Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason

[51X3RF4N]

Or we can become sellers on the market and grab a package of a young scorer, expirings, and draft picks for Ben Simmons. Best move, IMO.

Expanding Shake Milton's role in the offense and allowing him and Embiid to form a 2-man combo offensively with Ben Simmons out of the way is our only logical route to playoff viability this season.

Sexton, Osman, Nance and picks?

Osman and Nance are not expirings, but they are on very good 3 and 4 year contracts and they fit very well in the rotation in my opinion.

Maxey/Milton/Osman/Nance/Howard

Is a heck of a bench behind

Sexton/Curry/Green/Harris/Embiid


Or flip Osman and Nance for expirings and more picks.

What would be the salary cap space if we basically traded Ben for Sexton and expirings?

Would we have enough to sign anyone in the off-season?

Embiid/Harris/Sexton/Curry/Shake/Maxey/Thybulle/Joe

That's an attractive roster to join as a free agent.


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[youngcrev]

I don't think Cleveland would offer that deal, whether Simmons is worth more in a vacuum or not. Typically when a young guy is playing at that level of Sexton they aren't getting dealt. You could probably get Garland and a pick package...

[youngcrev]

My proposal:

Green + Scott + Ferguson + Maxey + Kork + Pick 2021 (extra pick could be discussed, or a swap) for Oladipo and PJ Tucker

If ownership was willing to pay the type of money necessary to keep Oladipo, I'd do that. Cap crunch would get pretty tight though.

[Wilfried]

My proposal:

Green + Scott + Ferguson + Maxey + Kork + Pick 2021 (extra pick could be discussed, or a swap) for Oladipo and PJ Tucker

If ownership was willing to pay the type of money necessary to keep Oladipo, I'd do that. Cap crunch would get pretty tight though.

Was thinking about trying to ship Tobias in 2021 summer for a more defensive stretch 3/4 (Harison Barnes?), and some cap relief.

But to me, Oladipo is more a guy who can take over a game offensively and that's what we need. He can run the PG position.

If we can have a backcourt with him and Shake, together with Ben and Joel at the 4 and 5, we would be much more dangerous.

To me, at this point, it's about finding the 2nd option on offense and I don't know if Tobias is that guy. If he can take over a game offensively.

It's also about who would you keep, if Oladipo would be option #2: Ben or Tobias. I would keep Ben because of his defensive abilities but Tobias as a #3 option would be very interesting too.

[youngcrev]

My proposal:

Green + Scott + Ferguson + Maxey + Kork + Pick 2021 (extra pick could be discussed, or a swap) for Oladipo and PJ Tucker

If ownership was willing to pay the type of money necessary to keep Oladipo, I'd do that. Cap crunch would get pretty tight though.

Was thinking about trying to ship Tobias in 2021 summer for a more defensive stretch 3/4 (Harison Barnes?), and some cap relief.

But to me, Oladipo is more a guy who can take over a game offensively and that's what we need. He can run the PG position.

If we can have a backcourt with him and Shake, together with Ben and Joel at the 4 and 5, we would be much more dangerous.

To me, at this point, it's about finding the 2nd option on offense and I don't know if Tobias is that guy. If he can take over a game offensively.

It's also about who would you keep, if Oladipo would be option #2: Ben or Tobias. I would keep Ben because of his defensive abilities but Tobias as a #3 option would be very interesting too.

That's a good point. And yeah, I agree on Tobias, which is a major reason getting off that contract would be difficult, though maybe his deal becomes more movable with 3 years. And I guess at that price, you aren't completely killing yourself if things don't work out and Oladipo ends up walking (unless Maxey turns into a complete stud).

I really like the makeup of that team for the year too. Oladipo/Curry/Shake at guard feels like it gives you a very good combination of creation, shooting and defense and guard. Simmons/Harris/Tucker also looks really good at forward. And then obviously you've got your MVP caliber center, with Dwight as a solid backup and Tucker as an option to go small.

[Kobblehead]

With Mitchell, Doncic, Young, and Morant being likely untouchables, I'd check in on the availability of the following:

DeAaron Fox
Collin Sexton
Shai Alexander
Coby White

Selling Simmons for a package of any of the following would be a homerun for this franchise. It would give us legitimate 2021 firepower when combined with Milton and Maxey, and would make us extremely optimistic longterm.

[Wilfried]

If ownership was willing to pay the type of money necessary to keep Oladipo, I'd do that. Cap crunch would get pretty tight though.

Was thinking about trying to ship Tobias in 2021 summer for a more defensive stretch 3/4 (Harison Barnes?), and some cap relief.

But to me, Oladipo is more a guy who can take over a game offensively and that's what we need. He can run the PG position.

If we can have a backcourt with him and Shake, together with Ben and Joel at the 4 and 5, we would be much more dangerous.

To me, at this point, it's about finding the 2nd option on offense and I don't know if Tobias is that guy. If he can take over a game offensively.

It's also about who would you keep, if Oladipo would be option #2: Ben or Tobias. I would keep Ben because of his defensive abilities but Tobias as a #3 option would be very interesting too.

That's a good point. And yeah, I agree on Tobias, which is a major reason getting off that contract would be difficult, though maybe his deal becomes more movable with 3 years. And I guess at that price, you aren't completely killing yourself if things don't work out and Oladipo ends up walking (unless Maxey turns into a complete stud).

I really like the makeup of that team for the year too. Oladipo/Curry/Shake at guard feels like it gives you a very good combination of creation, shooting and defense and guard. Simmons/Harris/Tucker also looks really good at forward. And then obviously you've got your MVP caliber center, with Dwight as a solid backup and Tucker as an option to go small.

Well, if we can't get out of Tobias' contract, we keep him and move Simmons.
Try to get picks and a defensive minded 3/4 back.

Than you have Shake - Oladipo - ? - Tobias - Embiid. All can score, all are more than capable defenders. Try to bolster the bench with scoring and I feel that could be better than we have right now. Depends a lot on which value (SF + depth) Ben can get you back off course.

[youngcrev]

Was thinking about trying to ship Tobias in 2021 summer for a more defensive stretch 3/4 (Harison Barnes?), and some cap relief.

But to me, Oladipo is more a guy who can take over a game offensively and that's what we need. He can run the PG position.

If we can have a backcourt with him and Shake, together with Ben and Joel at the 4 and 5, we would be much more dangerous.

To me, at this point, it's about finding the 2nd option on offense and I don't know if Tobias is that guy. If he can take over a game offensively.

It's also about who would you keep, if Oladipo would be option #2: Ben or Tobias. I would keep Ben because of his defensive abilities but Tobias as a #3 option would be very interesting too.

That's a good point. And yeah, I agree on Tobias, which is a major reason getting off that contract would be difficult, though maybe his deal becomes more movable with 3 years. And I guess at that price, you aren't completely killing yourself if things don't work out and Oladipo ends up walking (unless Maxey turns into a complete stud).

I really like the makeup of that team for the year too. Oladipo/Curry/Shake at guard feels like it gives you a very good combination of creation, shooting and defense and guard. Simmons/Harris/Tucker also looks really good at forward. And then obviously you've got your MVP caliber center, with Dwight as a solid backup and Tucker as an option to go small.

Well, if we can't get out of Tobias' contract, we keep him and move Simmons.
Try to get picks and a defensive minded 3/4 back.

Than you have Shake - Oladipo - ? - Tobias - Embiid. All can score, all are more than capable defenders. Try to bolster the bench with scoring and I feel that could be better than we have right now. Depends a lot on which value (SF + depth) Ben can get you back off course.

Yeah, multiple paths you could go down.

Though if the plan is to put Ben on the table, you'd probably just target a better playmaking guard then Oladipo now, and try to turn those other pieces into a 3+D guy.

[Negrodamus]

With Mitchell, Doncic, Young, and Morant being likely untouchables, I'd check in on the availability of the following:

DeAaron Fox
Collin Sexton
Shai Alexander
Coby White

Selling Simmons for a package of any of the following would be a homerun for this franchise. It would give us legitimate 2021 firepower when combined with Milton and Maxey, and would make us extremely optimistic longterm.

I don't think there's any chance that Sac or OKC will let go of Fox and SGA. Sexton has entered the elite scorer conversation at the age of 22, so he's off the table.

Coby White seems to be the only realistic option as it can be packaged in a way that Ben/LaVine would compliment each other and they have the talent/veterans to make the jump as a playoff team.

[76ciology]

With Mitchell, Doncic, Young, and Morant being likely untouchables, I'd check in on the availability of the following:

DeAaron Fox
Collin Sexton
Shai Alexander
Coby White

Selling Simmons for a package of any of the following would be a homerun for this franchise. It would give us legitimate 2021 firepower when combined with Milton and Maxey, and would make us extremely optimistic longterm.

Coby only.

Fox and Sexton = both teams building that duo combo guard backcourt built

SGA = Presti will ask a crazy high price

Personally, I’d rather go after Lavine than Coby.

Coby doesnt make us better right now and likely just leave us a big hole we have now in the future

[76ciology]

You can’t get Fox and Sexton.

But given Ben is a great fit for the duo combo guard built (an increasing trend around the league), they will pay a lot of picks for Ben.

Think of how the Blazers has to overpay for Robert covington.

[youngcrev]

Thybulle + combo of bad expiring player (Scott, Ferguson, ect) for Fournier.

Magic get a young defender for a good, but expiring player. Sixers get a quality piece that fits in with what they have going (could start Fournier or move Shake into the starting lineup and make him your 6th man).

[ProcessDoctor]

What about Simmons/Ferguson for McCollum/Covington? Gain a ton of offense and don't lose any defense. I'd obviously prefer Dame, but I don't think Portland will trade him unless he asks out.


McCollum(34)/Curry(14)
Green(10)/Milton(24)/Curry(14)
Covington(14)/Green(18)/Thybulle(16)
Harris(34)/Covington(14)
Embiid(32)/Howard(16)


McCollum/Curry/Maxey
Green/Milton/Joe
Covington/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Harris/Scott
Embiid/Howard/Bradley/Poirer


Definitely top 10 offense and defense IMO. Just a matter of if we could take out Brooklyn or either LA team in a 7-game series.

[Kobblehead]

I like McCollum, but he just suffered a foot fracture that could become a big deal.

[ProcessDoctor]

I like McCollum, but he just suffered a foot fracture that could become a big deal.

Totally missed that headline, damn. Guess I’m back on the Beal bandwagon.

[youngcrev]

If Washington does end up sending Beal away somewhere, I imagine Bertans would be very gettable.

His contract isn't exactly great, but having a 7 foot guy in the JJ role is pretty intriguing.

[HardenToSixers]

What would Simmons for Brogdon framework do for us lol

[SixthStreet]

With Mitchell, Doncic, Young, and Morant being likely untouchables, I'd check in on the availability of the following:

DeAaron Fox
Collin Sexton
Shai Alexander
Coby White

Selling Simmons for a package of any of the following would be a homerun for this franchise. It would give us legitimate 2021 firepower when combined with Milton and Maxey, and would make us extremely optimistic longterm.

I've been wanting Fox forever but I think that ship has sailed. I've floated Simmons for Fox/Halliburton but with the way Halliburton is playing we'd never get that offer today.

[51X3RF4N]

What would Simmons for Brogdon framework do for us lol

Brogdon last year would've been easier. So far Brogdon this year is playing abnormally better than the rest of his career.

He's a great fit with Embiid. But it forces Danny into a full time SF role.

Could look to add a 3rd team like Cleveland, who may be interested in a Myles Turner to pair with Sexton/Garland if they don't see Drummond coming back.

To Cleveland: Turner
To Indiana: Simmons, Scott
To Philly: Brogdon, Nance, Osman, picks

Embiid/Howard
Harris/Nance
Osman/Green
Curry/Milton
Brogdon/Maxey

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[ProcessDoctor]

CHI out: LaVine, Young, Markannen, 2021 FRP
CHI in: Simmons, Ferguson

PHI out: Simmons, Ferguson
PHI in: Beal, Young

WSH out: Beal
WSH in: LaVine, Markannen, 2021 CHI FRP