2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III

[Jailblazers7]

I’ve officially talked myself into a positive place with every possible player we can take at 3.

VJ - freak athlete and the best competitor in the draft. He’ll be a winning player at worst and a multi-time all star at best.

Ace - great athlete with immediate 3&D capabilities. Once he matures you hope he taps into his upside.

Tre - incredible shooter with some playmaking upside. Stinky defender but get him with a strength coach and we’ll get him to average-ish.

Kon - Gordon Hayward 2.0 on offense. Big and strong enough to hold up defensively.

Let draft night come so I can delete YouTube from my phone and stop pretending I know anything about talent evaluation.

[M2J]

Then why you want Ace?

Extremely athletic TWO-WAY wing with Insane shotmaking potential... like this:

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I can put together my HS and schoolyard mix tape and you'd swear I'd go D1. I can assure you, I wouldn't even be the water boy for a D3

Trust me.... We believe you.

Difference is, people watch Ace highlights from actual D1 and swear he can become Carmelo/Durant/Paul George worst case Rashard Lewis or MPJ....... So ....... There's that



Who are these people you ask? Durant Carmelo and Paul George

[OleSchool]

Extremely athletic TWO-WAY wing with Insane shotmaking potential... like this:

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I can put together my HS and schoolyard mix tape and you'd swear I'd go D1. I can assure you, I wouldn't even be the water boy for a D3

Trust me.... We believe you.

Difference is, people watch Ace highlights from actual D1 and swear he can become Carmelo/Durant/Paul George worst case Rashard Lewis or MPJ....... So ....... There's that



Who are these people you ask? Durant Carmelo and Paul George

Well let's fire Morey and hire Carmelo, since he's retired....

[ProcessDoctor]

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Thought back to a part in this video. Within the first minute, Giannis asks them each what position they play. Ace replies with "1-4, actually 1-5, it don't matter"

I feel so bad for whoever drafts him.

[Da Doctor]

Have the Sixers met with anyone else? All this VJ hype feels like smoke to get Charlotte to panic trade up with us

[okboomer]

Ace is the best player on a tanking team.

Future Seattle Supersonic or whatever the Las Vegas team is called in the next expansion draft .

[phifans]

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Thought back to a part in this video. Within the first minute, Giannis asks them each what position they play. Ace replies with "1-4, actually 1-5, it don't matter"

I feel so bad for whoever drafts him.

I want no part of this kid right now.

No matter how high his talent seems to be it won't be reached with such low bball iq.

[Arsenal]

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Thought back to a part in this video. Within the first minute, Giannis asks them each what position they play. Ace replies with "1-4, actually 1-5, it don't matter"

I feel so bad for whoever drafts him.

That’s called confidence. You know, something big time STAR players have, unlike limited role players.

[M2J]

I can put together my HS and schoolyard mix tape and you'd swear I'd go D1. I can assure you, I wouldn't even be the water boy for a D3

Trust me.... We believe you.

Difference is, people watch Ace highlights from actual D1 and swear he can become Carmelo/Durant/Paul George worst case Rashard Lewis or MPJ....... So ....... There's that



Who are these people you ask? Durant Carmelo and Paul George

Well let's fire Morey and hire Carmelo, since he's retired....

you gotta do what you gotta do bro.

[M2J]

Have the Sixers met with anyone else? All this VJ hype feels like smoke to get Charlotte to panic trade up with us

Nope. Still begging Ace



And trying to trade away from VJ

[76ciology]

Zach Lowe mentioned he’s been hearing that Tre Johnson is absolutely dominating workouts. Teams are coming away saying, “Oh my god… we knew he could shoot, but this guy can REALLY shoot.”

[Black Mage]

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Thought back to a part in this video. Within the first minute, Giannis asks them each what position they play. Ace replies with "1-4, actually 1-5, it don't matter"

I feel so bad for whoever drafts him.

That’s called confidence. You know, something big time STAR players have, unlike limited role players.

I never watched the video all the way through; but man it just reminds me of what Ace could become if he had the intangibles for it. That's a lot of smooth motion from a 6'9" guy.

Liked how tight and compact Harper's moves were. Not a lot of wasted motion or movement on his spins and gathers.

[Black Mage]

Zach Lowe mentioned he’s been hearing that Tre Johnson is absolutely dominating workouts. Teams are coming away saying, “Oh my god… we knew he could shoot, but this guy can REALLY shoot.”

It's never been about his shooting. Kid is special there. It's why I was high on him back in November. The defense tho... man if he had just shown anything, any kind of effort or grit, he'd be a lock at 3.

[76ciology]

Personally, I feel the value of the Sixers’ No. 3 pick is rising with all the Ace Bailey drama. His situation may have turned off some teams that were initially interested, creating scarcity at the top, which naturally increases the pick’s value. That also makes the possibility of the Sixers drafting VJ very real, especially for teams like the Hornets who are high on him and might now feel pressure to move up.

[okboomer]

Zach Lowe mentioned he’s been hearing that Tre Johnson is absolutely dominating workouts. Teams are coming away saying, “Oh my god… we knew he could shoot, but this guy can REALLY shoot.”

I like Tre, a major part of defense for guards if they have the physical tools is effort. He definitely has the frame, Id prefer VJ though if they draft Tre it's a good pick if they believe he has the mentality to defend and rebound which he did none of at Texas this year. He seemed to interview very well unlike Ace Brooks, so we will see.

[eyeatoma]

Zach Lowe mentioned he’s been hearing that Tre Johnson is absolutely dominating workouts. Teams are coming away saying, “Oh my god… we knew he could shoot, but this guy can REALLY shoot.”

It's never been about his shooting. Kid is special there. It's why I was high on him back in November. The defense tho... man if he had just shown anything, any kind of effort or grit, he'd be a lock at 3.

If he is a nuclear shooter you take him. At worst you have a 15 ppg scorer, at best you get an offense unto itself, and someone who is on a Klay/Ray Allen level of shooting.

[76ciology]

Zach Lowe mentioned he’s been hearing that Tre Johnson is absolutely dominating workouts. Teams are coming away saying, “Oh my god… we knew he could shoot, but this guy can REALLY shoot.”

It's never been about his shooting. Kid is special there. It's why I was high on him back in November. The defense tho... man if he had just shown anything, any kind of effort or grit, he'd be a lock at 3.

The main concern with him is obviously defense, but honestly, I’m even more worried about his scoring efficiency, which I’m not sure would meet Morey’s standards.

If I had to guess, even if he becomes an elite 3pt shooter, he still might not be highly valued in Morey’s standard for #1 scorer, if his free throw rate and finishing at the rim remain low.

On the defensive end, I think he’s coachable. He makes the right rotations and generally doesn’t lose his man if he doesn’t have to fight for screens. The issues are more about effort, lack of strength, and the absence of natural defensive instincts. Give him experience, add some strength and he’s a guy defense won’t hunt on defense because of his tools, good IQ (not necessarily means good defensive instinct), athleticism and strength.

I could see him eventually becoming a neutral defender. But if he’s not going to be just that on defense, then he needs to be a nuclear scorer, and to get there, his free throw rate and rim finishing need to take a real leap.

If you are drafting Tre, you are drafting him for his offense. If he’s a nuclear scorer, then he can just be a neutral defender and there’s a really good chance that he can be a neutral defender. But for a nuclear scorer, I think that he profiles as someone who settles a lot of jumpers than taking it to the rim and getting to the line.

[76ciology]

If Morey doesn’t believe Tre can make a real leap in getting to the rim and drawing fouls, then he needs to pass on him, no matter how tempting the Ray Allen comparisons are. To me, that kind of comp feels more like a nice way to just say Malik Beasley or Tim Hardaway Jr.

In today’s game, true primary or secondary scorers need to be able to put the ball on the floor and score at all three levels, including getting to the line and finishing at the rim. Without that, you’re likely going to have problems with your scoring efficiency.

But if Morey does see growth potential in that part of Tre’s game, then by all means, take him.

[M2J]

Zach Lowe mentioned he’s been hearing that Tre Johnson is absolutely dominating workouts. Teams are coming away saying, “Oh my god… we knew he could shoot, but this guy can REALLY shoot.”

It's never been about his shooting. Kid is special there. It's why I was high on him back in November. The defense tho... man if he had just shown anything, any kind of effort or grit, he'd be a lock at 3.

I like Tre #3 in terms of upside in this draft.


Philly just needs to focus on Dylan I think he's going to be the pick


If he is a nuclear shooter you take him. At worst you have a 15 ppg scorer, at best you get an offense unto itself, and someone who is on a Klay/Ray Allen level of shooting.

[76ciology]

Ask yourself, why does this conversation keep going in circles?

You say you need a nuclear scorer at #3, not just a utility guy. But the moment Tre comes up, the focus shifts entirely to his defense.

Here’s the real issue.. his offense isn’t at a “nuclear scorer” level yet. If he were putting up 25 PPG on close to 60% TS, no one would be obsessing over his defense. That’s because defense, while important, is more of an ancillary trait for a top three pick when the expectation is offensive star power.