers would want some shooters back. Powell/Wright/LAC 1st for Noel/Hollis would get it done imo.


Think that's asking too much and the salaries don't work.

Powell/Wright/Bruno for Noel works for salaries and then one of the sides can add a pick to make it even on value if necessary (likely the Sixers adding a second).
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#1029 » by eagereyez » Sun Nov 6, 2016 9:44 pm

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Kevistics wrote:Would you guys trade noel for the clippers first rounder in 2017 draft along with cory joseph?
This is from your divisional rival the raptors. Joseph is only 24 yrs old and is the best defender on the raptors but his 3pt shot is suspect at the moment and his contract has 3 morr yrs at 7 mil each. Its a bargain deal IMO, cheap contract, young player, veteran playoff experience, and the chance to be even better.

He isnt the best playmaker but with ben simmons coming i dont thjnk it matters. Joseph needs to work on making his 3s and I think he could eventuallly earn the stsrting PG spot and the defence on philly would be huge with Embiid and Joseph.

Simmons projects to be the primary ball-handler in the future, so the Sixers would want some shooters back. Powell/Wright/LAC 1st for Noel/Hollis would get it done imo.


Think that's asking too much and the salaries don't work.

Powell/Wright/Bruno for Noel works for salaries and then one of the sides can add a pick to make it even on value if necessary (likely the Sixers adding a second).

They'd want some backcourt depth back after giving up Wright and Powell, a 2nd doesn't help them beat the Cavs this year. Wright/Powell/Bruno for Noel/Thompson passes the trade machine.
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Post#1030 » by 76thBearCub » Sun Nov 6, 2016 9:50 pm

I'm am really unimpressed with these "prospects" from Toronto.

Looking silly how we all stuck our noses in the air on a Jeff Teague trade.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#1031 » by Unbreakable99 » Sun Nov 6, 2016 9:51 pm

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Kobblehead wrote:Not even close to it, either. And if one more national talking head comments on him being a good defender, I'm going to flip. He's extremely overrated.


So where would you rank Klay?

Not even Top 30. I'd have to go through a meticulous rundown for a specific placement.


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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#1032 » by 76thBearCub » Sun Nov 6, 2016 9:53 pm

Yea I don't care how meticulous your run down is your not talking anybody out of Klay being top 30.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#1033 » by sixers hoops » Sun Nov 6, 2016 9:54 pm

76thBearCub wrote:I'm am really unimpressed with these "prospects" from Toronto.

Looking silly how we all stuck our noses in the air on a Jeff Teague trade.


Don't want Teague. He will be due for an overpaid contract. Not a guy I want to commit to long term.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#1034 » by TTP » Sun Nov 6, 2016 9:58 pm

76thBearCub wrote:I'm am really unimpressed with these "prospects" from Toronto.

Looking silly how we all stuck our noses in the air on a Jeff Teague trade.


Jeff Teague has been awful so far this season and if we still want him, we have the option to sign him as a UFA after the season. I'd much rather have Powell and Wright on their rookie deals.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#1035 » by 76thBearCub » Sun Nov 6, 2016 10:05 pm

Haven't watched Teague this year. It's early enough I don't put hardly any value in what has happened yet. I wouldn't be willing to give him a huge contract either.

But he is a pretty good rotation player, way better then most of our guards. And those guys from Toronto don't impress me at all.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#1036 » by phiphan » Sun Nov 6, 2016 10:12 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:So I see both fan bases are talking about a Klay for Noel trade. Curious what you all think is a good even trade. One trade I am seeing over on our board is Klay for Noel and Saric. Whats your guys thought on that?


I'd be thrilled given the rumors of what we'd get in the Toronto trade.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#1037 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Nov 6, 2016 10:26 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:So I see both fan bases are talking about a Klay for Noel trade. Curious what you all think is a good even trade. One trade I am seeing over on our board is Klay for Noel and Saric. Whats your guys thought on that?


I'd do Noel/Stauskas/LAL pick for Klay/McGee/future 1st. Stauskas might actually be a great fit in GS TBH.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#1038 » by TTP » Sun Nov 6, 2016 10:27 pm

76thBearCub wrote:Haven't watched Teague this year. It's early enough I don't put hardly any value in what has happened yet. I wouldn't be willing to give him a huge contract either.

But he is a pretty good rotation player, way better then most of our guards. And those guys from Toronto don't impress me at all.


So if you aren't willing to give him a long term contract, you are just trading him for this year and letting him walk? This would be really poor from a success cycle perspective.

If you are intending to sign him, you're reducing our options for free agency over the next few years. With Embiid and Simmons, our team is going to start looking attractive for free agents over the next few summers. It would be a shame if we weren't able to make a play for a top 30 player because we had Jeff Teague locked up.

Furthermore, what do you like about Teague specifically? From my experience, the people that wanted us to trade for him have a really shallow understanding of his skillset and how he would affect our team situation. They like him because they've heard of him and know he made an All Star team. Then you see arguments that he'd be "a pretty good rotation player, way better than most of our guards." He'd need to be significantly better than that to be worth both the immediate and long-term investment.

Powell and Wright both have potential to be good rotation players as well. They're both young with upside, addressing current needs while not limiting future options. Powell has solid 3 and D upside (though I'm wary about his shooting being overrated) and would give us another wing prospect we badly need. Wright is hurt now but would be a significant upgrade over TJ. Analytics liked him as a prospect as he gets to the line a lot and shoots well there. He should be a plus defender and his free throw % indicates some shooting upside.

Edit: Powell and Wright both have multiple years remaining of team control. Both are on extremely cheap deals with team options and we'd have RFA rights.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#1039 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Nov 6, 2016 10:33 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:So I see both fan bases are talking about a Klay for Noel trade. Curious what you all think is a good even trade. One trade I am seeing over on our board is Klay for Noel and Saric. Whats your guys thought on that?


I'd do Noel/Stauskas/LAL pick for Klay/McGee/future 1st. Stauskas might actually be a great fit in GS TBH.


The LAL pick is top 3 protected right? Does it go unprotected if the pick is not given in 2017? I could see Noel/Saric/LAL pick.
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Re: Where is Nerlens? 

Post#1040 » by phiphan » Sun Nov 6, 2016 10:36 pm

Noel/Saric/LAL pick is too rich for my blood.

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