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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#1041 » by nurseryc » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:48 am

Ericb5 wrote:Embiid is the best player the Sixers have had since the Doc and Moses teams, and people continually talk about trading him.

It honestly makes me want to read the general board instead of the Sixers board. This board is so emotional and negative.


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Correction Embiid is the best player the Sixers have had up until Simmons arrival.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#1042 » by cool93 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:52 am

nurseryc wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:Embiid is the best player the Sixers have had since the Doc and Moses teams, and people continually talk about trading him.

It honestly makes me want to read the general board instead of the Sixers board. This board is so emotional and negative.


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Correction Embiid is the best player the Sixers have had up until Simmons arrival.


I am wondering, do you guys not look at Sixers half court offence against good teams?
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#1043 » by nurseryc » Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:03 am

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nurseryc wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:Embiid is the best player the Sixers have had since the Doc and Moses teams, and people continually talk about trading him.

It honestly makes me want to read the general board instead of the Sixers board. This board is so emotional and negative.


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Correction Embiid is the best player the Sixers have had up until Simmons arrival.


I am wondering, do you guys not look at Sixers half court offence against good teams?


Yes. I think Embiid holds ball movement up and slows the game down. Great talent but effectively restricts Sixers maximising Ben’s skillset and the incredible run and gun play he could offer with the right players around him, even switching Embiid for a center more accustomed to that style of play that is defensive minded. Making Sixers legit championship contenders.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#1044 » by eyeatoma » Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:17 am

Ericb5 wrote:Embiid is the best player the Sixers have had since the Doc and Moses teams, and people continually talk about trading him.

It honestly makes me want to read the general board instead of the Sixers board. This board is so emotional and negative.


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The board is starting to become split. The Embiid fans, and the Simmons fans. There are some that like both, but at present when one has a bad game, or is injured, the other side comes out in droves demanding a trade.

You're right. The board has become toxic.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#1045 » by Bum Adebayo » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:24 pm

cool93 wrote:
nurseryc wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:Embiid is the best player the Sixers have had since the Doc and Moses teams, and people continually talk about trading him.

It honestly makes me want to read the general board instead of the Sixers board. This board is so emotional and negative.


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Correction Embiid is the best player the Sixers have had up until Simmons arrival.


I am wondering, do you guys not look at Sixers half court offence against good teams?


Yeah, I do, Embiid getting owned by Horford you mean? because this is a clear issue, we are forcing the offense through him but he fails to deliver against certain centers and double teams. And this is not small sample size, it has happened too many times, one cannot expect to keep trying the same and expect different results.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#1046 » by Mik317 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:41 pm

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kuclas wrote:
Ben sat out entire year. If u had a broken foot for months. U would at least take standing shots. It’s so obvious he never worked on it. Even this past off season. Ben while improved in the low post. I dunno if it’s something he will ever learn to do consistently. (Shoot the ball spot up jump shot). Cause he’s 6 10. He can make up for a lot of his lack of shooting touch. But he needs to gain more strength if he wants to pound it down low. But risk losing his quickness


Troll or not, facts will never be ignored in this age of media narrative. Ben DOES NOT SHOOT, this is a fact. People arguing whether he can or can not shoot, OR, can he learn to shoot?! They ignore the fact HE REFUSES TO SHOOT A BASKETBALL this is something even a 5 year old does :banghead:


Wrong, he has tried to shoot in some games this season, it is not the same as last season, also his turnaround jumper is much improved. To me this is progress and very encouraging.

Ben has made like 2 of those shots all year...

come on man.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#1047 » by ankle420breaker » Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:14 pm

Ericb5 wrote:Embiid is the best player the Sixers have had since the Doc and Moses teams, and people continually talk about trading him.

It honestly makes me want to read the general board instead of the Sixers board. This board is so emotional and negative.


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But his knee is sore. He has to go.

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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#1048 » by sixerswillrule » Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:51 pm

Jhawk03 wrote:
kuclas wrote:
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I admit I was wrong, I thought he was a super talented kid with zero work ethic, but then he started to try to shoot in some games and realized he is not lazy, he is just being coached wrong and not having a shooting coach is terrible for his progress.
I hated him because I thought he was coasting on talent, not for his play style.


Ben sat out entire year. If u had a broken foot for months. U would at least take standing shots. It’s so obvious he never worked on it. Even this past off season. Ben while improved in the low post. I dunno if it’s something he will ever learn to do consistently. (Shoot the ball spot up jump shot). Cause he’s 6 10. He can make up for a lot of his lack of shooting touch. But he needs to gain more strength if he wants to pound it down low. But risk losing his quickness


Troll or not, facts will never be ignored in this age of media narrative. Ben DOES NOT SHOOT, this is a fact. People arguing whether he can or can not shoot, OR, can he learn to shoot?! They ignore the fact HE REFUSES TO SHOOT A BASKETBALL this is something even a 5 year old does :banghead:


Yup and when he does shoot it's not good.

13/65 on jumpers for the season.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#1049 » by rzzzzz » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:16 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:
Yeah, I do, Embiid getting owned by Horford you mean? because this is a clear issue, we are forcing the offense through him but he fails to deliver against certain centers and double teams. And this is not small sample size, it has happened too many times, one cannot expect to keep trying the same and expect different results.


Horford is a really fine defensive player, but he s well coached, and plays in a well wrought defensive scheme that neutralizes Embiids comfort zone. Our staff needs to make some serious adjustments in response before the playoffs. I doubt there is another coach in the league who wouldn't like to take a shot at implementing Embiid. (though Denver might be pretty satisfied.)
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#1050 » by kuclas » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:20 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:
cool93 wrote:
nurseryc wrote:
Correction Embiid is the best player the Sixers have had up until Simmons arrival.


I am wondering, do you guys not look at Sixers half court offence against good teams?


Yeah, I do, Embiid getting owned by Horford you mean? because this is a clear issue, we are forcing the offense through him but he fails to deliver against certain centers and double teams. And this is not small sample size, it has happened too many times, one cannot expect to keep trying the same and expect different results.


Is it embiid getting owned by horford. Or is it Simmons is owned by Celtics?

Seems to me. Celtics use cheat man (Morris in last game) to help quasi fake double team when they sag off Simmons.

It seems TJ with embiid vs the Celtics the offense runs better even if the defense suffers with TJ in there.
Cause tj is able to dribble to the basket In half court and eithe pull up for 8-10 foot jump shot.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#1051 » by Kova » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:37 am

Is he supposed to play in OKC? It's a blowout if he doesn't, and we can't afford any more blowouts at this point in season.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#1052 » by kuclas » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:53 pm

Kova wrote:Is he supposed to play in OKC? It's a blowout if he doesn't, and we can't afford any more blowouts at this point in season.


This seems like scheduled rest for embiid. They are resting him and using injury as a rouse so the nba doesn’t fine sixers.

His knee is sore. I don’t doubt that. He’s played a ton of minutes for a guy who’s never played this many games and minutes in a season up to this point.

But all signs point to him playing against okc.

His body can’t take the wear and tear of the nba 82 game season. I think embiid playing 65-70 games a season is the best we should expect moving forward.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#1053 » by the_process » Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:57 pm

kuclas wrote:
Kova wrote:Is he supposed to play in OKC? It's a blowout if he doesn't, and we can't afford any more blowouts at this point in season.


This seems like scheduled rest for embiid. They are resting him and using injury as a rouse so the nba doesn’t fine sixers.

His knee is sore. I don’t doubt that. He’s played a ton of minutes for a guy who’s never played this many games and minutes in a season up to this point.

But all signs point to him playing against okc.

His body can’t take the wear and tear of the nba 82 game season. I think embiid playing 65-70 games a season is the best we should expect moving forward.


Embiid at 65 games plus the playoffs is exactly what should happen. Might be able to lengthen his career that way too.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#1054 » by Chris76 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:02 am

kuclas wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:
cool93 wrote:
I am wondering, do you guys not look at Sixers half court offence against good teams?


Yeah, I do, Embiid getting owned by Horford you mean? because this is a clear issue, we are forcing the offense through him but he fails to deliver against certain centers and double teams. And this is not small sample size, it has happened too many times, one cannot expect to keep trying the same and expect different results.


Is it embiid getting owned by horford. Or is it Simmons is owned by Celtics?

Seems to me. Celtics use cheat man (Morris in last game) to help quasi fake double team when they sag off Simmons.

It seems TJ with embiid vs the Celtics the offense runs better even if the defense suffers with TJ in there.
Cause tj is able to dribble to the basket In half court and eithe pull up for 8-10 foot jump shot.


Embiid getting the ball 15ft away and Horford's very good defense is a bad matchup. Morris or Tatum doubles Embiid and often he gets his drives blocked.

An Embiid and Simmons post play should be ran. Simmons sets a screen for Embiid to get great post position. Butler can decide who gets better post position or he can shoot himself. JJ and Harris ready for 3s.

A simple play that the Sixers should find favorable matchups to exploit. If Simmons' defender cheats, then a play that gets Embiid or Simmons deep post position could be very rewarding.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#1055 » by kuclas » Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:52 am

Chris76 wrote:
kuclas wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:
Yeah, I do, Embiid getting owned by Horford you mean? because this is a clear issue, we are forcing the offense through him but he fails to deliver against certain centers and double teams. And this is not small sample size, it has happened too many times, one cannot expect to keep trying the same and expect different results.


Is it embiid getting owned by horford. Or is it Simmons is owned by Celtics?

Seems to me. Celtics use cheat man (Morris in last game) to help quasi fake double team when they sag off Simmons.

It seems TJ with embiid vs the Celtics the offense runs better even if the defense suffers with TJ in there.
Cause tj is able to dribble to the basket In half court and eithe pull up for 8-10 foot jump shot.


Embiid getting the ball 15ft away and Horford's very good defense is a bad matchup. Morris or Tatum doubles Embiid and often he gets his drives blocked.

An Embiid and Simmons post play should be ran. Simmons sets a screen for Embiid to get great post position. Butler can decide who gets better post position or he can shoot himself. JJ and Harris ready for 3s.

A simple play that the Sixers should find favorable matchups to exploit. If Simmons' defender cheats, then a play that gets Embiid or Simmons deep post position could be very rewarding.


That is all on coaching and player discipline. Simmons has to flash to the rim immediately once he sees the defender cheat over to do the fake/semi fake embiid double team

But embiid has to make the quicker read and pass the ball. This opens up the floor a lot.

But sadly. I don’t see embiid and Simmons on the same page. In this case. 90% of the blame is on embiid. I’ve seen Simmons wide open near the paint. But embiid fails to recognize Simmons is wide open. He gets tunnel vision when he’s 15 feet out trying to get to the paint.

I think brad Stevens recognizes embiid tendencies. He’s ok with embiid getting his points cause he knows it will be hard earn points. Once embiid (if he ever figures it out) to pass the ball quicker if he’s too far out in the mid post to the flashing Simmons. Stevens will employ another tactic. But right now the tactic keeps working.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#1056 » by Ben Simmons » Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:50 pm

Kova wrote:Is he supposed to play in OKC? It's a blowout if he doesn't, and we can't afford any more blowouts at this point in season.

without Embiid last season we won at Utah, at Denver, at Charlotte, at Detroit, also beat Miami, Cleveland, Milwaukee (by 35, including 46-18 1st quarter), and in the playoffs we beat Miami by 27, and now with the additions of Butler and Harris we can surely beat OKC :onfire:
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#1057 » by PhillyPhilly » Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:32 pm

It's interesting to hear that Giannis didn't play yesterday due to a sore knee too. Could this be a big man thing?
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#1058 » by XtremeDunkz » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:39 pm

Heidi4Ben wrote:
Kova wrote:Is he supposed to play in OKC? It's a blowout if he doesn't, and we can't afford any more blowouts at this point in season.

without Embiid last season we won at Utah, at Denver, at Charlotte, at Detroit, also beat Miami, Cleveland, Milwaukee (by 35, including 46-18 1st quarter), and in the playoffs we beat Miami by 27, and now with the additions of Butler and Harris we can surely beat OKC :onfire:


lol, last year Utah, Denver, Charlotte, and Detroit simply were not good. Miami and Milwaukee also weren't great. People romanticize that stretch but we played a very easy schedule.
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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#1059 » by ankle420breaker » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:52 pm

PhillyPhilly wrote:It's interesting to hear that Giannis didn't play yesterday due to a sore knee too. Could this be a big man thing?
Milwaukee should trade Giannis for someone more durable.

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Re: Joel Embiid - The Prophecy is Realized 

Post#1060 » by gdog2004 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:00 pm

Is Embiid playing Thursday ?

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