76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2

[Jailblazers7]

I think Dinwiddie would be a fine addition & he would start playing better for a new team almost immediately. There is open speculation that he essentially quit on the Nets & is refusing to shoot the ball.

https://www.netsdaily.com/2024/1/19/24044135/what-is-going-on-with-spencer-dinwiddie

[FireMorey]

I don't think the Sixers can win a championship with Embiid and Maxey as your two best players. You need someone better than Maxey and not as good as Embiid to put them over the top. I don't see any realistic way the team can win a title unless one of those guys falls into their laps.

I've been scouring social media and reading the opinions of a lot of fans who are angry with the trade deadline and I'm saying to myself how short are the memories of everyone? Did everyone forget what you were saying back in May when the Sixers choked a 3-2 series lead to the Celtics?

"You'll never win with Embiid as your best player"
"Maxey isn't ready to be your go to perimeter scorer on a championship team"
"The Sixers need a guard or wing who can be the alpha on a championship team and get buckets in big games and won't win until they get one"
"These guys are a bunch of choking losers, and I have no faith they'll ever win a championship"

And now suddenly people wanted Morey to go all in with this team? So, what, everyone forgot about the last several years and now thinks you can win with this same core again? How many playoff failures do they need to have before people realize they won't win unless they get that alpha dominant perimeter scorer?

I think people like the comfort of convincing themselves they have a chance every year. It's like the patient who needs surgery, but instead of getting it, goes around to holistic clinics to try to heal their injury, and every time it doesn't work, they convince themselves that the next one will because they don't want to get surgery.

This team wasn't winning anything. They probably aren't winning anything no matter what, I think they've simply squandered too many chances, but I think they're hoping there's that outside shot someone shakes free they can land to put them over the top. They've already tried the go all in strategy. That's what they did with Harden and tried previously. That hasn't worked either. Can you honestly blame them for trying this last ditch effort approach when all else has failed? I don't know how many times people want the Sixers to beat their heads against the wall with a formula that doesn't work. At least this will be the first time in ages they'll have cap flexibility, let's see what they do with it. And if they aren't able to do something with it to get what they need, well guess what, then they're right back where they started anyway.

[phillynative]

The Springer thing bothers me, but if it was to any other of the 28 teams I'd be a little forgiving. I'm sure another squad would've made that deal. Literally any other team than those green ****.

Yea why are we trading your best perimeter defenders to our rival teams.

I wasn't huge on Springer but he was likely the only player on the team that could possibly defend all four of Jrue, White, Brown and Tatum. The Celtics knew that and was smart enough to take a potential future lock down defender from a (psuedo) rival team.

When is the last time our rival teams(Celtics, Knicks,
Bucks) traded anything of value to us?

[Skates]

The deadline today likely was a quiet way to clear Reed's contract of the books next year since advancing that far in the playoffs to activate his option is much less likely now.

[phillynative]

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Once again I won't blame Jo for asking out at some point. This organisation has failed him on so many levels.

At this point it would be a relief. They are just wasting elite talent with failed moves, one after another. This organization constantly gets outclassed. I hope the ticket sales drop the second half of this season.

[youngcrev]

Could the people excited about the offseason plan please tell me what that looks like?

Is anyone excited about it?

I think it's just more about putting themselves in a position to make a move should the opportunity present itself. The cap space part in particular seems unlikely to bear fruit, but maybe someone unexpectedly becomes available on that front. And having 5 available 1sts puts them in solid position if a star asks out via trade.

If Morey can pull something off, I'll be excited. The possibility doesn't excite me all that much though.

[fkd215]

I keep coming back to the fact that we have literally two (2) contracts on the roster next year. Morey is going to be able to entirely reshape this team according to whatever he wants to do. Can he put together a winning roster? Who knows. I'm less confident in him than I used to be. The vaunted $60M or whatever cap space is actually not a ton of resources to allocate for 13 players. But from his point of view, he gets to build a team with an MVP, the coach of his choosing, a decent amount of resources, and an almost entirely clean slate. That's a GM's dream. (Hope it's not our nightmare...)

[Foshan]

well this was disappointing to wake up to.

[Arsenal]

Biggest disappointment is we didn’t get rid of Martin. Obviously no one wants him.

[eyeatoma]

I keep coming back to the fact that we have literally two (2) contracts on the roster next year. Morey is going to be able to entirely reshape this team according to whatever he wants to do. Can he put together a winning roster? Who knows. I'm less confident in him than I used to be. The vaunted $60M or whatever cap space is actually not a ton of resources to allocate for 13 players. But from his point of view, he gets to build a team with an MVP, the coach of his choosing, a decent amount of resources, and an almost entirely clean slate. That's a GM's dream. (Hope it's not our nightmare...)

This is the only silver lining. We'll be a good team next year, but good enough to beat the Cs (the only team I'm worried about)? Need someone else on Maxey tier. As I said, I'd go hard at Miles Bridges if there are no trades or other players to be had. **** it, and let's just get actual talent. He's a POS but a talented one.

[phifans]

Morey again choose the dumbest way to rebuild this team.

And I'm not even that mad at Beverly & Springers' deal.

My only question is does he know anyone he may get by signing on free agency are actually not for "free" but at the expense of Tobi Melton and Hield ?

In other words can he actually get much better outcomes by signing in free agency with only $60M ?

[PhillyFan11]

Morey again choose the dumbest way to rebuild this team.

And I'm not even that mad at Beverly & Springers' deal.

My only question is does he know anyone he may get by signing on free agency are actually not for "free" but at the expense of Tobi Melton and Hield ?

In other words can he actually get much better outcomes by signing in free agency with only $60M ?

We will have bird rights on all 3 of those players. We could sign/trade for a max player and in theory still keep all 3. Hield and Melton for sure, we’ll see what kind of offers Tobi gets…

[Arsenal]

Get Bertans in here also. We desperately need a stretch big.

[fkd215]

Morey has created for himself the absolute most fun situation a GM could imagine. He has great foundations in Embiid, Maxey, and Nurse, and almost no constraints on what he wants to do. It's all on him, he can almost completely build it in his own image. Again, it's fantastic for him; will it be fantastic for the fans?

[Stanford]

Could the people excited about the offseason plan please tell me what that looks like?

Is anyone excited about it?

I think it's just more about putting themselves in a position to make a move should the opportunity present itself. The cap space part in particular seems unlikely to bear fruit, but maybe someone unexpectedly becomes available on that front. And having 5 available 1sts puts them in solid position if a star asks out via trade.

If Morey can pull something off, I'll be excited. The possibility doesn't excite me all that much though.

I guess I'm asking for someone to get creative and think of something exciting, because I'm not capable of it.

[phifans]

Morey again choose the dumbest way to rebuild this team.

And I'm not even that mad at Beverly & Springers' deal.

My only question is does he know anyone he may get by signing on free agency are actually not for "free" but at the expense of Tobi Melton and Hield ?

In other words can he actually get much better outcomes by signing in free agency with only $60M ?

We will have bird rights on all 3 of those players. We could sign/trade for a max player and in theory still keep all 3. Hield and Melton for sure, we’ll see what kind of offers Tobi gets…

Nah you can't keep Tobi and Hields' bird rights if you trade for or sign any big deal.

Maybe u can keep Melton's though.

[Black Mage]

Besides enjoying watching the predictable meltdowns that come every trade deadline.

I do wonder if there is internal belief that Joel isn't going to be available for the playoffs. If internally they strongly believe Joel won't be available; it explains most of these moves (save maybe Springer). Hield makes sense in that they grabbed his bird rights and now have an internal evaluation period for him and if they decide to pass they have option of working out a sign & trade. Everything else they did was clearing cap and collecting TPE's and draft capital.

I don't know what their summer plan is; it's quite possible they don't even know what the summer plan is. What happens if Joel doesn't respond well to the surgery? What happens if it looks like his knee starts to visibly look like Andrew Bynum's ugly face.

Once Joel hurt his knee I was of the mindset to punt this season. I just don't believe Joel will be in "playoff" shape and if he is it's because he rushed back. Is it really worth rushing him back, risking reinjury just to more than likely be bounced out of the 1st or 2nd round?

I'm not a fan of Morey, I wish the Sixers would grovel and offer Hinkie 20 mil a year just to lure him back. However, I kinda see where these moves are headed. It fills a need and buyout market gets us playoff vets so if Joel comes back we have a core. Morris/Kork/Bev were likely not ideal playoff rotation pieces. If something goes wrong with Joel it gives them a way to pivot hard in the summer.

[FireMorey]

For those who think Morey sucks, like myself, given all this freedom, there's no excuses anymore. If he can't build a championship roster around Embiid, he'll no longer be able to hide behind past GMs. And he'd hopefully be fired at that point so they could go in a different direction. If nothing else, it puts Morey in a sink or swim position.

[MoeGreene]

Maybe we start a prayer circle or find a voodoo priest so they don't resign Tobias? Bc that is just about the only way this year gets much worse.

Where's Jobu?

[ProcessDoctor]

**** that kinda sucked. Hopefully Drummond gets bought out.

Morey better have something up his sleeve this summer. I think he's probably planning on absorbing a contract into cap space rather than signing a LeBron or PG13. We'll know by the end of the offseason whether or not we're headed for another rebuild.