The Playoffs Thread

[Ferry Avenue]

Yes, it's possible. You just have to have a stable of creators playing around the bigman. You don't even need stars or future hall of famers. Just get solid Parker/Ginoboli types.

Maxey is a start. Find a few more with varying sizes and we'll fault to title favorites.

At least one of those players has to be a guy you can hand the ball to in the clutch and have him reliably break someone down off the dribble and penetrate and score, get fouled and actually MAKE free throws, or make an effective pass for a score.

That's the equivalent of your quarterback in the NFL. Again this team right now has a "Derrick Henry" (Embiid) and no quarterback. That ain't gonna cut it. You can't run the offense through Embiid in the clutch of a playoff game.

[76ciology]

Yes, it's possible. You just have to have a stable of creators playing around the bigman. You don't even need stars or future hall of famers. Just get solid Parker/Ginoboli types.

Maxey is a start. Find a few more with varying sizes and we'll fault to title favorites.

Good point.

It can work if you have a good ballhandler who can score as good as Murray or Mitchell.

In the end, the ball handler will have a bigger slice of the pie on offense because he will have the initial action on the set. You dont run a post play then the PnR. It’s PnR then the post play.

It’s gonna look similar to how Nuggets play in 2020 bubbles. Jamal Murray having to drop 50 with Jokic giving them the extra edge.

you need a really talented ball handler who can score. Not just some Shake Milton or Tobias Harris.

And honestly, we kind of faced this reality and kind of artificially generate this kind of set-up with how much reliance we had for Seth Curry.

The game is just crunched down to a scoring contest of a ball handler trying to score off a screen play. It’s just how good he can score off those.

[76ciology]

Yes, it's possible. You just have to have a stable of creators playing around the bigman. You don't even need stars or future hall of famers. Just get solid Parker/Ginoboli types.

Maxey is a start. Find a few more with varying sizes and we'll fault to title favorites.

At least one of those players has to be a guy you can hand the ball to in the clutch and have him reliably break someone down off the dribble and penetrate and score, get fouled and actually MAKE free throws, or make an effective pass for a score.

That's the equivalent of your quarterback in the NFL. Again this team right now has a "Derrick Henry" (Embiid) and no quarterback. That ain't gonna cut it. You can't run the offense through Embiid in the clutch of a playoff game.

But it shouldnt just be some point guard.

The point guard is not there to set-up an iso action for embiid.

The point guard should be there to take the shot that we dont need to rely on embiid that much more on offense.

If you have Brogdon in the place of Ben, the Hawks would just live with a scoring battle of Brogdon and Trae Young off the 2 man screen play.

The point guard should be a lethal scoring threat like Trae that the big would be forced to step out, just as how Biid has to step out against trae. If Brogdon was in the place of Trae, Biid would just live with Brogdon’s pull up jumpers.

So my opinion is.. it shouldnt just be a point guard. If should be a guard who can drop 40-50 pts if you dont do the necessary adjustments on defense.

This is why Suns is lethal. CP3 is the probably best PnR in league history. Booker is a lethal scorer off a screen. Suns is playing exactly the way the league’s rules wants the game should be played.

[Murray_17]

Monty Williams credited Brett Brown for the alley up winner in his post game interview lol

[Stanford]

Monty Williams credited Brett Brown for the alley up winner in his post game interview lol

My man!

[76ciology]

Monty Williams credited Brett Brown for the alley up winner in his post game interview lol

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[76ciology]

Monty Williams credited Brett Brown for the alley up winner in his post game interview lol

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[76ciology]

Hawks-Bucks.

Look how powerful is the ball handler on the 2 man screen play is.

Even the league has to change the rules with how Trae is taking advantage of the rules

[okboomer]

The Bucks blew that game by not being able to box out down the stretch. The simple things win games.

[DCasey91]

Never ever sleep on a clockwork 30/10 PG guy no matter what the stats, efficiency blah blah blah.

Westbrook is doo doo now we all know that. He’s an SG trying to play PG.

Trae can do both the primary point guard role and the primary scorer’s role as good as anyone in the comp right this very second.

Fwiw I don’t rate Mitchell at all. Top 25 his play style has its ceilings. LOL at the Wade comp.

I don’t rate Gobert and I certainly don’t rate Tatum as highly as others or high enough to be a 1# option.

Trae is a 1# everyday of the week its super obvious.

Been backing him since he was ranked 16th top 25 under 25 on ESPN talk about dumb.

Nash/Lillard hybrid always, it’s 2.0 version is already here best of both branches.

They ain’t 15 number one options under 25 in the NBA f that noise.

Ice cold baby.

[76ciology]

What Bucks should do.

Play Portis at C. Switch the PnR. Let Portis step out and defend Trae. If Hawks opts to attack in the paint with their bigs, you already won on defense.

I feel that was our biggest mistake. We should have switched more often those PnR rather than our scheme of trapping and this scheme of Biid letting Trae guess if he’s stepping out or sagging.

[the_process]

Hawks fans will be an absolutely insufferable lot if they go to the Finals.

[76ciology]

We all know how powerful the PnR game is.

I don’t know why wont just switch those PnR. This goes back to 2018. You then can take advantage of the tools Ben and Biid have that makes them multi positional on defense.

The only reason I see is it will take a lot of energy away from Biid. If that’s an issue then pace the game the switch more often on late game situations.

[76ciology]

Hawks fans will be an absolutely insufferable lot if they go to the Finals.

Good thing there are not a lot of Hawks fans out there.

The insufferable ones are the Raps fans. They’re like literally trolls out there.

[syntax]

Never ever sleep on a clockwork 30/10 PG guy no matter what the stats, efficiency blah blah blah.

Westbrook is doo doo now we all know that. He’s an SG trying to play PG.

Trae can do both the primary point guard role and the primary scorer’s role as good as anyone in the comp right this very second.

Fwiw I don’t rate Mitchell at all. Top 25 his play style has its ceilings. LOL at the Wade comp.

I don’t rate Gobert and I certainly don’t rate Tatum as highly as others or high enough to be a 1# option.

Trae is a 1# everyday of the week its super obvious.

Been backing him since he was ranked 16th top 25 under 25 on ESPN talk about dumb.

Nash/Lillard hybrid always, it’s 2.0 version is already here best of both branches.

They ain’t 15 number one options under 25 in the NBA f that noise.

Ice cold baby.

Never sleep on a 30/10 pg. Unless its Westbrook, or Mitchell.

LOL.

[76ciology]

What Bucks should do.

Play Portis at C. Switch the PnR. Let Portis step out and defend Trae. If Hawks opts to attack in the paint with their bigs, you already won on defense.

I feel that was our biggest mistake. We should have switched more often those PnR rather than our scheme of trapping and this scheme of Biid letting Trae guess if he’s stepping out or sagging.

Ok they did

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NBA is just about how good is your ball handler in scoring to this type of offense.

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We saw the same thing last season with Murray and Mitchell

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Look at KD. Bring down the ball, screen then pull up.

Watch on YouTube

Nets hoarded 3 guys who can score like this
Suns secret formula for overachieving
PG and Kawhi pull up galore
League trying to change the rules because of Trae

[DCasey91]

Never ever sleep on a clockwork 30/10 PG guy no matter what the stats, efficiency blah blah blah.

Westbrook is doo doo now we all know that. He’s an SG trying to play PG.

Trae can do both the primary point guard role and the primary scorer’s role as good as anyone in the comp right this very second.

Fwiw I don’t rate Mitchell at all. Top 25 his play style has its ceilings. LOL at the Wade comp.

I don’t rate Gobert and I certainly don’t rate Tatum as highly as others or high enough to be a 1# option.

Trae is a 1# everyday of the week its super obvious.

Been backing him since he was ranked 16th top 25 under 25 on ESPN talk about dumb.

Nash/Lillard hybrid always, it’s 2.0 version is already here best of both branches.

They ain’t 15 number one options under 25 in the NBA f that noise.

Ice cold baby.

Never sleep on a 30/10 pg. Unless its Westbrook, or Mitchell.

LOL.

I’ve never rated Mitchell, nothing about his game is attractive. If he doesn’t get hot from three he’s just another player to me.

Since when is Donovan a 30/10 guy?

Do you even who has the the most 30/10’s since entering? Lmao

Trae and Luka have better anti trap natural skills with the ball heck even in college/euroleague then Mitchell ever could possibly dream to have.

Traps don’t work on them.

Mitchell is basic as it comes.

[the_process]

Hawks fans will be an absolutely insufferable lot if they go to the Finals.

Good thing there are not a lot of Hawks fans out there.

The insufferable ones are the Raps fans. They’re like literally trolls out there.

They’re coming.

Portland fans are popping up in the trade thread, to correct us on trading for Lillard or McCollum.

Toronto fans are all over the Lowry thread.

Boston fans in the Simmons thread.

[76ciology]

Defense.

Trae did his thing on Ben. Now he dropped almost 50 against Jrue as his primary defender.

And it’s just Trae Young. Not even some superstar PG like Steph or a healthy Kyrie or Harden.

[DCasey91]

Trae is going to be better then Nash and Lillard.

Hybrid power all the way to the top.