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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1041 » by 76ciology » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:19 pm

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76ciology wrote:McCain was so boring that I’d skip his scouting reports because I already knew what to expect. He’s been projected around the 16th pick for a year, and every time we saw his name, we’d think, “You know what? I think it’s Johnny Furphy,” or “Maybe it’s Kyle Filipowski.” By the night before the draft, I was already okay with picking Terrence Shannon or Jaylon Tyson.


I'd rather boring and good than exciting and volatile. Brandon Jennings was extremely exciting back in the 2009 draft, but I'm sure GSW doesn't regret taking the boring upperclassman with limited athleticism.


For sure. Im also starting to like McCain. I dont mind taking a chance with any guard as long as they can shoot and score, which McCain can.

I’d rather have McCain than Castle.
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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1042 » by mjkvol » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:30 pm

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76ciology wrote:This draft has a movie-like storyline for Mjkvol. All year, he’s been our Dalton Knecht expert, drawing attention to Knecht for many of us. On draft day, as Knecht slides down the board, increasing the chances of him being available at our spot, we ultimately pass on him for Jared McCain. McCain, whom mock drafts projected to land with us most of the year but was often ignored for being a “boring” prospect, ended up being our choice.


Yeah, it definitely became way more personal than analytical for me as DK slid last night, because I would never in a million years have imagined he would even be in the teens much less there at #16. As much as I detest James, he couldn't have landed in a better spot, with Redick as his coach, Davis in what should be a lethal DHO combination, and James getting him a ton of good looks.

I was envisioning going to a few Sixers games this year for the first time since ... must be the late '80's 'Thump and Bump' teams with Barkley, Mahorn, Hawkins, Dawkins, and Gminski. I loved that group.

McCain looks like he can be a microwave scorer off the bench from day one, which if he did would be more than fine for a mid 1st. He and Maxey together makes little sense, but since there really is no roster at this point, it isn't as if he's being penciled in as a starter. A bench scorer has definitely been a huge need, so if he supplies that the pick would be a success. And he's only, what, 20 years old? Hopefully he's here a long time.


Knecht was initially projected in the teens, and honestly, I first learned about him from you. When I saw him play, I liked his archetype and believed he could be a top 5 to top 10 pick, which I reflected in my mock draft. As he slid down the board, I had questions about him but went full YOLO in wanting to draft him. I can't remember the last time I watched the NBA draft, but this one was fun with you guys. I imagined your feelings as he slid and was available at our pick, only for us to pass him up for probably the most boring player in the draft but not necessarily not the best player available.


Honestly, it wouldn't have mattered who else they picked in passing on DK. I'm fine with McCain, but the idea of having Knecht here would have been off the charts cool. I imagine he dropped due to his age and his perceived lack of defense (which improved dramatically as last season progressed to the point that Barnes kept him on the floor in many big defensive possessions). He's been underestimated his entire life as a player, and I'm sure this will light a fire under him, as if he needs it. I was actually looking forward to he and Maxey, the two gym rats, working out together.

I didn't watch the draft - I can't stomach the interviews and "analyst" BS, and just followed the progress online and here with you guys.
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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1043 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:34 pm

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Yeah, it definitely became way more personal than analytical for me as DK slid last night, because I would never in a million years have imagined he would even be in the teens much less there at #16. As much as I detest James, he couldn't have landed in a better spot, with Redick as his coach, Davis in what should be a lethal DHO combination, and James getting him a ton of good looks.

I was envisioning going to a few Sixers games this year for the first time since ... must be the late '80's 'Thump and Bump' teams with Barkley, Mahorn, Hawkins, Dawkins, and Gminski. I loved that group.

McCain looks like he can be a microwave scorer off the bench from day one, which if he did would be more than fine for a mid 1st. He and Maxey together makes little sense, but since there really is no roster at this point, it isn't as if he's being penciled in as a starter. A bench scorer has definitely been a huge need, so if he supplies that the pick would be a success. And he's only, what, 20 years old? Hopefully he's here a long time.


Knecht was initially projected in the teens, and honestly, I first learned about him from you. When I saw him play, I liked his archetype and believed he could be a top 5 to top 10 pick, which I reflected in my mock draft. As he slid down the board, I had questions about him but went full YOLO in wanting to draft him. I can't remember the last time I watched the NBA draft, but this one was fun with you guys. I imagined your feelings as he slid and was available at our pick, only for us to pass him up for probably the most boring player in the draft but not necessarily not the best player available.


Honestly, it wouldn't have mattered who else they picked in passing on DK. I'm fine with McCain, but the idea of having Knecht here would have been off the charts cool. I imagine he dropped due to his age and his perceived lack of defense (which improved dramatically as last season progressed to the point that Barnes kept him on the floor in many big defensive possessions). He's been underestimated his entire life as a player, and I'm sure this will light a fire under him, as if he needs it. I was actually looking forward to he and Maxey, the two gym rats, working out together.

I didn't watch the draft - I can't stomach the interviews and "analyst" BS, and just followed the progress online and here with you guys.


I had the same feeling as I was gobsmacked in 2018 that SGA fell to our pick and was equally dejected when we went Mikal Bridges. In hindsight it would have been palatable to miss on SGA for Mikal, but the coup de grâce was trading Mikal for Zhaire, a player I absolutely could not get on board with.
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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1044 » by mjkvol » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:48 pm

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Knecht was initially projected in the teens, and honestly, I first learned about him from you. When I saw him play, I liked his archetype and believed he could be a top 5 to top 10 pick, which I reflected in my mock draft. As he slid down the board, I had questions about him but went full YOLO in wanting to draft him. I can't remember the last time I watched the NBA draft, but this one was fun with you guys. I imagined your feelings as he slid and was available at our pick, only for us to pass him up for probably the most boring player in the draft but not necessarily not the best player available.


Honestly, it wouldn't have mattered who else they picked in passing on DK. I'm fine with McCain, but the idea of having Knecht here would have been off the charts cool. I imagine he dropped due to his age and his perceived lack of defense (which improved dramatically as last season progressed to the point that Barnes kept him on the floor in many big defensive possessions). He's been underestimated his entire life as a player, and I'm sure this will light a fire under him, as if he needs it. I was actually looking forward to he and Maxey, the two gym rats, working out together.

I didn't watch the draft - I can't stomach the interviews and "analyst" BS, and just followed the progress online and here with you guys.


I had the same feeling as I was gobsmacked in 2018 that SGA fell to our pick and was equally dejected when we went Mikal Bridges. In hindsight it would have been palatable to miss on SGA for Mikal, but the coup de grâce was trading Mikal for Zhaire, a player I absolutely could not get on board with.


I didn't see SGA enough or know enough about him, but watched a ton of Villanova and always loved Bridges, and because he fit a desperate need here it was just the perfect pick to me. I knew SGA was good, but could never have imagined he would become a top 3-5 MVP-level player like he has.
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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1045 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:57 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
Honestly, it wouldn't have mattered who else they picked in passing on DK. I'm fine with McCain, but the idea of having Knecht here would have been off the charts cool. I imagine he dropped due to his age and his perceived lack of defense (which improved dramatically as last season progressed to the point that Barnes kept him on the floor in many big defensive possessions). He's been underestimated his entire life as a player, and I'm sure this will light a fire under him, as if he needs it. I was actually looking forward to he and Maxey, the two gym rats, working out together.

I didn't watch the draft - I can't stomach the interviews and "analyst" BS, and just followed the progress online and here with you guys.


I had the same feeling as I was gobsmacked in 2018 that SGA fell to our pick and was equally dejected when we went Mikal Bridges. In hindsight it would have been palatable to miss on SGA for Mikal, but the coup de grâce was trading Mikal for Zhaire, a player I absolutely could not get on board with.


I didn't see SGA enough or know enough about him, but watched a ton of Villanova and always loved Bridges, and because he fit a desperate need here it was just the perfect pick to me. I knew SGA was good, but could never have imagined he would become a top 3-5 MVP-level player like he has.


I think I had him probably 3rd best in the draft behind Ayton and Young (didn't even consider Doncic because I don't really watch Euro prospects). The only question was his 3pt shooting volume and his slight build. He did a hostile takeover of the Kentucky primary ballhandler position and became the superstar in spite of Cal's mismanagement. Similar to how I knew Tatum was going to be a stud because he ripped the alpha scorer designation from upperclassmen Kennard and Grayson Allen.
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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1046 » by kriss73 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:07 pm

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Re: 2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1047 » by HotelVitale » Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:30 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Knecht was initially projected in the teens, and honestly, I first learned about him from you. When I saw him play, I liked his archetype and believed he could be a top 5 to top 10 pick, which I reflected in my mock draft. As he slid down the board, I had questions about him but went full YOLO in wanting to draft him. I can't remember the last time I watched the NBA draft, but this one was fun with you guys. I imagined your feelings as he slid and was available at our pick, only for us to pass him up for probably the most boring player in the draft but not necessarily not the best player available.


Honestly, it wouldn't have mattered who else they picked in passing on DK. I'm fine with McCain, but the idea of having Knecht here would have been off the charts cool. I imagine he dropped due to his age and his perceived lack of defense (which improved dramatically as last season progressed to the point that Barnes kept him on the floor in many big defensive possessions). He's been underestimated his entire life as a player, and I'm sure this will light a fire under him, as if he needs it. I was actually looking forward to he and Maxey, the two gym rats, working out together.

I didn't watch the draft - I can't stomach the interviews and "analyst" BS, and just followed the progress online and here with you guys.


I had the same feeling as I was gobsmacked in 2018 that SGA fell to our pick and was equally dejected when we went Mikal Bridges. In hindsight it would have been palatable to miss on SGA for Mikal, but the coup de grâce was trading Mikal for Zhaire, a player I absolutely could not get on board with.

Your SGA advocacy all year up to draft night was part of my nominating you for the ‘ATG draft hits’ stickied on the draft board, by the way.

Also yeah that Zhaire pick was a nightmare, it’s rare that I think a lotto prospect is a total fraud but I didn’t understand how anyone clocked him as more than a distant project. (Though I was also dying for Lonnie Walker so what do I know.)
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Post#1048 » by Stanford » Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:56 pm

HotelVitale wrote:Your SGA advocacy all year up to draft night was part of my nominating you for the ‘ATG draft hits’ stickied on the draft board, by the way.


I remember a bunch of guys being super high on him here. Everyone crying over Bridges post-trade always annoyed me because the draft guys here were crying about Bridges on draft night. Crying that we took him over SGA.
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Post#1049 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:00 pm

HotelVitale wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
Honestly, it wouldn't have mattered who else they picked in passing on DK. I'm fine with McCain, but the idea of having Knecht here would have been off the charts cool. I imagine he dropped due to his age and his perceived lack of defense (which improved dramatically as last season progressed to the point that Barnes kept him on the floor in many big defensive possessions). He's been underestimated his entire life as a player, and I'm sure this will light a fire under him, as if he needs it. I was actually looking forward to he and Maxey, the two gym rats, working out together.

I didn't watch the draft - I can't stomach the interviews and "analyst" BS, and just followed the progress online and here with you guys.


I had the same feeling as I was gobsmacked in 2018 that SGA fell to our pick and was equally dejected when we went Mikal Bridges. In hindsight it would have been palatable to miss on SGA for Mikal, but the coup de grâce was trading Mikal for Zhaire, a player I absolutely could not get on board with.

Your SGA advocacy all year up to draft night was part of my nominating you for the ‘ATG draft hits’ stickied on the draft board, by the way.

Also yeah that Zhaire pick was a nightmare, it’s rare that I think a lotto prospect is a total fraud but I didn’t understand how anyone clocked him as more than a distant project. (Though I was also dying for Lonnie Walker so what do I know.)


I appreciate it. It sucks doubly now because he's such a good guy while my other hit, Tatum, is such a remarkable loser. The worst thing SGA did was that abomination of a commercial with Holmgren which might have been at gun point.
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Post#1050 » by Kobblehead » Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:53 pm

Love what the Rockets did. Their team is loaded.
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Post#1051 » by 76ciology » Sat Jul 6, 2024 3:37 am

OT: what happened to him?

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Post#1052 » by Mik317 » Sat Jul 6, 2024 4:23 am

Johnny Davis was a tough shot maker in college but it wasn't due to skill but rather thats the only shots he could get....and against better athletes that becomes even harder. Washington or his trainers also **** up his shot to Fultz levels. And he's not good at anything else besides attempting tough shots and there ya go
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