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Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz

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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1102 » by Ericb5 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:00 am

Sixers1980 wrote:Let's not forget that Hinkie got this pick back from Orlando for the Payton trade. The swap would have never been in play.


Not really. Our 2017 pick was protected,


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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1103 » by KL78192020 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:01 am

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Kudos to Colangelo for not giving up both picks. But the protections actually benefit Boston. Essentially we get the Sacramento pick unprotected and if LA falls between 2-5 we get an Extra shot to guarantee a Top 5 pick.


The way I read it is you get 2-5 next year or you get Sacramento's unprotected. I don't think you can possibly get both.


Yes its only one pick. I am just referring to why the protection benefits the Celtics.


So lets say the lakers get the 6th, it becomes the Sac pic, and what if the Kings get the 10th pick in 2019? Who knows. So many variables.
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1104 » by TFK » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:02 am

So, if the protections as reported by Bodner are true, is it fair to say that the Lakers actually being mediocre next year (say like the 10-14 pick) is worst case scenario for us?

I love the trade, I just wish there wasn't the 6-30 non-protection on the Lakers pick. I'd rather have the Kings unprotected '19 pick then a 6-30 pick from Lakers next year.
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1105 » by wainseven » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:02 am

I am glad we end up paying fair value for fultz, and hopefully BC now doesn't see the need to sign a max deal with lowry
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1106 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:02 am

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Post#1107 » by wainseven » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:04 am

TFK wrote:So, if the protections as reported by Bodner are true, is it fair to say that the Lakers actually being mediocre next year (say like the 10-14 pick) is worst case scenario for us?

I love the trade, I just wish there wasn't the 6-30 non-protection on the Lakers pick. I'd rather have the Kings unprotected '19 pick then a 6-30 pick from Lakers next year.


In theory the kings could be a lot better after this and next year's draft which gives celtics a late lotto pick in 19
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Post#1108 » by the_process » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:05 am

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Not much else he can do before the draft. Probably the Celtics, but not us.


Yeah, I'm pretty sure all the extra maneuvering is on Boston's end.

Although, if BC wanted to trade 1 for AD... I'd be okay with it. :rofl:
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1109 » by sixers hoops » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:05 am

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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1110 » by Eyeamok » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:06 am

If the Kings pick swap did not come into effect, I wonder what we would have had to give up to make this deal work picking at #5?
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1111 » by Skates » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:07 am

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The way I read it is you get 2-5 next year or you get Sacramento's unprotected. I don't think you can possibly get both.


Yes its only one pick. I am just referring to why the protection benefits the Celtics.


So lets say the lakers get the 6th, it becomes the Sac pic, and what if the Kings get the 10th pick in 2019? Who knows. So many variables.


The Sixers traded unsure future value for the sureness of getting the guy they wanted and needed. The Celtics stockpiled another asset without full surety, but have enough reason to believe the eventual pick will be somewhere in the next two lotteries. Sixers gave up value, but kept some of the stack of chips in place. Good deal both ways.
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1112 » by HeadEast76 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:09 am

We just gave up most of the 'upside' of our 2 best draft assets (I believe our philly picks will have less draft value than LA/SAC over the next 2 years - hopefully we're in the playoffs). Yes - we protected next year's #1 (I'd guess that's a <5% chance for the LA pick). But we lose the 2-5 'sweet spot' (say 33% chance). And if the LA transfer doesn't happen we give up the unprotected SAC 19 pick and all (100%) of it's upside. I really hope the LA pick transfers next year but I think it's more likely we'll get a 6-14 pick next year and then have no SAC pick in 19.
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1113 » by TFK » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:16 am

wainseven wrote:
TFK wrote:So, if the protections as reported by Bodner are true, is it fair to say that the Lakers actually being mediocre next year (say like the 10-14 pick) is worst case scenario for us?

I love the trade, I just wish there wasn't the 6-30 non-protection on the Lakers pick. I'd rather have the Kings unprotected '19 pick then a 6-30 pick from Lakers next year.


In theory the kings could be a lot better after this and next year's draft which gives celtics a late lotto pick in 19


In theory, anything is possible. But like I said, I'd rather take my chances with a Kings unprotected pick in 2019 than settling for a late lottery pick from Lakers next year.

So here's to hoping Lakers finish with a top 5 pick next year (so either we land #1 or we get Kings '19 pick)
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Post#1114 » by Infinite Llamas » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:19 am

Obvs it's our long term goal to create two powerhouses in the Atlantic (sorry Toronto). Titanic division never again!
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1115 » by Skates » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:21 am

The Kings still have Vivek and Vlade, so who knows, but they will have two lottery picks in a very solid top ten this year, Hield, Skal and WCS looked good after Boogie left last year and they will add another lottery pick next year. I see them as mid to late lottery in 2019, though luck of the ping pong ballls can make or break any lottery pick.
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1116 » by joshuapending » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:21 am

What does this mean for Ben? If he now has the ball out of his hands for a long time his major skills are really deminished.


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Post#1117 » by HotelVitale » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:22 am

HeadEast76 wrote:We just gave up most of the 'upside' of our 2 best draft assets (I believe our philly picks will have less draft value than LA/SAC over the next 2 years - hopefully we're in the playoffs). Yes - we protected next year's #1 (I'd guess a that's a <5% chance for the LA pick)
Hmm, that means you're counting on the Lakers being the 7th or 8th worst team next year? That' the only way we'd have less than a 5% chance at keeping the #1 overall next year. Could happen but you seem more certain about it than you should be--Nets and Kings are the only teams that seem as bad as the Lakers now, and they both also have a lot more cap space to blow this offseason. I'd say we have a 12-15% chance of keeping the 1st pick (the odds if the Lakers finish with the 3rd or 4th worst pick) and probably about a 60-65% chance we lose it since it's in that 2-5 range. Short of an early Paul George trade, I don't think the Lakers have a clear path to being better than the Nets, Suns, Kings, AND two other teams (maybe ORL?).
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Post#1118 » by ckchen » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:24 am

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I'm fairly sure all of the manuevering is just Boston trying to turn all of those picks into Jimmy Butler. Maybe this is a variation of the "we kick in Okafor" rumors we heard earlier to make it officially a 3 team deal. I doubt most people would care much.
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1119 » by Skates » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:26 am

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Not much else he can do before the draft. Probably the Celtics, but not us.


Okafor, moving/consolidating some second rounders, maybe both. Bigger moves for the C's I imagine, but the Sixers still have some work to do. If they go after Butler then Okafor to Chicsgo becomes more of a possibility in the same or a separate trade.
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1120 » by Sixers1980 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:42 am

Ericb5 wrote:
Sixers1980 wrote:Let's not forget that Hinkie got this pick back from Orlando for the Payton trade. The swap would have never been in play.


Not really. Our 2017 pick was protected,

Where was is protected?
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