2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft

[Jailblazers7]

I do actually like this class quite a bit with the number of wings that have upside. Picking the right one will be hard but I wouldn’t be surprised if this class looks really strong in 5 years. I think they’re coming into the league at a “changing of the guard” moment which should give plenty of players opportunity to improve over the next few years.

[Kobblehead]

There's a hell of a lot of youth with size and skill on the wing in this draft. And some of those guys being projected as late as the 30s. The mark of a strong draft, in my eyes.

I mean, you have a guy like Bryce McGowens that averaged over 16 a game in a major conference, shooting well over 80% from the free throw line as a 19 year old and he may be available at #23. Guys like him almost always go lotto.

[Iverson Armband]

I really see Blake Wesley as a dark horse potential star. Don’t see much of a difference between he and Ivey IMO.

[76ciology]

I really see Blake Wesley as a dark horse potential star. Don’t see much of a difference between he and Ivey IMO.

Speaks more of how overrated Ivey is.

I have Ivey sliding right now in my mock.

Ivey is closer to Maxey and Quickley more than Ja Morant.

[76ciology]

Another guy who’s realistically available and i’d like to draft at 23rd is Kennedy Chandler.

He’s a guy who we can play with Maxey, if Harden is on the bench or on load management.

He is already a good PnR player with good PnR skills and good defense. Could be a guy Doc would be more open to use.

And he shoots 38% from 3.

Embiid’s back-up = Reed or Bassey
Harden’s back-up = Kennedy Chandler

[76ciology]

Stormi,

Wendell Moore is not a good defensive player huh? Or is he?

[76ciology]

23rd pick

If 3&D Green: Jake LaRavia
If replace tobias: Lidell
If back-up G: Kennedy Chandler
If go big: Kessler
If upside: 1st option Kamagate; 2nd option Leonard Miller

Also arranged on who i think will get selected with our pick come draft day

Personally, I’d pick Lidell or LaRavia or Chandler.

Then I will trade Springer to get Leonard Miller or Kamagate.

From start to deadline, shop Kamagate or Miller and Tobias (expiring by the next season) to a young rebuilding team

[76ciology]

23rd pick

If replace Tobi or Green: Lidell
If 3&D: Jake Lavaria
If back-up G: Kennedy Chandler
If go big: Kessler
If upside: 1st option Kamagate; 2nd option Leonard Miller

Also arranged on who i think will get selected with our pick come draft day

Personally, I’d pick Lidell or Lavaria or Chandler.

Then I will trade Springer to get Leonard Miller or Kamagate.

From start to deadline, shop Kamagate or Miller and Tobias (expiring by the next season) to a young rebuilding team

Conservative outlook:

Start:
Harden/MLE 6thman
Maxey/Milton
LaRavia/Thybulle
Tobias/Niang
Embiid/Reed

If I was in charge:

Start:
Maxey/MLE 6th man
Harden/Thybulle
Tobias/LaRavia
Reed/Niang
Embiid/Bassey

Look for trade:
Tobias + Kamagate;
if succeed then replace Tobias with LaRavia

[Jailblazers7]

Stormi,

Wendell Moore is not a good defensive player huh? Or is he?

I think Moore projects as an awesome defender. Good size & length allows him to switch, he’s gotta quick hands & the IQ to strip defenders (3% stock rate), and his lateral quickness make him a good point of attack defender. The only real concern I have with him is his jumper, which isn’t bad but likely needs some work to consistently hit from the NBA 3 point line.

A player like LaRavia has a more obvious role fit because of his shooting stroke but I love Moore’s intangibles as a connector on offense. I don’t love LaRavia because he reminds me a little too much of Tobias in that he loves a meandering post up on his drives because he doesn’t have the athleticism to beat his defender. I think he’s a more natural passer and cutter than Tobi tho so he’ll probably do a better job of avoiding those awkward drives.

[mjkvol]

Another guy who’s realistically available and i’d like to draft at 23rd is Kennedy Chandler.

He’s a guy who we can play with Maxey, if Harden is on the bench or on load management.

He is already a good PnR player with good PnR skills and good defense. Could be a guy Doc would be more open to use.

And he shoots 38% from 3.

Embiid’s back-up = Reed or Bassey
Harden’s back-up = Kennedy Chandler

I suggested the same thing, but most here feel his height precludes him from being playable with Maxey. Ability and style-wise, Chandler is the perfect third guard here, but is playing two munchkins in the backcourt plausible, even if we size up at the 3,4,and 5?

[mjkvol]

23rd pick

If 3&D Green: Jake LaRavia
If replace tobias: Lidell
If back-up G: Kennedy Chandler
If go big: Kessler
If upside: 1st option Kamagate; 2nd option Leonard Miller

Also arranged on who i think will get selected with our pick come draft day

Personally, I’d pick Lidell or LaRavia or Chandler.

Then I will trade Springer to get Leonard Miller or Kamagate.

From start to deadline, shop Kamagate or Miller and Tobias (expiring by the next season) to a young rebuilding team

I agree with all of that other than taking Kessler. I believe our backup bigs are already in house.

Also, I'm only trading Springer if the pick is Chandler, and Morey believes he is a better third guard option to develop.

[Kobblehead]

Wendell Moore may be able to compete defensively, given his wingspan and strength, but he definitely is not an impact defender. His steal numbers are below par and his block numbers are non-existent. I'd say he's an offensive prospect.

[Negrodamus]

I can accept Kennedy having a down year shooting from FT if he was ~70%, but 60% is sounding the alarms that he won’t be a consistent shooter from deep. Was he injured or something?

[Kobblehead]

Even worse in conference play. He was shooting 55.4% in 17 SEC games. It's hard for me to consider Chandler anything more than a defensive grinder, at this point. Anything he provides on offense will be sheer bonus.

[mjkvol]

I can accept Kennedy having a down year shooting from FT if he was ~70%, but 60% is sounding the alarms that he won’t be a consistent shooter from deep. Was he injured or something?

That number is so strange, I don't recall him being that mediocre from the line, but he also didn't get to the line that often. He was solid from 3 (38% on almost 4 att./game), and was great in big spots, not at all afraid of the moment. His defense improved exponentially as the season progressed, something Barnes often noted. Hopefully the FT% was an anomaly that can be improved with work.

[76ciology]

Another guy who’s realistically available and i’d like to draft at 23rd is Kennedy Chandler.

He’s a guy who we can play with Maxey, if Harden is on the bench or on load management.

He is already a good PnR player with good PnR skills and good defense. Could be a guy Doc would be more open to use.

And he shoots 38% from 3.

Embiid’s back-up = Reed or Bassey
Harden’s back-up = Kennedy Chandler

I suggested the same thing, but most here feel his height precludes him from being playable with Maxey. Ability and style-wise, Chandler is the perfect third guard here, but is playing two munchkins in the backcourt plausible, even if we size up at the 3,4,and 5?

Anything is possible on defense if you have two bigs at 4&5. Much more if you have a good defensive lengthy wing at 3.

[76ciology]

Wendell Moore may be able to compete defensively, given his wingspan and strength, but he definitely is not an impact defender. His steal numbers are below par and his block numbers are non-existent. I'd say he's an offensive prospect.

Actually thats the stat im looking at. Most of these guys i just look at the stat. At most maybe 3 game highlights and a Adam Spinella scouting video.

Wendell moore is more of a man to man defender thats why he isnt reflecting as a good defender for me

[Jailblazers7]

I agree that I think Moore is primarily a point of attack defender and isn’t super disruptive on that end. But that’s exactly the kind of defender that has premium value in a playoff series. You can put him on a wing scorer and let him live on an island and he’ll hold his own while maybe generating a steal or two. Or have him as a switchable defender who can keep your defense out of rotation. More of a Lu Dort type of defender than a Matisse.

[Negrodamus]

I can't believe Dalen Terry is 6'7 in shoes. If he looked even slightly natural as a scorer, I'd be all over him as the pick. He looks like Malik Monk with none of the scoring instincts: very deliberate movements and an extremely awkward driver to the basket.

[Negrodamus]

I'm still on the Justin Lewis train. I'd love for us to acquire a second rounder and pick him. His jumpshot is nearly unblockable and he had a massive leap from his freshman year as a bench player to third in the Big East in ppg.