Ben Simmons Trade Thread

[BullyKing]

In what world, are NBA teams going to trade us their best player for Ben Simmons.

I don’t get it.

Same world where the Nets got James Harden with the best outgoing player being Caris Levert.

[Bum Adebayo]

Reading pages and pages of this thread makes me realize I'm happy we have a competent front office structure. Fans are approaching this as if we have to trade Simmons. We don't unless it makes sense. There's hardly been any deals proposed in this thread that makes sense.

As Morey told us at the beginning of the season, the roster you start with doesn't necessarily have to be the roster you finish with. If he doesn't find maximum value for Simmons, he's not going to trade him.

Embiid doesn't have many years left playing at or near MVP-level. You can't just wait one or two more years and just let it be. Embiid deserves much better than this, it is evident this is not going to work, time to move on. At most we wait until trade deadline, but not more than that, we need to move on from the Ben Simmons era.
Waiting is not going to improve anything too, he will be a year or two older and he has shown zero hints of being a player that will improve significantly on offense.

[Bum Adebayo]

Also keep in mind it's not just about winning, yes we could even win one championship with luck if it's a weak year with many players injured, kind of like what Suns will probably achieve this year. But the most important thing is having a sustainable and hard working team, Ben Simmons being in your team sends the message to the younger players that it's not important to work hard, he is a bad example for our locker room.

[LeonJordanJr24]

Please surround Embiid and Simmons frontcourt with shooting/ scoring/ speed and defense.

[zaz102]

In what world, are NBA teams going to trade us their best player for Ben Simmons.

I don’t get it.

Same world where the Nets got James Harden with the best outgoing player being Caris Levert.

In fact you could probably name more trades where a superstar got traded for a player worse than a Ben than better.

If there's not a weird reason to trade a superstar, then usually they aren't trading them.

Dame isn't getting traded unless he forces himself out and Blazers have to determine the best package for what they are looking for (guessing a complete rebuild but not sure).

[LeonJordanJr24]

Also keep in mind it's not just about winning, yes we could even win one championship with luck if it's a weak year with many players injured, kind of like what Suns will probably achieve this year. But the most important thing is having a sustainable and hard working team, Ben Simmons being in your team sends the message to the younger players that it's not important to work hard, he is a bad example for our locker room.

I'm sure Maxey isn't affected by bens work ethic . They aren't kids they are pros.

[Ferry Avenue]

Also keep in mind it's not just about winning, yes we could even win one championship with luck if it's a weak year with many players injured, kind of like what Suns will probably achieve this year. But the most important thing is having a sustainable and hard working team, Ben Simmons being in your team sends the message to the younger players that it's not important to work hard, he is a bad example for our locker room.

I'm sure Maxey isn't affected by bens work ethic . They aren't kids they are pros.

It depends on whether the player is intrinsically or extrinsically motivated.

An intrinsically motivated player won't be affected by Simmons's poor work ethic, no, but an extrinsically motivated one can observe that Simmons was paid big by the team without developing in important ways, and he may likewise strive to be paid by the team without similarly developing. If the team jettisons Simmons, however, then it's a shot across the bow for other players regarding that issue.

[Iverson Armband]

In what world, are NBA teams going to trade us their best player for Ben Simmons.

I don’t get it.

A world where an NBA team's best player demands a trade out and puts us on their list, and the ownership of that teams demands that they get an established all-NBA type in return.

It's not that fantastic.

Until one of those guys actually does that, discussing it as an option is less than a waste of time.

[elchengue20]

Also keep in mind it's not just about winning, yes we could even win one championship with luck if it's a weak year with many players injured, kind of like what Suns will probably achieve this year. But the most important thing is having a sustainable and hard working team, Ben Simmons being in your team sends the message to the younger players that it's not important to work hard, he is a bad example for our locker room.

I'm sure Maxey isn't affected by bens work ethic . They aren't kids they are pros.

It depends on whether the player is intrinsically or extrinsically motivated.

An intrinsically motivated player won't be affected by Simmons's poor work ethic, no, but an extrinsically motivated one can observe that Simmons was paid big by the team without developing in important ways, and he may likewise strive to be paid by the team without similarly developing. If the team jettisons Simmons, however, then it's a shot across the bow for other players regarding that issue.

I woundnt be worried about Maxey. Kid wants to be as good as he can. Also he knows he isnt a 6'10 phenom, he has to work hard.

Plus, if you have half a brain watching Simmons not living up to 50% of his potential is a great example of what you should NOT do.

[Stanford]

Until one of those guys actually does that, discussing it as an option is less than a waste of time.

I hate to break this to you, but it's all a waste of time.

[eyeatoma]

In what world, are NBA teams going to trade us their best player for Ben Simmons.

I don’t get it.

A world where an NBA team's best player demands a trade out and puts us on their list, and the ownership of that teams demands that they get an established all-NBA type in return.

It's not that fantastic.

Until one of those guys actually does that, discussing it as an option is less than a waste of time.

It has been the norm in the NBA for a better part of a decade.

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[LeonJordanJr24]

Imma keep ah bean. Ben should me the point power forward surround my Embiid and shooters/ creators and athletic defenders who run.

[Iverson Armband]

Until one of those guys actually does that, discussing it as an option is less than a waste of time.

I hate to break this to you, but it's all a waste of time.

To be fair, I said less lol

[Iverson Armband]

A world where an NBA team's best player demands a trade out and puts us on their list, and the ownership of that teams demands that they get an established all-NBA type in return.

It's not that fantastic.

Until one of those guys actually does that, discussing it as an option is less than a waste of time.

It has been the norm in the NBA for a better part of a decade.

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Not really.

Banking on it to happen every year is a stretch.

[eyeatoma]

Until one of those guys actually does that, discussing it as an option is less than a waste of time.

It has been the norm in the NBA for a better part of a decade.

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Not really.

Banking on it to happen every year is a stretch.

What was the last trade of a star for a star and they were both still good?

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[ExplosionsInDaSky]

It has been the norm in the NBA for a better part of a decade.

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Not really.

Banking on it to happen every year is a stretch.

What was the last trade of a star for a star and they were both still good?

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Derozen for Kawhi was a star for a star.

[Mik317]

stars tend to be traded for tons of stuff...but very rarely a 1-1 level player.

Ben sucks in the playoffs...but he is still a floor riser who is also 24 years old. That has value.

that being said...I don't think any stars are on the market. Dame's hissy fit was simply to distance himself from twitter morons being mad at him for Chauncey. He wanted him or Kidd as a coach and probably will stick it out one more season if only for his sake. Until he actually asks for a trade...its nothing more than typical do better posturing or ESPN desperately wanting him to either help Bron or truly bring the Knicks back.

AS stated IMO the best hypothetical Ben trades are ones for young prospects in search of the next Harden....but those are a tough sell to Embiid and unfortunately Doc....so its not happening. Anything else feels like lateral moves made for the sake of making moves....which could help...i guess but aren't that exciting.

I feel like we are going to basically run it back and focus mainly on fixing the bench and hoping a full offseason adds a new wrinkle to things. Like we will probably add a PG but like just an okay one and not the gamechanger people lust for.

idk

[eyeatoma]

Not really.

Banking on it to happen every year is a stretch.

What was the last trade of a star for a star and they were both still good?

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Derozen for Kawhi was a star for a star.

Yeah that was pretty rare, which was my point.

[eyeatoma]

stars tend to be traded for tons of stuff...but very rarely a 1-1 level player.

Ben sucks in the playoffs...but he is still a floor riser who is also 24 years old. That has value.

that being said...I don't think any stars are on the market. Dame's hissy fit was simply to distance himself from twitter morons being mad at him for Chauncey. He wanted him or Kidd as a coach and probably will stick it out one more season if only for his sake. Until he actually asks for a trade...its nothing more than typical do better posturing or ESPN desperately wanting him to either help Bron or truly bring the Knicks back.

AS stated IMO the best hypothetical Ben trades are ones for young prospects in search of the next Harden....but those are a tough sell to Embiid and unfortunately Doc....so its not happening. Anything else feels like lateral moves made for the sake of making moves....which could help...i guess but aren't that exciting.

I feel like we are going to basically run it back and focus mainly on fixing the bench and hoping a full offseason adds a new wrinkle to things. Like we will probably add a PG but like just an okay one and not the gamechanger people lust for.

idk

Too early for this take. Let's rehash this in September. We're not even in the offseason yet.

[SixthStreet]

I think I'm at the point that if we can't get one of the Jalen's in the draft as part of a Simmons deal I'm keeping him and seeing what his summer of "skill development" looks like.