Sixers Offseason Thread Part 5

[76ciology]

This talk about load management is premature. We need to focus on building team chemistry and locking in the right schemes first. Once we’re dialed in and the system is tight, that’s when load management can be a conversation. Right now, it feels immature, like we’re assuming we’re contenders purely based on talent and we can win the championship just by being healthy

[FlyingArrow]

This talk about load management is premature. We need to focus on building team chemistry and locking in the right schemes first. Once we’re dialed in and the system is tight, that’s when load management can be a conversation. Right now, it feels immature, like we’re assuming we’re contenders purely based on talent and we can win the championship just by being healthy

It's more along the lines of... we CAN'T win the tournament if we aren't healthy. We also can't build chemistry among our big 3 while one of them is injured.

[76ciology]

This talk about load management is premature. We need to focus on building team chemistry and locking in the right schemes first. Once we’re dialed in and the system is tight, that’s when load management can be a conversation. Right now, it feels immature, like we’re assuming we’re contenders purely based on talent and we can win the championship just by being healthy

It's more along the lines of... we CAN'T win the tournament if we aren't healthy. We also can't build chemistry among our big 3 while one of them is injured.

Mine is..

Build chemistry first, then focus on load management later.

[Sixerscan]

There's only 3 back to backs between now and 1/1 so there should be minimal load management in the first chunk of the year.

Assuming health of course like if George isn't ready to go a week from now he's not playing.

Do think both of them (and Lowry and Gordon) will sit also out a few random games in the beginning.

Following the wrong team if you don't want load management talk lol. Get used to it.

[Wilfried]

I would try to 'load manage' the air miles, not specifically the games.

It's all the travelling (between times zones etc) that weares the body out, not per sé playing 2 nights in a row 30 minutes of basketball.
Hence, I sometimes think it's best to keep the body drifting instead of rusting. But for fewer minutes.

I see some games (like @Portland, Minnesota, Utah, ...) that I would skip, just for the sake of not travelling all the time

[76ciology]

Back to Backs
2023-2024: 14
2024-2025: 15

12 of 15 back to backs, after January 2025.

[ivysixer2000]

I understand the talk for back to backs but I will not accept the talks prematurely about it.

I do see it obviously with Jojo, but PG8 played 74 games last year. I think it is a bit premature to put him on load management just as he has said its not a major injury.

You play to win games, not to bubble wrap players. We have to bubble wrap Jojo a bit, but PG8 doesn't strike me as that type of guy even at his age. Let him play, I don't think this injury should call for all of this talk of load management.

[LeonJordanJr24]

Last game I sawDrummond throw down a monster alley from maxey and I say him block shots. What game was yall watching ,?

[eyeatoma]

I understand the talk for back to backs but I will not accept the talks prematurely about it.

I do see it obviously with Jojo, but PG8 played 74 games last year. I think it is a bit premature to put him on load management just as he has said its not a major injury.

You play to win games, not to bubble wrap players. We have to bubble wrap Jojo a bit, but PG8 doesn't strike me as that type of guy even at his age. Let him play, I don't think this injury should call for all of this talk of load management.

Prior to last season PG didn't play atleast 60 games for 5 years.

He is one of the most injury prone players in the league.

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[Black Mage]

Well Joel did mention he is not worried about the regular season accolades. And my math could be wrong but each one of them could alternate on back to backs and PG would miss 7 games and Embiid would miss 8. Which still gives them breathing room for more rest. I like your idea.

Yeah, unfortunately, that's not the math. There are 15 games that come the night after another game. So 30 of the games that appear in 15 back-to-back pairs.

Thank you very much sir.

To be fair, Joel's injuries, especially for his knee, have come the most when he's driving the lane or trying to do a big dunk. I'm not sure how much, if at all, his recent knee injuries are due to playing time.

If anything, I feel like overplaying him extended stretches where he gets gassed and thus becomes less crisp and controlled in his body movements poses a greater risk.

[Black Mage]

There's only 3 back to backs between now and 1/1 so there should be minimal load management in the first chunk of the year.

Assuming health of course like if George isn't ready to go a week from now he's not playing.

Do think both of them (and Lowry and Gordon) will sit also out a few random games in the beginning.

Following the wrong team if you don't want load management talk lol. Get used to it.

The only reason Joel should be "load managed" is if his knee is in a degenerative state. Last year, he tore his meniscus not because of a B2B or being played too many minutes; but because a player fell atop his leg. In the playoffs, he's injured his knee because a player falls into his leg.

No amount of "load management" is going to remove that risk. Probably the best protection is having an "enforcer" on your team so other teams' players know you try to go low on Joel and our guy is taking out your star too. It's old school mentality, but I've seen enough, especially in the playoffs, to know I've seen enough opposing players try to take out Joel's legs.

[Sixerscan]

There's only 3 back to backs between now and 1/1 so there should be minimal load management in the first chunk of the year.

Assuming health of course like if George isn't ready to go a week from now he's not playing.

Do think both of them (and Lowry and Gordon) will sit also out a few random games in the beginning.

Following the wrong team if you don't want load management talk lol. Get used to it.

The only reason Joel should be "load managed" is if his knee is in a degenerative state. Last year, he tore his meniscus not because of a B2B or being played too many minutes; but because a player fell atop his leg. In the playoffs, he's injured his knee because a player falls into his leg.

No amount of "load management" is going to remove that risk. Probably the best protection is having an "enforcer" on your team so other teams' players know you try to go low on Joel and our guy is taking out your star too. It's old school mentality, but I've seen enough, especially in the playoffs, to know I've seen enough opposing players try to take out Joel's legs.

I think they're actually pretty sure he tore his meniscus before that game and Kuminga falling on it was just what inflamed it to the point that they felt a need to get an MRI? He missed the Denver game right before that and then spent that entire GSW game walking around like a mummy. He'd been having knee stuff for a while, I think it first came up in that Knicks game earlier that month.

IDK about degenerative but he's had multiple snips of his meniscus at this point it might be. Or they see that new extension and want to hold off on it becoming so for as long as possible.

The other part of it is they're making him wear the brace all the time now they're clearly worried about something happening.

[Black Mage]

There's only 3 back to backs between now and 1/1 so there should be minimal load management in the first chunk of the year.

Assuming health of course like if George isn't ready to go a week from now he's not playing.

Do think both of them (and Lowry and Gordon) will sit also out a few random games in the beginning.

Following the wrong team if you don't want load management talk lol. Get used to it.

The only reason Joel should be "load managed" is if his knee is in a degenerative state. Last year, he tore his meniscus not because of a B2B or being played too many minutes; but because a player fell atop his leg. In the playoffs, he's injured his knee because a player falls into his leg.

No amount of "load management" is going to remove that risk. Probably the best protection is having an "enforcer" on your team so other teams' players know you try to go low on Joel and our guy is taking out your star too. It's old school mentality, but I've seen enough, especially in the playoffs, to know I've seen enough opposing players try to take out Joel's legs.

I think they're actually pretty sure he tore his meniscus before that game and Kuminga falling on it was just what inflamed it to the point that they felt a need to get an MRI? He missed the Denver game right before that and then spent that entire GSW game walking around like a mummy. He'd been having knee stuff for a while, I think it first came up in that Knicks game earlier that month.

IDK about degenerative but he's had multiple snips of his meniscus at this point it might be. Or they see that new extension and want to hold off on it becoming so for as long as possible.

The other part of it is they're making him wear the brace all the time now they're clearly worried about something happening.

Good points. I forgot the fall was the aggravating factor. I went back and looked at the Knicks injury; it came as he went up strong for a dunk and he came down on one leg. I still feel no amount of management would prevent that from happening. Joel would do well to study and model his game after Tim Duncan.

[Mik317]

KJ is a guy who has all the tools we need at the spot but the results isnt there.

[Mik317]

Gordon is built like a fire hydrant

[Mik317]

having actual wing athletes is going to be nice

[Mik317]

Council is probably going to be the next Joe

Don't think Nurse likes him at all lol

[Sixerscan]

Council is probably going to be the next Joe

Don't think Nurse likes him at all lol

That first half run for him was rough

[M2J]

I wish the Sixers would handle reports better. This plan with Joel could've and still could be better disclosed as opposed to pretending he may play in preseason when he never was... And perhaps a plan for George even prior to this knee situation.

I agree with 76.... They need to prioritize getting into rhythm at the beginning of the season. They can manage George's bruise early too, and miss some games, but they certainly need to play together and figure out this team.

[Black Mage]

I've liked what I have seen from Edwards and Martin, Jr. Hope they get some consistent development minutes throughout the season.