2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1

[stormi]

That pick is probably being sent to New Orleans in a deal for Holiday.

I'd rather them stand pat and take Maxey. Maxey/Herro might be one of the most exploitable defensive backcourts in the entire NBA.

"Probably"? What makes you say that. And yes please teleport Jrue to Philadelphia

He's talking about Holiday to Miami, so no no no

Um yikes.....

[Kobblehead]

If he gained noticeable muscle from age 19 to 20, why couldn't he continue to get bigger and stronger into his 20s?

I dunno man, we're talking about someone "bulking up" to 174 pounds during a period of basketball inactivity. We have no clue what he's going to be able to maintain as his playing weight.

Besides, my main concerns with Terry are which way he ends up defensively and whether or not he can be more than just a perimeter pullup guy as a creator.

I wouldn't care about Terry's size if I was certain about his defense and shotcreation (see DeAaron Fox and Shai Alexander).

[Mik317]

the pivot from 3 level scoring is all that matters to defense is actually the most important is impressive

[Stanford]

the pivot from 3 level scoring is all that matters to defense is actually the most important is impressive

Haha yeah I don't know wtf is important anymore

[ankle420breaker]

the pivot from 3 level scoring is all that matters to defense is actually the most important is impressive

Haha yeah I don't know wtf is important anymore

Don't worry about that. Not important.

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[Kobblehead]

the pivot from 3 level scoring is all that matters to defense is actually the most important is impressive

Scoring off the dribble is the most important trait for having a direct impact on a basketball game. However, in a league that has abandoned the concept of fighting through screens, it's becoming increasingly more important to select guys that can't be exploited in playoff series.

I don't see the point in drooling over a sieve like Maxey when there are far more complete players than him still available.

[Mik317]

most of these guys will be exploited during the playoffs tho. Its very rare that any rookie let alone the youngins nowadays are equipt to be gamechangers on that end. Thybulle had a near all defensive team season and was food in the playoffs because his body and mind wasn't used to the physicality. Things take time.

and regardless of that, finding flawless prospects is not going to happen. Every single guy that could be drafted has some potential to just not be playable in the playoffs. The ideal is that the good outweighs the bad AND most importantly these flaws can be worked on or at least covered up. You seem to have this idea that teams have to be full of perfect 2 way shot creators when the very Lakers team you said had no chance to win it all...did that with guys like Rondo , who on multiple occasions you said sucked ass, playing big for them.

This does not mean Maxey is god and can do no wrong either. He is still a teenager and has to grow and until he does, he probably will get attacked on defense. But thats kinda how it goes...Ja Morant for example legit got targeted by CJ in the play in game and couldn't do **** about it lol. I guess Memphis should trade him while they can ......or they can give him some time to get stronger, smarter, and craftier to make sure that isn't common place. Steph still isn't exactly a lock down defender for example but he got stronger and learned how to survive and hide on that end thanks to his teammates and the scheme around him.

Peeps have this idea that players can't have any flaws and the whole team has to be perfect...it was a different season but I highly doubt anyone thought the final 4 teams were going to be Miami, Boston, Lakers and the Nuggets...at the start of the year Jamal Murray was an over paid semi disapointment that Denver should totes trade while they can. Jimmy went to Miami to retire yo (Bam who?), the Lakers had no shot creators. **** changes fast

and at the end of the day, we need guys who can dribble and shoot. Its up to our coaching staff of dreams and genius morey to figure out the other parts after that.

[Negrodamus]

I'm curious who Morey will draft since he's has a mixed bag of results. He also hasn't really picked in the first round for a while, unless I'm overlooking something.

[Negrodamus]

Also, hot take alert: Not sure what makes Tyrell Terry a better prospect than Devon Dotson other than Dotson being a year older.

[stormi]

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Merrill really does give Luka vibes. But he's 6'5 and not 6'8 and 24 years and not 17 lol..

[stormi]

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Some of the better 'scouting' type videos i've seen for the 2020 class coming from this channel

Was really into these dime drop vids a few years ago but idk where they've gone

Watch on YouTube

[Kobblehead]

You seem to have this idea that teams have to be full of perfect 2 way shot creators

It's the most impactful player archetype. If you're not actively seeking out the best outcome, what are you even doing?

1. Defenders that can score off the dribble.

-- it's

-- not

-- even

-- close

2a. Defensive role players
2b. Scorers off the dribble that get picked on defensively
4. Shooting specialists.

[Kobblehead]

I've been saying that I'd prefer Hagans in a 15-20 minute role over teammate Maxey in a 25-30 minute role. Hagans is a defensive monster and he's got both creating and shooting upside.

[Kobblehead]

Also, hot take alert: Not sure what makes Tyrell Terry a better prospect than Devon Dotson other than Dotson being a year older.

Terry's appeal is married to, glued to, tied with rope around his A+, elite shooting tool. As we know, there are several prospects at his position in his age range that have far more complete games.

[stormi]

Was debating Stanley vs Green (and trying to undetstand the ~half-a-round projected difference) as a defending wings with potential. Especially because a Celtics fan on their board is convinced Cash Stanley is a Jaylen Brown clone. Green just looks more refined in all areas while being 15 months younger.

I think my ideal draft would be like.

21: Josh Green
34: Tre Jones
36: Tyler Bey / Isaiah Joe

or maybe (Kira Lewis/)Tyrell Terry. at 21 and Stanley and Bey/Jones

[Kobblehead]

I have drawbacks on Stanley. Even if his raw offensive game eventually blossoms at the next level, what are you really getting? A shorter Andrew Wiggins? He can't guard anyone, whatsoever. And I think there were 2 games all year where he had more than 2 assists. No passing ability/instincts, bad defender, extremely raw ability to create off the dribble, work in progress jumper. Just a whole lot a meh. Better athlete than basketball player.

Josh Green doesn't have any offensive upside. He's pretty much restricted to shooting catch and shoot threes and cutting to the basket off the ball, but he's a fantastic defender and extremely low maintenance. He's pretty much a lock to be a winning piece, IMO.

I don't even think it's a hard choice. I'd easily take Josh Green.

[stormi]

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Seems like such a Philadelphia pick tbh

[Negrodamus]

As time has gone by, I’m very not interested in Riller, especially over some of these other options at the same spot.

[stormi]

His release is unique, and he's super old. A career 80% college ft shooter is nice and he's monster at getting to the line and creating his own shot. Him measuring in at 6'1 and not the 6'3 expected is such a downer. See the FVV comparisons a lot due to their build and coming from mid major programs, but Freddies one of the best guard defenders in the league on and off ball. Riller isn't anywhere near him in that department.

[Stanford]

Yeah, Riller is a guy I want in the second round, no doubt. Get him, guys