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Re: R2G7 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 14 330PM TNT 

Post#1021 » by TheBallsDeeper » Mon May 15, 2023 12:49 am

TheBallsDeeper wrote:Why take the starters out? They should have to stay out there and take their humiliating lose - not hide on the bench.

After that pathetic performance I hope the feel ashamed of themselves.

Just want to reiterate this. After giving up on the team they should have been made to stay out there, not hide behind others.
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Re: R2G7 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 14 330PM TNT 

Post#1022 » by TheBallsDeeper » Mon May 15, 2023 12:57 am

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FireMorey wrote:The one play to me that stood out more than any other was either the 2nd quarter or 3rd quarter(I honestly was barely paying attention to the game) where Embiid was one on one with Horford, he did a couple up and under fakes, Horford bit a little bit on it and Embiid had a clear path to dip under Horford and go right up for a scoop layup. Instead of spun back around for a difficult fadeaway and it got blocked.

Shows his mentality when he settled for that weak fadeaway.


For center his size, I do not get why he's become a fadeaway mid range shooter. It's **** weak.

KD & Kyrie can shoot much better than him and could not win 1 game vs this Celtics team last season.

If Embiid does not change his game, he will be a glorified regular season player for good.

Imgaine him taking it in and dunk it or just score under the basket, it opens up the offence so much. He can pass to a wide open shooter or score..

Him at the elbow bricking shots is exactly what Celtics wanted. And it never failed. Embiid is not getting past this Celtics team in the East. Tatum will forever own him.

Agree - except it's Horford who owns him.

Embiid is too scared to take it to the ring with Horford there that he settles for poor shots - one-legged fadeaways.

Remember a few years ago Embiid was so scared of facing Horford that the Sixers gave Horford a massive 3 year deal so Embbiid didn't have to face him???
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Re: R2G7 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 14 330PM TNT 

Post#1023 » by Ferry Avenue » Mon May 15, 2023 1:03 am

TheBallsDeeper wrote:Why take the starters out? They should have to stay out there and take their humiliating lose - not hide on the bench.

After that pathetic performance I hope the feel ashamed of themselves.

The series was lost when that happened in game 2.
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Re: R2G7 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 14 330PM TNT 

Post#1024 » by Ferry Avenue » Mon May 15, 2023 1:18 am

What kind of team comes out of the locker room of game 7 down three after the half and loses the third quarter 33-10.
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Re: R2G7 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 14 330PM TNT 

Post#1025 » by Sixercise » Mon May 15, 2023 1:25 am

All I can say is that Vegas remains mostly undefeated pbbbft.

This feels like the end of Revenge of the Sith - you see the inevitable coming, but not sure how egregious it is until it happens. I can no longer invest my time or interest in this squad until a culture change happens (beyond firing Rivers). Until then, deuces.
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Re: R2G7 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 14 330PM TNT 

Post#1026 » by FireMorey » Mon May 15, 2023 1:39 am

Horford actually hasn't owned Embiid statistically this year or lately. It's Embiid who owns himself. His bad games are games he dogs it. No one defender makes him struggle, he makes himself struggle. Which is why it's even more embarrassing because it's all on him and him alone.
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Post#1027 » by rocketsfan100 » Mon May 15, 2023 4:40 am

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I don't know if this was clipped out of context, but if not this is such a loser quote.

Not cool. Throwing Maxey under the bus is not cool bro
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Re: R2G7 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 14 330PM TNT 

Post#1028 » by Iverson Armband » Mon May 15, 2023 4:41 am

FireMorey wrote:Horford actually hasn't owned Embiid statistically this year or lately. It's Embiid who owns himself. His bad games are games he dogs it. No one defender makes him struggle, he makes himself struggle. Which is why it's even more embarrassing because it's all on him and him alone.

That’s BS. Horford is his daddy and sonned him multiple times this series.
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Re: R2G7 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 14 330PM TNT 

Post#1029 » by FireMorey » Mon May 15, 2023 4:50 am

Iverson Armband wrote:
FireMorey wrote:Horford actually hasn't owned Embiid statistically this year or lately. It's Embiid who owns himself. His bad games are games he dogs it. No one defender makes him struggle, he makes himself struggle. Which is why it's even more embarrassing because it's all on him and him alone.

That’s BS. Horford is his daddy and sonned him multiple times this series.

It’s not BS. He dropped 50+ on him earlier this year. He averaged 37 ppg this season vs Boston in the regular season. His regular season ppg average vs Horford is very high. Embiid owns him in the regular season. This is just playoffs Embiid being playoffs Embiid. He does this every playoffs regardless who’s guarding him. He did it last year vs the Heat in game 6. This is what he does in the playoffs.
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Post#1030 » by KL78192020 » Mon May 15, 2023 5:03 am

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FireMorey wrote:
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I don't know if this was clipped out of context, but if not this is such a loser quote.

Not cool. Throwing Maxey under the bus is not cool bro


Embiid is clueless, of course you can't win alone, but him and Harden are the two max players on this team making a tonne of money, you should be expected to do a lot more that Maxey and Tucker. Shooting a combined 8-30 from your two max players is never going to win no matter how good the other guys are.
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Re: R2G7 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 14 330PM TNT 

Post#1031 » by Jay555 » Mon May 15, 2023 5:03 am

FireMorey wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:
FireMorey wrote:Horford actually hasn't owned Embiid statistically this year or lately. It's Embiid who owns himself. His bad games are games he dogs it. No one defender makes him struggle, he makes himself struggle. Which is why it's even more embarrassing because it's all on him and him alone.

That’s BS. Horford is his daddy and sonned him multiple times this series.

It’s not BS. He dropped 50+ on him earlier this year. He averaged 37 ppg this season vs Boston in the regular season. His regular season ppg average vs Horford is very high. Embiid owns him in the regular season. This is just playoffs Embiid being playoffs Embiid. He does this every playoffs regardless who’s guarding him. He did it last year vs the Heat in game 6. This is what he does in the playoffs.


Regular season lol.

In this series, Biid was 30/81 when being guarded by Holford. 38.8% FG% and 15.4% 3P% plus 10 turn overs.

Holford sonned him big time.
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Post#1032 » by Iverson Armband » Mon May 15, 2023 5:04 am

FireMorey wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:
FireMorey wrote:Horford actually hasn't owned Embiid statistically this year or lately. It's Embiid who owns himself. His bad games are games he dogs it. No one defender makes him struggle, he makes himself struggle. Which is why it's even more embarrassing because it's all on him and him alone.

That’s BS. Horford is his daddy and sonned him multiple times this series.

It’s not BS. He dropped 50+ on him earlier this year. He averaged 37 ppg this season vs Boston in the regular season. His regular season ppg average vs Horford is very high. Embiid owns him in the regular season. This is just playoffs Embiid being playoffs Embiid. He does this every playoffs regardless who’s guarding him. He did it last year vs the Heat in game 6. This is what he does in the playoffs.

At this point I’m not interested in regular season statistics.

I know he’s Al Horford but give him some credit. He had Embiid shaking like a hooker in church plenty of times this series because he kept swatting his chit back in his face. Embiid wanted no parts for major stretches. Never saw a shrivel job to that level in any previous series.
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Re: R2G7 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 14 330PM TNT 

Post#1033 » by FireMorey » Mon May 15, 2023 5:18 am

Jay555 wrote:
FireMorey wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:That’s BS. Horford is his daddy and sonned him multiple times this series.

It’s not BS. He dropped 50+ on him earlier this year. He averaged 37 ppg this season vs Boston in the regular season. His regular season ppg average vs Horford is very high. Embiid owns him in the regular season. This is just playoffs Embiid being playoffs Embiid. He does this every playoffs regardless who’s guarding him. He did it last year vs the Heat in game 6. This is what he does in the playoffs.


Regular season lol.

In this series, Biid was 30/81 when being guarded by Holford. 38.8% FG% and 15.4% 3P% plus 10 turn overs.

Holford sonned him big time.


Embiid did it to himself, this is what he does in the playoffs. It had nothing to do with who was guarding him and he was playing on a torn LCL.

The original reply was to the statement “Horford owns him.” Which is factually and statistically inaccurate. It is accurate to say that regardless of opponent, Embiid performs worse in the playoffs than he does regular season. This has nothing to do with Al Horford. If Al Horford didn’t play in this series the results would’ve been the same. We saw it last year vs Adebayo. We saw it years back vs Gasol. This is just playoff Embiid. Pushing this narrative is letting him off the hook for coming up small. Isn’t it funny how every playoffs he always seems to go up against someone he “struggles against” except he only seems to struggle against them in the playoffs? Funny how that is.
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Post#1034 » by Mik317 » Mon May 15, 2023 5:38 am

he is often very predictable.

in a playoff series teams can zone in on those things. Horford got the timing of his jumper down and the team beat him to his spot on many drives which lead to TOs

someone needs to tell him to catch and go which would be much harder to stop but too often he catches the ball, pump fakes and allows the defense to get set so the above will happen more. Also think he needs to become less of a rhythm dribble shooter...when his legs get tired thats why those shots stop falling too. Extending his range to be an actual threat also would be nice. Basically he has to find more ways to score than slow middies and foul grifting. Works in the regular season but is too predictable in the post season...just like the post ups were. The nail shots was a great addition but once teams knew that they just pushed him out or prevented him from catching.

again a better coach MIGHT help here or at least a coach who will get into him and not coddle him....idk.
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Re: R2G7 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 14 330PM TNT 

Post#1035 » by phillynative » Mon May 15, 2023 12:02 pm

Mik317 wrote:he is often very predictable.

in a playoff series teams can zone in on those things. Horford got the timing of his jumper down and the team beat him to his spot on many drives which lead to TOs

someone needs to tell him to catch and go which would be much harder to stop but too often he catches the ball, pump fakes and allows the defense to get set so the above will happen more. Also think he needs to become less of a rhythm dribble shooter...when his legs get tired thats why those shots stop falling too. Extending his range to be an actual threat also would be nice. Basically he has to find more ways to score than slow middies and foul grifting. Works in the regular season but is too predictable in the post season...just like the post ups were. The nail shots was a great addition but once teams knew that they just pushed him out or prevented him from catching.

again a better coach MIGHT help here or at least a coach who will get into him and not coddle him....idk.


I believe this also plays a part . When your game is already predictable going into a series where you have to play a team 4-7 times it makes it that much more predictable. I think you can say the same for Harden who also has a predictable offensive game.
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Post#1036 » by Jailblazers7 » Mon May 15, 2023 12:42 pm

I don’t care if that clip was out of context. The fact that he was talking about anyone but himself is enough for me to write him off. If Joel were a real deal MVP, we win that series in 5 or 6. He should be ashamed of himself after the effort he gave in a game 7. The words “basketball is played 5 on 5” shouldn’t even be running through his head.

I’m personally done with the guy. It’s one thing to lose but another thing to quit & mentally collapse year after year. I’ll keep watching because I love basketball & Tyrese Maxey but I no longer care if Embiid is on this team or not.
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Post#1037 » by 76ciology » Mon May 15, 2023 3:11 pm

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Re: R2G7 - 76ers vs Celtics - May 14 330PM TNT 

Post#1038 » by Negrodamus » Mon May 15, 2023 3:28 pm

I don't think Al took him out of the game, it was the game plan. Embiid is probably looking at Robert Williams as the problem here in that clip. He can usually get what he wants in one on one scenarios against Horford. Sure Horford wins sometimes, but Embiid frequently imposes his will. When Williams is the weakside blocker, then Embiid will get obliterated on any attempt at the basket.

They don't call fouls like they used to for big men (particularly in the playoffs), so it's not like he can even go foul baiting in that situation.

The real issue here? Harden won't make the team pay for focusing on Embiid and having two centers on the court for large parts of the game. Tobias actually did a few times, but we all know he's not going to win the game for us. If guys aren't hitting and the defense is centered around nullifying Embiid, the whole purpose of Harden is to cook them when he gets guys one on one.

Unfortunately for Harden, he doesn't have the same athleticism, he's not generating the same foul calls he once did, and he's wildly inconsistent in his big performances these days. He was completely content with letting the role players win us game 7. Sorry, doesn't work that way. And it hurts even more since he needs to have his hands on the ball all the time.
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Post#1039 » by Mik317 » Mon May 15, 2023 3:44 pm

most of those are shots he can make. Just missed them

but it is exactly the problem..those are tough contested makes. Can't live off of those and especially when you take forever to get to them
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Post#1040 » by the_process » Mon May 15, 2023 3:50 pm

Listen, this is very simple.

Some guys are clutch, and some are not.

As summed up by Boston fans after Game 5: "Our only hope is if they outchoke us."

Outchoked, indeed.

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