The Tomjas Thread

[Tomjas]

Haven’t checked the stats for this year but until now, every team that DeRozan has played for is statistically better with him on the bench

He’s the bizarro world RS Ben

[elchengue20]

Im not even sure I want Lillard THAT MUCH right now.

I mean, if I can trade Ben for Lillard. No brainer.

But if they ask more than Ben? Hmm…

Most I can give is Ben and Milton for Lillard.

Yep, i agree. When last season finished i was all in with bringing Lillard here.

But seeing how he's playing right now, and how much he sucked in the Olympics, and thiking he's an undersized scoring guard with average athleticisim who's already 31, and is owned a huge contract for the next 3-4 years.....yeah, i think i pass.

Like you sayed, at this point i would trade Ben for him, but i woudnt offer much more.

[theo42]

Im not even sure I want Lillard THAT MUCH right now.

I mean, if I can trade Ben for Lillard. No brainer.

But if they ask more than Ben? Hmm…

Most I can give is Ben and Milton for Lillard.

Yep, i agree. When last season finished i was all in with bringing Lillard here.

But seeing how he's playing right now, and how much he sucked in the Olympics, and thiking he's an undersized scoring guard with average athleticisim who's already 31, and is owned a huge contract for the next 3-4 years.....yeah, i think i pass.

Like you sayed, at this point i would trade Ben for him, but i woudnt offer much more.

This and also see how Maxey has played...his arrow is firmly pointed up while Lillard seems to be sideways or slightly pointed down..

[the_process]

Seems like the Dame noise is turning back up again...Simmons/Green/Maxey/2023 & 2027 FRPs for Dame/Covington.


Lillard(32)/Milton(16)
Thybulle(24)/Curry(24)
Covington(28)/Korkmaz(20)
Harris(32)/NIang(16)
Embiid(30)/Drummond(18)


Lillard/Milton/Springer
Thybulle/Curry/Joe
Covington/Korkmaz/whoever
Harris/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey

Cut Covington and Maxey out and yes.

[HotelVitale]

Leaked footage of Ben's psych intake with the Sixers today:

Watch on YouTube

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[eyeatoma]

Seems like the Dame noise is turning back up again...Simmons/Green/Maxey/2023 & 2027 FRPs for Dame/Covington.


Lillard(32)/Milton(16)
Thybulle(24)/Curry(24)
Covington(28)/Korkmaz(20)
Harris(32)/NIang(16)
Embiid(30)/Drummond(18)


Lillard/Milton/Springer
Thybulle/Curry/Joe
Covington/Korkmaz/whoever
Harris/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey

Not giving up Maxey especially after Dame's slow start.

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[ProcessDoctor]

Seems like the Dame noise is turning back up again...Simmons/Green/Maxey/2023 & 2027 FRPs for Dame/Covington.


Lillard(32)/Milton(16)
Thybulle(24)/Curry(24)
Covington(28)/Korkmaz(20)
Harris(32)/NIang(16)
Embiid(30)/Drummond(18)


Lillard/Milton/Springer
Thybulle/Curry/Joe
Covington/Korkmaz/whoever
Harris/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey

Not giving up Maxey especially after Dame's slow start.

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I think it's a buy-low, sell-high opportunity we should consider. If Portland said yes to that deal, would you actually retract after this whole debacle?

Edit: I think we'd be the favorites to come out of the East with that trade. We have 3 years to win a title with Embiid IMO. Looks like Dame has a similar window.

[WindyCityBorn]

Haven’t checked the stats for this year but until now, every team that DeRozan has played for is statistically better with him on the bench

He’s the bizarro world RS Ben

That’s definitely not the case this season.

[Negrodamus]

It’s because Ben has never led a team by himself before. Replace DeRozan with Ben on the Raptors and the team is probably worse.

[Black Mage]

I don't really think we can be choosers at this point. I'd be fine with Maxey being our starting PG and I'd love to get a wing defender, Jaylen Brown would have been nice, but whatever deal nets fair value, even if it means Maxey goes to the bench should be considered.

[Black Mage]

Portland lost again, the Neil Olshey investigation and Lillard shows signs of playing through injury issues.

This summer Covington, Nurkic, Zeller and Simons (RFA) will all be free agents, while Lillard, CJ, Powell, Nance and Little already take up 107 million of their cap.
So once again, they have no option other than resigning as many player as possible, while inevitably lose some of those free agents due to looming luxury tax.

They have to reallocate some money, Lillard, CJ, Powell and Simons have too many overlapping skills. I wonder what Simons could do with a higher usage rate.

Honestly, I think the rumor that Lillard wants to go to the Knicks is accurate and he's just waiting until Dec 15 then the bulk of the Knick's contracts can be moved. I just get the vibe at this point that Dame is more into his brand than actually wanting to win.

[mjkvol]

Seems like the Dame noise is turning back up again...Simmons/Green/Maxey/2023 & 2027 FRPs for Dame/Covington.

No deal. Simmons/Green/Milton and a pick I'll do in a second, but at this point Maxey has to be off the table.

[Black Mage]

Seems like the Dame noise is turning back up again...Simmons/Green/Maxey/2023 & 2027 FRPs for Dame/Covington.

No deal. Simmons/Green/Milton and a pick I'll do in a second, but at this point Maxey has to be off the table.

Sixers fans need to take the red pill when it comes to Covington. He's cooked and is not even close to the guy that used to play for us and even then he was getting smoked by wings to the point we had to bench him.

[mjkvol]

Seems like the Dame noise is turning back up again...Simmons/Green/Maxey/2023 & 2027 FRPs for Dame/Covington.

No deal. Simmons/Green/Milton and a pick I'll do in a second, but at this point Maxey has to be off the table.

Sixers fans need to take the red pill when it comes to Covington. He's cooked and is not even close to the guy that used to play for us and even then he was getting smoked by wings to the point we had to bench him.

Agreed, but if getting Lillard for that price means taking Covington as part of the deal? Lillard was never my first choice due to age and contract, but at this point isn't that deal without having to include Maxey or Thybulle worth the shot?

[eyeatoma]

Seems like the Dame noise is turning back up again...Simmons/Green/Maxey/2023 & 2027 FRPs for Dame/Covington.


Lillard(32)/Milton(16)
Thybulle(24)/Curry(24)
Covington(28)/Korkmaz(20)
Harris(32)/NIang(16)
Embiid(30)/Drummond(18)


Lillard/Milton/Springer
Thybulle/Curry/Joe
Covington/Korkmaz/whoever
Harris/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey

Not giving up Maxey especially after Dame's slow start.

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I think it's a buy-low, sell-high opportunity we should consider. If Portland said yes to that deal, would you actually retract after this whole debacle?

Edit: I think we'd be the favorites to come out of the East with that trade. We have 3 years to win a title with Embiid IMO. Looks like Dame has a similar window.

If Maxey continues to show improvement. It'll be very difficult. I'd want someone like Simons or Nasser Little. Lillard's slow start has me worried.

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[JudahMax]

Fairly obvious any team would be interested in Simmons as long as they don’t have to give up any of their core pieces.

With exception of maybe Portland (CJ being a core piece). But that’s only because they have norm Powell who overlaps most of what CJ already does.

That problem for other teams fans who just trade Simmons for role players and future picks is sixers are not in a rebuilding or tanking situation And Simmons in long term contract.

Never in the history of nba trades that’s i know of has a team been forced by a player (or his agent) to trade him involving a player of Simmons age (25) long term contract (4 years) on a competing team coming off a 1 seed. Never.

Most teams would trade one of their core disgruntled players either have them less than 2 years left in contract or in rebuilding mode.

Ben Simmons for lillard straight up

[Tomjas]

Spurs put 130 on the Kings

No idea why Luke Walton still has a job

Blazers, Pelicans, Raptors and Pacers all lose while Timberwolves looking like they are going to as well

All good

[76ciology]

Leaked footage of Ben's psych intake with the Sixers today:

Watch on YouTube

;ab_channel=quiteliteraryawesome

[76ciology]

Spurs put 130 on the Kings

No idea why Luke Walton still has a job

Blazers, Pelicans, Raptors and Pacers all lose while Timberwolves looking like they are going to as well

All good

Because there really aren’t that many good coaches in the league.

By good coaches i mean coaches who can make the team play its best based on the cards handed to them by their GM

Look at the new coaches.. chauncey billups.. steve nash.. these are experienced guys. But their experience is not as coaches. With the new rule change, they will struggle because the game got more complicated compared to the last two seasons when you can just let a guy bring down the ball and pull up for a jumper after the 2 man game. This explains why Nets, Blazers and Celtics are struggling.

Then theres guys like Dwayne Casey or Alvin Gentry, who are in 1000 shades of mediocrity.

You aren’t going to get guys like Spo or Pop. These are treasures for their franchise.

[76ciology]

Speaking about Maxey.

I think Maxey can just bomb away and average 20 on around 20 shots a game.

But the team is preventing him to be that for the team and his own sake. They’re trying to train him to be a point guard the guard a coach can insert when the game is getting out of hand. They’re teaching him when to be aggressive and when to just settle things down and get the other guys involved.

Another thing is he’s not THAT good enough right now, so he’s picking his games or his spots to show his stuff.