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Post#1101 » by syntax » Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:27 pm

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Post#1102 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:57 am

While watching the G3 of the Hawks-Bucks game. I remember a discussion about a topic here. How we should have used our size.

But here’s something to think about..

Are we really big?

Do you realize that Hawks’ big unit of Trae/Huerter/Galo/Collins/Capela is a lot bigger than our “big line-up”?

If Hawks can run an offense like a small ball and match-up our size, how can you beat them?

Ben is not really big. Big PFs are guys like Giannis and Siakam. He’s just average. I even doubt if he can defend Collins in the paint.

Tobi is not a PF. He’s like 6’7”. He’s more like a tall SG or a SF.

If we can’t match the offense of a team playing small and can’t play big, how can you beat the top teams in the league?

You look at the Bucks and that is really a big team. Brolo and giannis are giants. Middleton is a 6’9 SG. Jrue is also big. Bucks is the “multi positional” team we’re trying to be
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Re: The Playoffs Thread 

Post#1103 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:59 am

2018 Celtics
2019 Raptors
2021 Hawks

Common denominator? They’re bigger than us. Be bigger than us and you take away Ben’s effectiveness.
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Re: The Playoffs Thread 

Post#1104 » by cool93 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:09 pm

76ciology wrote:2018 Celtics
2019 Raptors
2021 Hawks

Common denominator? They’re bigger than us. Be bigger than us and you take away Ben’s effectiveness.
Hawks definetly aren't bigger

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Post#1105 » by Stanford » Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:11 pm

cool93 wrote:Hawks definetly aren't bigger


I think he makes the point well that the Hawks are functionally bigger.
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Post#1106 » by DCasey91 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:13 pm

76ciology is smoking something tonight lol.

Harris ain’t 6”7 lol and Ben is massive

We had the Raptors in 2019 (Bench sucked ballsack lol)

Our size is the least of our troubles it’s just that those with size on our list, they don’t know or don’t want to use it properly.
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Post#1107 » by DCasey91 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:14 pm

Hawk have Trae and Bogi and somehow they both got hidden really well. Good job

Our guards are small if that’s what is being pointed at.
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Post#1108 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:17 pm

DCasey91 wrote:76ciology is smoking something tonight lol.

Harris ain’t 6”7 lol and Ben is massive

We had the Raptors in 2019 (Bench sucked ballsack lol)

Our size is the least of our troubles it’s just that those with size on our list, they don’t know or don’t want to use it properly.


Tobi is just 6’7.5”, check his official measurement. This is why he can’t back down bogdanovic

Ben is not massive. He is 6’9” with short arms (only 6’9” wingspan) he’s effective length is not that big. Maybe on your standard massive is 6’9. Massive PFs are Siakam, Giannis and AD.

Thats why we keep losing. We think we’re massive when we’re really not compared to really big teams.

Look at the Lakers last season. They had AD at PF and LeBron at SF. Either McGee or D12 at C. That’s big.

Collins is 6’10 with almost 7’ wingspan.
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Post#1109 » by Stanford » Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:18 pm

DCasey91 wrote:Ben is massive


Who cares? His size doesn't create an advantage, at least not offensively. Huerter used his size to create against Seth on every possession and they won because of it. Ben wouldn't even dunk the ball with no one between him and the rim. He may as well be Chris Jericho's height.
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Post#1110 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:22 pm

Stanford wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:Ben is massive


Who cares? His size doesn't create an advantage, at least not offensively. Huerter used his size to create against Seth on every possession and they won because of it. Ben wouldn't even dunk the ball with no one between him and the rim. He may as well be Chris Jericho's height.


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Post#1111 » by zaz102 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:24 pm

76ciology wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:76ciology is smoking something tonight lol.

Harris ain’t 6”7 lol and Ben is massive

We had the Raptors in 2019 (Bench sucked ballsack lol)

Our size is the least of our troubles it’s just that those with size on our list, they don’t know or don’t want to use it properly.


Tobi is just 6’7.5”, check his official measurement. This is why he can’t back down bogdanovic

Ben is not massive. He is 6’9” with short arms he’s effective length is not that big. Maybe on your standard massive is 6’9. Massive PFs are Siakam, Giannis and AD.

Thats why we keep losing. We think we’re massive when we’re really not compared to really big teams.

Look at the Lakers last season. They had AD at PF and LeBron at SF. Either McGee or D12 at C. That’s big.



Collins is 6’10 with almost 7’ wingspan.
I think Lakers success has more to do with how good AD and LeBron are.

Replacing Curry out there with Howard would not have helped. This may be hyperbole but gets the point across I think.
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Post#1112 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:35 pm

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76ciology wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:76ciology is smoking something tonight lol.

Harris ain’t 6”7 lol and Ben is massive

We had the Raptors in 2019 (Bench sucked ballsack lol)

Our size is the least of our troubles it’s just that those with size on our list, they don’t know or don’t want to use it properly.


Tobi is just 6’7.5”, check his official measurement. This is why he can’t back down bogdanovic

Ben is not massive. Maybe on your standard massive is 6’9. Massive PFs are Siakam, Giannis and AD.

Thats why we keep losing. We think we’re massive when we’re really not compared to really big teams.

Look at the Lakers last season. They had AD at PF and LeBron at SF. Either McGee or D12 at C. That’s big.

Collins is 6’10 with almost 7’ wingspan.
I think Lakers success has more to do with how good AD and LeBron are.

Replacing Curry out there with Howard would not have helped. This may be hyperbole but gets the point across I think.


Yes its because AD and Lebron are really good. But they also can play big and small. They’re versatile.

You need versatility to create mismatches. And it’s a lot lethal if you have superstars like AD and Bron.

Let’s say we are facing the Lakers. Let’s say Lakers have an Embiid clone on the court.

So Embiid will be on Embiid clone.

Who defends AD? Ben?
Can Tobi defend Bron? Bron is bigger than Tobi.

Even say you have Harrell instead of Embiid clone.

So Biid will be on AD.
Ben will be on Bron
Tobi will be on Harrell? Harrell can attack Tobi.

Even say you have McGee..

So Biid will be on AD.
Ben will be on Bron.
Bron plays 2 man game with McGee, how can Tobi deflect the lob to McGee?

You see what I mean?

It’s the MJ-Pippen dynamic. MJ is great by himself. But because of Pippen, some teams would place their SF on Pip because of Pip’s size that creates a lot of mismatch for MJ when SGs back then like Hershey Hawkins or Hornacek were small.

Back to our team..

Tobi and Ben were not having any mismatches because their size advantage was took away by a bigger forward duo of the Hawks.

So sixers has to rely on constant ISOs on Embiid, Seth screenplay and some Tobi PnR.
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Re: The Playoffs Thread 

Post#1113 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:38 pm

If you’re not gonna score as good as other teams on PnR.

And you can’t play big that gets you extra possessions. What chance do you have?
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Post#1114 » by 76ciology » Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:53 pm

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Post#1115 » by GoSixersBro » Sat Jul 3, 2021 4:36 pm

GoSixersBro wrote:Opponent aside, I am just eager to see if Ben Simmons will finally have his breakout moment in the Playoffs while at the same time not be exposed like in 2018 and 2019.


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Post#1116 » by Ferry Avenue » Sat Jul 3, 2021 5:59 pm

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What could have been.

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Maxey steps in and does that no problem.
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Post#1117 » by Kobblehead » Sat Jul 3, 2021 6:17 pm

Stanford wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:Ben is massive


Who cares? His size doesn't create an advantage, at least not offensively. Huerter used his size to create against Seth on every possession and they won because of it. Ben wouldn't even dunk the ball with no one between him and the rim. He may as well be Chris Jericho's height.

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Re: The Playoffs Thread 

Post#1118 » by Kobblehead » Sun Jul 4, 2021 12:07 pm

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ProcessDoctor wrote:Why is my gut telling me this is the year Milwaukee makes it to the Finals?

I have a similar feeling.

Bucks are top 10 in both offensive and defensive efficiency and with the addition of Jrue Holiday, they probably have enough shotcreating to score consistently in the halfcourt.

Bucks are the best all-around team in the East. We could very well have a Bucks vs. Jazz/Suns Finals. Good basketball, but the ratings would be dogpoop.

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Re: The Playoffs Thread 

Post#1119 » by sixers hoops » Mon Jul 5, 2021 11:24 pm

76ciology wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:76ciology is smoking something tonight lol.

Harris ain’t 6”7 lol and Ben is massive

We had the Raptors in 2019 (Bench sucked ballsack lol)

Our size is the least of our troubles it’s just that those with size on our list, they don’t know or don’t want to use it properly.


Tobi is just 6’7.5”, check his official measurement. This is why he can’t back down bogdanovic

Ben is not massive. He is 6’9” with short arms (only 6’9” wingspan) he’s effective length is not that big. Maybe on your standard massive is 6’9. Massive PFs are Siakam, Giannis and AD.

Thats why we keep losing. We think we’re massive when we’re really not compared to really big teams.

Look at the Lakers last season. They had AD at PF and LeBron at SF. Either McGee or D12 at C. That’s big.

Collins is 6’10 with almost 7’ wingspan.


I think the reason we keep losing is because our halfcourt offense isn’t very good. Several 4th quarters against the Hawks, we would go 5+ minutes without scoring. Other teams get easy buckets to get them out of scoring droughts. If Seth Curry didn’t get red hot, things could’ve been a lot worse, and I only mention that because Seth isn’t even one of our supposed stars.

Generating offense in the 4th quarter of playoff games, when the other team is locked in to make big stops, it is difficult for us to consistently score. Good guards can often score or get to the line to slow the damage. Jo doesn’t really operate quickly on offense and he is turnover prone when he tries to dribble, so it seems like it is much more difficult for him to create his own shot than a Durant, Giannis, Dame, etc. Tobias often came up small in those big spots in the playoffs.

Basketball is a game of runs, lead changes, and lineup changes throughout the course of a game, but in the 4th quarter of playoff games, teams get their best players in the game and turn up the defensive pressure. We are not built to consistently win those matchups. We need Jo to catch fire. Shake gets hot one game. Curry was huge in a few games. Ultimately we don’t have the offensive firepower to win tough, close games in the playoffs.
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Re: The Playoffs Thread 

Post#1120 » by syntax » Tue Jul 6, 2021 12:13 am

76ciology wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:76ciology is smoking something tonight lol.

Harris ain’t 6”7 lol and Ben is massive

We had the Raptors in 2019 (Bench sucked ballsack lol)

Our size is the least of our troubles it’s just that those with size on our list, they don’t know or don’t want to use it properly.


Tobi is just 6’7.5”, check his official measurement. This is why he can’t back down bogdanovic

Ben is not massive. He is 6’9” with short arms (only 6’9” wingspan) he’s effective length is not that big. Maybe on your standard massive is 6’9. Massive PFs are Siakam, Giannis and AD.

Thats why we keep losing. We think we’re massive when we’re really not compared to really big teams.

Look at the Lakers last season. They had AD at PF and LeBron at SF. Either McGee or D12 at C. That’s big.

Collins is 6’10 with almost 7’ wingspan.


You'll try anything won't you.

Simmons is 6'10 with a 6'11 to 7 foot wingspan.

He reportedly has the highest vertical reach in the league at 12'6".

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