76ciology wrote:youngcrev wrote:76ciology wrote:
His scoring went from 16ppg to ~20ppg in the last 5 years
In 17-18 he averaged 18.6 ppg on .565 TS
In 21-22 he's averaging 18.7 ppg on .559 TS
The arrow stopped going up for him a while ago. He is what he is. You could even say he peaked in LA, but I look at that more as simply an outlier shooting stretch.
Im looking at 2016-2021 because 2022 is not yet done and who knows maybe he’d average 20-20+ By this season.
Nevertheless
2015-2016: 16ppg
2016-2017:16ppg
2017-2018: 18.6ppg starts becoming very efficient scorer
2018-2019: 20ppg
2020-2021: 19.6ppg with career best defense
Compared to player B, Tobi’s improvement is way more evident don’t you think?
First of all, it's very convenient not counting this season to help your case. But there are times where just the numbers don't remotely tell the story, and Tobias would be the poster child.
Fit has to be considered, and with all the advanced stats you guys are a lot better at analyzing than me, the forgotten eyeball test. He is clearly a square peg here, and just watching him night in and night out makes it clear how little impact he has, despite his numbers. For all his faults, and they are numerous, Simmons had so much more impact on regular season games than Tobias could ever have.
Finally, comparing him to a guy who can't shoot is quite a convenient way at building up any player. But I'd guarantee that if Simmons returned after the trade deadline, even without shooting his impact night to night would dwarf that of Tobias.
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