Around the League Discussion - 2018-2019 (Playoffs)

LloydFree · Post #1081 » by **LloydFree** » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:56 pm

76ciology wrote:Was Len Bias really that good? I dont find his numbers in college that good

Yes. He was that good. Comparing numbers from today's game to the past is faulty. The players today, specifically the bigger guys (6'8 and up) are infinitely more skilled on a whole, so he wouldn't stand out as much and the rules have been changed so much that the game is different and the scoring is artificially inflated.

In his era, Len Bias was a Durant level talent. He was a physical freak and he could shoot. To put him in perspective, Bias declared in '86 and Karl Malone declared early in '85. There is not one person that would have selected Karl Malone over Len Bias.

76ciology · Post #1082 » by **76ciology** » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:13 am

Sixerscan wrote:
76ciology wrote:Was Len Bias really that good? I dont find his numbers in college that good

I mean are you looking at it through the lens of 2019? 23 ppg his senior year on 60 true shooting in what the ACC what at that point is no joke.

But aside from his scoring, his numbers are average at best. Im not sure, but seniors scoring that well isnt that much hard to find

76ciology · Post #1083 » by **76ciology** » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:14 am

LloydFree wrote:
76ciology wrote:Was Len Bias really that good? I dont find his numbers in college that good

Yes. He was that good. Comparing numbers from today's game to the past is faulty. The players today, specifically the bigger guys (6'8 and up) are infinitely more skilled on a whole, so he wouldn't stand out as much and the rules have been changed so much that the game is different and the scoring is artificially inflated.

In his era, Len Bias was a Durant level talent. He was a physical freak and he could shoot. To put him in perspective, Bias declared in '86 and Karl Malone declared early in '85. There is not one person that would have selected Karl Malone over Len Bias.

Yeah and they maybe wrong.

Malone was a 20-10 player in his freshman year while he has superior steals and rebounding numbers compared to bias. Also scores at around 60TS%.

LloydFree · Post #1084 » by **LloydFree** » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:46 am

76ciology wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
76ciology wrote:Was Len Bias really that good? I dont find his numbers in college that good

Yes. He was that good. Comparing numbers from today's game to the past is faulty. The players today, specifically the bigger guys (6'8 and up) are infinitely more skilled on a whole, so he wouldn't stand out as much and the rules have been changed so much that the game is different and the scoring is artificially inflated.

In his era, Len Bias was a Durant level talent. He was a physical freak and he could shoot. To put him in perspective, Bias declared in '86 and Karl Malone declared early in '85. There is not one person that would have selected Karl Malone over Len Bias.

Yeah and they maybe wrong.

Malone was a 20-10 player in his freshman year while he has superior steals and rebounding numbers compared to bias. Also scores at around 60TS%.

I know it's pointless, but you do know that college stats are greatly affected by your level of competition and the coaches system. Comparing the numbers of a Louisiana Tech and a Maryland player from 1983 is borderline ridiculous.

Post #1085 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 2:09 am

76ciology wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
76ciology wrote:Was Len Bias really that good? I dont find his numbers in college that good

I mean are you looking at it through the lens of 2019? 23 ppg his senior year on 60 true shooting in what the ACC what at that point is no joke.

But aside from his scoring, his numbers are average at best. Im not sure, but seniors scoring that well isnt that much hard to find

Everyone was still staying until their junior or senior year at that point so the whole "why wasn't he great until he was an upperclassman" question wasn't really a thing. No one was great as an underclassman unless you were like Michael Jordan or Patrick Ewing.

Negrodamus · Post #1086 » by **Negrodamus** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:56 pm

Read on Twitter

The Hanlen video we never got. Still looks off. I guess we'll see if he's going to be a contributor in the NBA this season.

Post #1087 » by **Sixerscan** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:18 pm

Feel like he should be capable of giving a decent team backup minutes, just a question of what happens if he has another setback or rough patch.

Post #1088 » by **Stanford** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:59 pm

lol the offseason is amazing.

Some old Fultz.

76ciology · Post #1089 » by **76ciology** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:15 am

The issue is how consistent can his jumper be. We saw the same thing last season when his jumper went from trending up and then suddenly losing it mysteriously.

AirP. · Post #1090 » by **AirP.** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:06 am

There's a bunch of videos of Fultz from today...

Read on Twitter

The ringer has a story on them.
https://www.theringer.com/nba-preview/2019/9/25/20884455/markelle-fultz-orlando-magic

Post #1091 » by **Sixerscan** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:12 am

He's great for #content

76ciology · Post #1092 » by **76ciology** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:21 pm

Orlando Magic is perfect team for Fultz.

Bum Adebayo · Post #1093 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:45 pm

Well, 3pt shot looks a bit better but it is a low release point shot and it is very likely to be blocked by defenders. Hope I'm wrong.

Negrodamus · Post #1094 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:18 pm

Josh Jackson starting the season on the Griz G-League team. I knew he'd be bad, but jesus, he's taking this to another level.

76ciology · Post #1095 » by **76ciology** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:22 am

Negrodamus wrote:Josh Jackson starting the season on the Griz G-League team. I knew he'd be bad, but jesus, he's taking this to another level.

I think he also has off court issues.

76ciology · Post #1096 » by **76ciology** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:31 am

What do you guys think about Kyrie’s statement on why he left Celtics? For me..

1.) he didnt want to be with the Celts but he eventually loved being one
2.) midway, he has a change of heart because he started valuing off court stuffs like family over basketball. Started when his grandpa died
3.) celts players have their ambitions in the way of overall team success

Post #1097 » by **Sixerscan** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:24 pm

Him and Durant both seem nuts and in their own bubbles. They both just ramble on about stuff and expect no one to point out it doesn't make any sense. If they had half of Embiid's self awareness they'd be a lot better off.

Sixteen · Post #1098 » by **Sixteen** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:34 pm

76ciology wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Josh Jackson starting the season on the Griz G-League team. I knew he'd be bad, but jesus, he's taking this to another level.

I think he also has off court issues.

Watch on YouTube

XtremeDunkz · Post #1099 » by **XtremeDunkz** » Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:49 pm

Sixerscan wrote:Him and Durant both seem nuts and in their own bubbles. They both just ramble on about stuff and expect no one to point out it doesn't make any sense. If they had half of Embiid's self awareness they'd be a lot better off.

Kyrie is **** out of his mind. Durant is just soft and super self conscious. But Kyrie is literally off his rocker.

GTR11 · Post #1100 » by **GTR11** » Sun Sep 29, 2019 4:09 am

XtremeDunkz wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:Him and Durant both seem nuts and in their own bubbles. They both just ramble on about stuff and expect no one to point out it doesn't make any sense. If they had half of Embiid's self awareness they'd be a lot better off.

Kyrie is **** out of his mind. Durant is just soft and super self conscious. But Kyrie is literally off his rocker.

Well at least y'all do realize this ain't same BK team 6's beat up on. NO good luck wishes for a team of 4 legit players, y'all some cocky ass fans :lol: