2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft

stormi · Post #1041 » by **stormi** » Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:30 am

Seeing a bunch of teams in our range hosting draft workouts and bringing players in for closer eval. Even teams like Boston, Toronto and the Clippers (currently) without a top 30 pick are flying guys out.

The Sixers have been pretty tight lipped on that regard.

I wonder if it's more likely that we just don't intend on keeping the pick at all, or we were the team at the combine that gave a promise out to LaRavia.

76ciology · Post #1042 » by **76ciology** » Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:03 am

stormi wrote:
76ciology wrote:
stormi wrote:Locking in on Wendell Moore at #23.

- 6'5 w/ 7' wingspan
- incredible off ball cutter and really uses that length to finish at the rim and generate steals
- +20% assist rate (indicates he's a willing passer and can make some plays from the pick and roll)
- consistently great free throw shooter all three years

Not the homerun swing, and I wouldn't be mad if we did attempt one. But I see a pathway where Moore is a contributor and playoff starter within the next two seasons and a player that James Harden would love to play with.

He does need to up that volume from deep, and I believe he has the form and ability to do so.

Also an immediate upgrade on Thybulle that either allows you to maximize him as an asset this summer, or to relieve him of some responsibility as a starter if we wanted to dial back his role.

Moore, Thybulle, Reed, Bassey and Springer are a stable of young guys that project to be able to hold their own defensively in a high pressure playoff setting.

Nice find. I also like him at our spot

I feel like he wouldn't fit your prerequisite as a prospect as much as Liddell, Hardy, Eason and Rollins would in terms of scoring production.

Would u trade Jaden Springer for Wendell Moore? I would!

stormi · Post #1043 » by **stormi** » Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:15 am

76ciology wrote:
stormi wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Nice find. I also like him at our spot

I feel like he wouldn't fit your prerequisite as a prospect as much as Liddell, Hardy, Eason and Rollins would in terms of scoring production.

Would u trade Jaden Springer for Wendell Moore? I would!

Read on Twitter

They faced off in AAU lol. I think Moore's team came out on top.

(need both on the 76ers)

76ciology · Post #1044 » by **76ciology** » Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:20 am

stormi wrote:
76ciology wrote:
stormi wrote:
I feel like he wouldn't fit your prerequisite as a prospect as much as Liddell, Hardy, Eason and Rollins would in terms of scoring production.

Would u trade Jaden Springer for Wendell Moore? I would!

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

They faced off in AAU lol. I think Moore's team came out on top.

(need both on the 76ers)

Then show this to the team you’re trading Wendell Moore for.

Let them care for their 1v1 battles.

I want size and shooting!!

stormi · Post #1045 » by **stormi** » Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:28 am

76ciology wrote:
stormi wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Would u trade Jaden Springer for Wendell Moore? I would!

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

They faced off in AAU lol. I think Moore's team came out on top.

(need both on the 76ers)

Then show this to the team you’re trading Wendell Moore for.

Let them care for their 1v1 battles.

I want size and shooting!!

Wendell Moore does bring size, length and athleticism to the forward position though, and he has the makings of being a good shooter that can be a pressure release valve around stars. I would put Springer is in this bracket too.

That's how this Celtics finals team and the Bucks and Lakers championship teams were all constructed.

Kobblehead · Post #1046 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Jun 11, 2022 12:20 pm

Unfortunately, while Wendell Moore has great natural shooting touch, he does not have established shooting range. So even as a 3 year player, he's still going to enter the NBA as a shooting project just like Springer.

I really wish we had two picks in the 20s because I really like Moore. I just want to draft a guy with more upside first.

Kobblehead · Post #1047 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Jun 11, 2022 12:44 pm

@76iology

Daimion Collins is going to be your dream prospect next year. Elite athlete at 6'9" 210 with outstanding shotblocking and major shooting upside. Switchable on the perimeter. Lob catching force.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/daimion-collins-1.html

Watch on YouTube

stormi · Post #1048 » by **stormi** » Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:23 pm

Cam Whitmore #him #novanation

Negrodamus · Post #1049 » by **Negrodamus** » Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:39 pm

I could see us going after Max Christie. He doesn't hit all of the marks that Springer and Maxey did in the past two drafts, but he hits a lot of them. He's a top 20, 5 star high school recruit. He shot 80+% FT shooter. He also has an incredible work ethic apparently:

The ultimate, how can I say it, in the front of the line. Always the first to show up in the gym. The first to ask the question in the team meetings. Always, literally, pushing himself as like ‘I’m going to be the voice; I’m going to be the leader,’ in a good way. He was always, like the team would be quiet, he would be the one to say something. He’s the extrovert when it comes to things like that. And he was a great teammate. And he played great. We had Max three times before we actually picked the team, in three camps, and he was that way from the first camp. Always, we go through drills at the first camp. The second camp, he was going to be first in line to make sure everybody knew, saw the way the drill was supposed to go. The guy who’d say ‘Hey, fellas, let’s make sure we pick up the trash in the cafeteria.’ He was that guy. For jerks, he was probably like ‘Why is this dude telling me what to do?’ But for the guys we wanted around, they would definitely feed off of that type of leadership.

He played great. But then his ceiling is lower than a guy like Jabari (Smith Jr.) or a guy like (A.J. Griffin). He was so comfortable quicker than everybody else, he played better faster. And he played so well, that was able to sustain him through everything. He didn’t always play great. The first couple of camps, you’d say he was one of the five best players. When we went to Brazil (for the FIBA Americas Under 16 Championships, in 2019), he was not a starter. Became a catch-and-shoot guy. He broke the USAB record for 3s in a game. We utilized his ability to make a jump shot. But he’s capable of doing so much more. He didn’t have to do that with us.

If we're looking for a young SF, he feels like a possible target based on previous drafts.

stormi · Post #1050 » by **stormi** » Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:41 pm

I need to do a deep dive on Christie and Wesley and determine who I like more.

Yo the draft is in 12 days lol.

edit: Christie >

mjkvol · Post #1051 » by **mjkvol** » Sat Jun 11, 2022 6:19 pm

Watch on YouTube

Kobblehead · Post #1052 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Jun 11, 2022 7:58 pm

Been super high on Christie as a bad college guy who will be a good NBA player.

Kobblehead · Post #1053 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Jun 11, 2022 8:01 pm

Max Christie and Matteo Spagnolo are no brainer, "outsmarting the draft" picks in the 2nd round. Highly skilled 19 year olds that everyone is overlooking.

Getting McGowens at #23 and then buy a pair of 2nd rounders to land Christie and Spagnolo and it could be looked back on as an incredible haul that supercharged this franchise.

Maxey
Springer
McGowens
Christie
Spagnolo

Skill on skill on skill on skill on skill.

Leave ancillary roleplayer traits like rebounding and defense to vet minimums and MLE types. Use picks on young guys with grace and skill.

Kobblehead · Post #1054 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Jun 11, 2022 8:14 pm

Why the hell didn't Caleb Love enter this draft, again?

Does he not see what Johnny Juzang is being subjected to?

Negrodamus · Post #1055 » by **Negrodamus** » Sat Jun 11, 2022 8:46 pm

Yea, the jumper looks pure for Christie and you have to wonder if he would have blown up more next year at Mich State had he stayed. When he puts on a little more muscle and endurance, I think he'll start to show off more, but he's currently a homerun pick. Kinda moves like Klay in a lot of his promising clips last year.

stormi · Post #1056 » by **stormi** » Sat Jun 11, 2022 8:47 pm

Klay/Booker esque. That jumper looks pure and I love that he holds that follow through. Just about getting stronger and adapting to playing against grown men with him.

Wonder if he get's Primo'd early.

Kobblehead · Post #1057 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Jun 11, 2022 8:56 pm

I still maintain this is a good draft. Aren't ya'll warming up to it a bit?

mjkvol · Post #1058 » by **mjkvol** » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:01 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Been super high on Christie as a bad college guy who will be a good NBA player.

He's got a pure stroke, can create a bit and well tight spots. Looks like he could be a great on-ball defender, especially as he gets stronger. Needs a ton of work finishing and around the rim in general. Seems like a 3&D guy at the very least.

Kobblehead · Post #1059 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:02 pm

If only Zakai Zeigler were 6'4"

Negrodamus · Post #1060 » by **Negrodamus** » Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:05 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I still maintain this is a good draft. Aren't ya'll warming up to it a bit?

Nope, not really. It's a lot of hoping that these guys just had a bad freshman year. It's not like Springer or Maxey where they actually produced quite a bit and were vital to their success. It's a little more blindly selecting.

Still fun nonetheless.