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Post#1021 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat Nov 4, 2017 6:38 am

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To think he was 1 rimmed out Covington 3 from starting his career with 3 triple doubles in his first 9 games. And I don't even feel like he has been as dominant as he can be.


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Post#1022 » by CoreyGallagher » Sat Nov 4, 2017 6:55 am

Last 6 games averaging 19.2 ppg (55.2 fg%), 9.5 rpg, and 9.3 apg.
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Post#1023 » by 76ciology » Sat Nov 4, 2017 6:59 am

Great quote by Simmons.
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Post#1024 » by Jams60 » Sat Nov 4, 2017 7:12 am

My first post here on. I’m an Aussie and whilst I have had a passing interest in NBA basketball and did play when younger, I haven’t ever got into in a big way.

Ben Simmons is changing that. I actually started looking at those Thon Maker mix tapes on You Tube, which led me to Ben 3years back. I watched as many of the LSU games as I could on cable in Oz, luckily most of them were broadcast.

I watched the draft and when the Sixers took Ben I started to read about the team, and The Process. I’m hooked and a believer btw. T- Shirts on order, When he got injured last year I was so disappointed and have been looking forward to this season ever since.
I apologise for getting onto the bandwagon now and not having to sit through the last decade but in my defence my rugby league team in Oz, South Sydney Rabbitohs, went 43 years between championships so I have suffered.

As for Ben’s start, wow! If he did nothing more for the rest of his career, except to repeat his stats from his first 8 rookie games,
18.5 pts 9.6 reb 7.9 assists .4 blk 1.5 where would that sit him as an NBA player?
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Post#1025 » by Dundalis » Sat Nov 4, 2017 7:44 am

I don't understand why they don't run way, way more plays to get Ben a clean look at that 15 foot elbow jumper. If guys wanna go under screens to protect the drive, have someone set a pick and have him shoot it. It looks good. He's hitting it at a good rate. He should be taking way more of them. The Pacers did a good job defensively collapsing on his drives. He goes through these long periods where he doesn't even look for offense and I think it's when teams do a good job defensively honing in on him and he can't drive to the hole as easily as usual. Hitting those jumpers will help open that up a bit while also allowing him to keep up the offensive production.
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Post#1026 » by 76ciology » Sat Nov 4, 2017 7:46 am

Jams60 wrote:My first post here on. I’m an Aussie and whilst I have had a passing interest in NBA basketball and did play when younger, I haven’t ever got into in a big way.

Ben Simmons is changing that. I actually started looking at those Thon Maker mix tapes on You Tube, which led me to Ben 3years back. I watched as many of the LSU games as I could on cable in Oz, luckily most of them were broadcast.

I watched the draft and when the Sixers took Ben I started to read about the team, and The Process. I’m hooked and a believer btw. T- Shirts on order, When he got injured last year I was so disappointed and have been looking forward to this season ever since.
I apologise for getting onto the bandwagon now and not having to sit through the last decade but in my defence my rugby league team in Oz, South Sydney Rabbitohs, went 43 years between championships so I have suffered.

As for Ben’s start, wow! If he did nothing more for the rest of his career, except to repeat his stats from his first 8 rookie games,
18.5 pts 9.6 reb 7.9 assists .4 blk 1.5 where would that sit him as an NBA player?


He will have to have more sample size to have a lasting legacy. :D

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Post#1027 » by crazy_me_87 » Sat Nov 4, 2017 10:30 am

14 Points 11 Rebounds 11 Assists 2 Steals and 3 Blocks.. And you know what the crazy thing is? It did almost feel like a "bad" Game because he had a off first half scoring wise. Thats how good this guy is.. Its insane.. 2 Triple doubles in his first 9 Games..

He takes this "he has an impact even when he has an off scoring night" thing to another level. After the first i looked at the Box Score and thought "meh 2 Points" but then i saw 5 Rebounds, 5 Assists 1 Steal and a block in one Quarter ..

He is averaging 18.8/ 9.2 / 9 during his last 5 ... He is a Rookie who looks like he seriously could average a Tripple double at least for a month.. THIS Season.. crazy.. oh and btw he is also upping his defense.. over the last 5 he is at 2 Steals and 1 Block..

It was the first Game where a Team did a good job of making his drives harder but he responded beautifully. Forced nothing.. took good shots in the 2nd Half.. and focused on everything else. Most of all i stay very impressed with his defense. all Stats say he is a very good defender already. A Deftrg of 104 a DBPM of 2.9 point to him already beeing an almost elite defender. He is one of those rare guys who really seem to be great on both ends. Its rare to have such an Offensive talent not be a defensive liability.
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Post#1028 » by LordCovington33 » Sat Nov 4, 2017 10:36 am

Jams60 wrote:My first post here on. I’m an Aussie and whilst I have had a passing interest in NBA basketball and did play when younger, I haven’t ever got into in a big way.

Ben Simmons is changing that. I actually started looking at those Thon Maker mix tapes on You Tube, which led me to Ben 3years back. I watched as many of the LSU games as I could on cable in Oz, luckily most of them were broadcast.

I watched the draft and when the Sixers took Ben I started to read about the team, and The Process. I’m hooked and a believer btw. T- Shirts on order, When he got injured last year I was so disappointed and have been looking forward to this season ever since.
I apologise for getting onto the bandwagon now and not having to sit through the last decade but in my defence my rugby league team in Oz, South Sydney Rabbitohs, went 43 years between championships so I have suffered.

As for Ben’s start, wow! If he did nothing more for the rest of his career, except to repeat his stats from his first 8 rookie games,
18.5 pts 9.6 reb 7.9 assists .4 blk 1.5 where would that sit him as an NBA player?


Supporting the Rabbitohs is a tough gig. My mum is a long-term fan and flew down to watch the preliminary final back in 2012. A Raiders fan myself.
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Post#1029 » by LloydFree » Sat Nov 4, 2017 10:39 am

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Ben Simmons is the man, but I wish people would stop comparing today's Triple doubles with Oscar's. The rules for assists were much different back then. No assists for long jumpers. Assist rules changed in the mid-80's
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Post#1030 » by Jams60 » Sat Nov 4, 2017 10:59 am

. Supporting the Rabbitohs is a tough gig. My mum is a long-term fan and flew down to watch the preliminary final back in 2012. A Raiders fan myself.


As you said the Bunnies are tough to follow, but the wait was worth it. I live in Canberra but not a great fan of the Raiders, the Rabbitohs love pre dates my move here by 20 plus years.

Looking forward to the Sixers growing year by year. With Simmo, JoJo and Fultzy together the sky will be the limit.

Gotta say I love the fan base, a lot of humour and passion involved. Love the catch cries, even thinking of adding a cat to the 3 dogs at home for the invariable wins. I read Hinkies resignation letter last year, the guy is a legend.

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Post#1031 » by Jams60 » Sat Nov 4, 2017 11:03 am

Would love for you to post here more often!


Thanks for the invite. I will be back.
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Post#1032 » by Jams60 » Sat Nov 4, 2017 11:19 am

The assist post before reminded me that as a fairly new fan to the game I still have a lot to learn as to the in the finer points. There was an assist today to Covington from Simmo that required him to take two bounces through traffic, a step and then a jumper to finish it off. Basically it seems that as long as you were the last to pass it you claim the assist?
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Post#1033 » by Dundalis » Sat Nov 4, 2017 12:40 pm

Jams60 wrote:The assist post before reminded me that as a fairly new fan to the game I still have a lot to learn as to the in the finer points. There was an assist today to Covington from Simmo that required him to take two bounces through traffic, a step and then a jumper to finish it off. Basically it seems that as long as you were the last to pass it you claim the assist?

No. I don't know if there's a hard and fast rule, but so long as the pass leads to a made basket where the player has reasonable continuation in his motion on the shot attempt or dribble drive to make the attempt, it will generally be recorded as an assist. If the player's motion is interrupted after the pass and he has to do an iso move to get his shot off, it generally shouldn't be an assist (things like quick shot fakes are usually allowed).
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Post#1034 » by OleSchool » Sat Nov 4, 2017 12:48 pm

Jams60 wrote:The assist post before reminded me that as a fairly new fan to the game I still have a lot to learn as to the in the finer points. There was an assist today to Covington from Simmo that required him to take two bounces through traffic, a step and then a jumper to finish it off. Basically it seems that as long as you were the last to pass it you claim the assist?


FIrst welcome to the board!

As to the assist question, here’s how I assume it should be, if I pass you the ball and you score immediately or within 2 steps (I have the ball, I see you running to the basket and then I pass it to you, you take 2 steps towards the rim and lay it up) that should be an assist. Now, the home scoring table is typically more lienent :lol:
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Post#1035 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat Nov 4, 2017 1:06 pm

crazy_me_87 wrote:14 Points 11 Rebounds 11 Assists 2 Steals and 3 Blocks.. And you know what the crazy thing is? It did almost feel like a "bad" Game because he had a off first half scoring wise. Thats how good this guy is.. Its insane.. 2 Triple doubles in his first 9 Games..

He takes this "he has an impact even when he has an off scoring night" thing to another level. After the first i looked at the Box Score and thought "meh 2 Points" but then i saw 5 Rebounds, 5 Assists 1 Steal and a block in one Quarter ..

He is averaging 18.8/ 9.2 / 9 during his last 5 ... He is a Rookie who looks like he seriously could average a Tripple double at least for a month.. THIS Season.. crazy.. oh and btw he is also upping his defense.. over the last 5 he is at 2 Steals and 1 Block..

It was the first Game where a Team did a good job of making his drives harder but he responded beautifully. Forced nothing.. took good shots in the 2nd Half.. and focused on everything else. Most of all i stay very impressed with his defense. all Stats say he is a very good defender already. A Deftrg of 104 a DBPM of 2.9 point to him already beeing an almost elite defender. He is one of those rare guys who really seem to be great on both ends. Its rare to have such an Offensive talent not be a defensive liability.


Simmons is getting his triple doubles within the flow of the offense. It doesn’t appear he’s hunting for stats like Westbrook did sometimes last year. Simmons’ triple doubles are helping us win. I don’t like assist hunting or teammates letting one get rebounds. Simmons did assist hunt on his first triple double but that was on the last assist. As well as Simmons is playing he needs to use open up more of his repotoire. That drive left then behind the back move is getting figured out by players. He needs to be more diverse when he drives.
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Post#1036 » by crazy_me_87 » Sat Nov 4, 2017 2:39 pm

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crazy_me_87 wrote:14 Points 11 Rebounds 11 Assists 2 Steals and 3 Blocks.. And you know what the crazy thing is? It did almost feel like a "bad" Game because he had a off first half scoring wise. Thats how good this guy is.. Its insane.. 2 Triple doubles in his first 9 Games..

He takes this "he has an impact even when he has an off scoring night" thing to another level. After the first i looked at the Box Score and thought "meh 2 Points" but then i saw 5 Rebounds, 5 Assists 1 Steal and a block in one Quarter ..

He is averaging 18.8/ 9.2 / 9 during his last 5 ... He is a Rookie who looks like he seriously could average a Tripple double at least for a month.. THIS Season.. crazy.. oh and btw he is also upping his defense.. over the last 5 he is at 2 Steals and 1 Block..

It was the first Game where a Team did a good job of making his drives harder but he responded beautifully. Forced nothing.. took good shots in the 2nd Half.. and focused on everything else. Most of all i stay very impressed with his defense. all Stats say he is a very good defender already. A Deftrg of 104 a DBPM of 2.9 point to him already beeing an almost elite defender. He is one of those rare guys who really seem to be great on both ends. Its rare to have such an Offensive talent not be a defensive liability.


Simmons is getting his triple doubles within the flaps of the offense. It doesn’t appear he’s hunting for stats like Westbrook did sometimes last year. Simmons’ triple doubles are helping us win. I don’t like assist hunting or teammates letting one get rebounds. Simmons did assist hunt on his first triple double but that was on the last assist. As well as Simmons is playing he needs to use open up more of his repotoire. That drive left then behind the back move is getting figured out by players. He needs to be more diverse when he drives.


Thats the part that Impresses me so much. Westbrooks tripple doubles where always kind of "meh" to me. He hunted for them and was also not very effecient.. Its amazing what he does but Ben's way of putting up those Stats without really forcing things is insane.

I never have seen a guy (and especially not a 21yo Rookie within his first 10 Games) who impacts the way he does without totally beeing the Ballhog.. He does all this within the flow of the Offense.. crazy

You are right this was the first Game (at least in the first half) where the defenders where able to cut off his drives. He adapted in the 2nd half. You are right he needs to show a bit more different drives and Moves. But i am very confident he will. He seems to be on Lebron/Magic level in terms of BBIQ.. he will adapt.

And after all this is how players grow.. They come into the NBA fresh and new and this explains some One Year wonders(Players who where great as Rookies and never where nearly as good ever again) think of Tyreke Evans or as you Sixers Fans will know too well Michael Carter Williams. The Great Players with high BBIQ and work ethic start to add new things to their Games once they see that defenders are getting used to them.
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Post#1037 » by Ericb5 » Sat Nov 4, 2017 3:17 pm

Jams60 wrote:My first post here on. I’m an Aussie and whilst I have had a passing interest in NBA basketball and did play when younger, I haven’t ever got into in a big way.

Ben Simmons is changing that. I actually started looking at those Thon Maker mix tapes on You Tube, which led me to Ben 3years back. I watched as many of the LSU games as I could on cable in Oz, luckily most of them were broadcast.

I watched the draft and when the Sixers took Ben I started to read about the team, and The Process. I’m hooked and a believer btw. T- Shirts on order, When he got injured last year I was so disappointed and have been looking forward to this season ever since.
I apologise for getting onto the bandwagon now and not having to sit through the last decade but in my defence my rugby league team in Oz, South Sydney Rabbitohs, went 43 years between championships so I have suffered.

As for Ben’s start, wow! If he did nothing more for the rest of his career, except to repeat his stats from his first 8 rookie games,
18.5 pts 9.6 reb 7.9 assists .4 blk 1.5 where would that sit him as an NBA player?


Welcome.

Hopefully lots of Australians turn into Sixers fans.

Has there ever been an nba team with two franchise level players that are from other countries? Off the top of my head I can’t think of one.




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Post#1038 » by Ericb5 » Sat Nov 4, 2017 3:21 pm

crazy_me_87 wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:
crazy_me_87 wrote:14 Points 11 Rebounds 11 Assists 2 Steals and 3 Blocks.. And you know what the crazy thing is? It did almost feel like a "bad" Game because he had a off first half scoring wise. Thats how good this guy is.. Its insane.. 2 Triple doubles in his first 9 Games..

He takes this "he has an impact even when he has an off scoring night" thing to another level. After the first i looked at the Box Score and thought "meh 2 Points" but then i saw 5 Rebounds, 5 Assists 1 Steal and a block in one Quarter ..

He is averaging 18.8/ 9.2 / 9 during his last 5 ... He is a Rookie who looks like he seriously could average a Tripple double at least for a month.. THIS Season.. crazy.. oh and btw he is also upping his defense.. over the last 5 he is at 2 Steals and 1 Block..

It was the first Game where a Team did a good job of making his drives harder but he responded beautifully. Forced nothing.. took good shots in the 2nd Half.. and focused on everything else. Most of all i stay very impressed with his defense. all Stats say he is a very good defender already. A Deftrg of 104 a DBPM of 2.9 point to him already beeing an almost elite defender. He is one of those rare guys who really seem to be great on both ends. Its rare to have such an Offensive talent not be a defensive liability.


Simmons is getting his triple doubles within the flaps of the offense. It doesn’t appear he’s hunting for stats like Westbrook did sometimes last year. Simmons’ triple doubles are helping us win. I don’t like assist hunting or teammates letting one get rebounds. Simmons did assist hunt on his first triple double but that was on the last assist. As well as Simmons is playing he needs to use open up more of his repotoire. That drive left then behind the back move is getting figured out by players. He needs to be more diverse when he drives.


Thats the part that Impresses me so much. Westbrooks tripple doubles where always kind of "meh" to me. He hunted for them and was also not very effecient.. Its amazing what he does but Ben's way of putting up those Stats without really forcing things is insane.

I never have seen a guy (and especially not a 21yo Rookie within his first 10 Games) who impacts the way he does without totally beeing the Ballhog.. He does all this within the flow of the Offense.. crazy

You are right this was the first Game (at least in the first half) where the defenders where able to cut off his drives. He adapted in the 2nd half. You are right he needs to show a bit more different drives and Moves. But i am very confident he will. He seems to be on Lebron/Magic level in terms of BBIQ.. he will adapt.

And after all this is how players grow.. They come into the NBA fresh and new and this explains some One Year wonders(Players who where great as Rookies and never where nearly as good ever again) think of Tyreke Evans or as you Sixers Fans will know too well Michael Carter Williams. The Great Players with high BBIQ and work ethic start to add new things to their Games once they see that defenders are getting used to them.


I don’t know that I agree with the triple double hunting criticism of Westbrook or anyone else really. You can’t fake your way to a triple double.

What happens sometimes is that someone is obviously a rebound or an assist away from a triple double in a game and his teammates sort of conspire to help him get it. That’s fine with me.

Westbrook deserves all of the credit in the world for his season last year.


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Post#1039 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat Nov 4, 2017 3:34 pm

crazy_me_87 wrote:
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crazy_me_87 wrote:14 Points 11 Rebounds 11 Assists 2 Steals and 3 Blocks.. And you know what the crazy thing is? It did almost feel like a "bad" Game because he had a off first half scoring wise. Thats how good this guy is.. Its insane.. 2 Triple doubles in his first 9 Games..

He takes this "he has an impact even when he has an off scoring night" thing to another level. After the first i looked at the Box Score and thought "meh 2 Points" but then i saw 5 Rebounds, 5 Assists 1 Steal and a block in one Quarter ..

He is averaging 18.8/ 9.2 / 9 during his last 5 ... He is a Rookie who looks like he seriously could average a Tripple double at least for a month.. THIS Season.. crazy.. oh and btw he is also upping his defense.. over the last 5 he is at 2 Steals and 1 Block..

It was the first Game where a Team did a good job of making his drives harder but he responded beautifully. Forced nothing.. took good shots in the 2nd Half.. and focused on everything else. Most of all i stay very impressed with his defense. all Stats say he is a very good defender already. A Deftrg of 104 a DBPM of 2.9 point to him already beeing an almost elite defender. He is one of those rare guys who really seem to be great on both ends. Its rare to have such an Offensive talent not be a defensive liability.


Simmons is getting his triple doubles within the flaps of the offense. It doesn’t appear he’s hunting for stats like Westbrook did sometimes last year. Simmons’ triple doubles are helping us win. I don’t like assist hunting or teammates letting one get rebounds. Simmons did assist hunt on his first triple double but that was on the last assist. As well as Simmons is playing he needs to use open up more of his repotoire. That drive left then behind the back move is getting figured out by players. He needs to be more diverse when he drives.


Thats the part that Impresses me so much. Westbrooks tripple doubles where always kind of "meh" to me. He hunted for them and was also not very effecient.. Its amazing what he does but Ben's way of putting up those Stats without really forcing things is insane.

I never have seen a guy (and especially not a 21yo Rookie within his first 10 Games) who impacts the way he does without totally beeing the Ballhog.. He does all this within the flow of the Offense.. crazy

You are right this was the first Game (at least in the first half) where the defenders where able to cut off his drives. He adapted in the 2nd half. You are right he needs to show a bit more different drives and Moves. But i am very confident he will. He seems to be on Lebron/Magic level in terms of BBIQ.. he will adapt.

And after all this is how players grow.. They come into the NBA fresh and new and this explains some One Year wonders(Players who where great as Rookies and never where nearly as good ever again) think of Tyreke Evans or as you Sixers Fans will know too well Michael Carter Williams. The Great Players with high BBIQ and work ethic start to add new things to their Games once they see that defenders are getting used to them.


Yeah. Simmons needs a counter to his behind the back move. He needs to have a fake behind the back move or something. And he probably needs a counter to his counter. But I’m very pleased with his play thus far.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread 

Post#1040 » by BasketballFan7 » Sat Nov 4, 2017 6:25 pm

I wrote on Simmons today. Let me know your thoughts! It's my third article, retweet if you like it. If you read it, thank you!

https://sircharlesincharge.com/2017/11/04/philadelphia-76ers-ben-simmons-deserves-attention/amp/
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