2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc)

[76ciology]

I’ll be happy if he manages to get one of the ten best players.

He will. Problem for me is more of unrealistic expectations since many has overrate the LAL pick and for me it's went below expected outcome.

The pick is what it is, but you’re more confident in BC’s talent evaluation skills than I am at the moment.

Yes.

Built the Suns.
Got Raps top players.
Got the players to help BB and Jojo.

People around the team, specially BB, has high regard for BC.

Drafting Ben, Fultz, TLC, Korky and Bolden were highly praised and rational selections.

People here act like he committed genocide and all he did was drafted Bargnani and signing Landry Fields.

Wont argue with anyone regarding this and i'd rather have the results of his tenure speak for itself. Then we'll talk.

[the_process]

He will. Problem for me is more of unrealistic expectations since many has overrate the LAL pick and for me it's went below expected outcome.

The pick is what it is, but you’re more confident in BC’s talent evaluation skills than I am at the moment.

Yes.

Built the Suns.
Got Raps top players.
Got the players to help BB and Jojo.

People around the team, specially BB, has high regard for BC.

Drafting Ben, Fultz, TLC, Korky and Bolden were highly praised and rational selections.

People here act like he committed murder and all he did was drafted Bargnani and signing Landry Fields.

Wont argue with anyone regarding this and i'd rather have the results of his tenure speak for itself. Then we'll talk.

Traded up for Fultz. Traded up for Pasecniks. Sold all the 2nds. Not so praised and not so rational. Just saying.

[sixers hoops]

He will. Problem for me is more of unrealistic expectations since many has overrate the LAL pick and for me it's went below expected outcome.

The pick is what it is, but you’re more confident in BC’s talent evaluation skills than I am at the moment.

Yes.

Built the Suns.
Got Raps top players.
Got the players to help BB and Jojo.

People around the team, specially BB, has high regard for BC.

Drafting Ben, Fultz, TLC, Korky and Bolden were highly praised and rational selections.

People here act like he committed genocide and all he did was drafted Bargnani and signing Landry Fields.

Wont argue with anyone regarding this and i'd rather have the results of his tenure speak for itself. Then we'll talk.

Yeah. Ben wasn’t a skilled selection that instilled confidence in me regarding his ability to identify talent. The worst GMs in the league would’ve figured that out.

I haven’t given up on Fultz, but it looks horrible right now, and has me feeling negative. However, I think he can turn it around.

I loved the TLC and Korkmaz picks at the time, but highly praised and rational doesn’t ultimately equate to a good pick.

I am not worried about him picking someone that will seem good on draft night. I’m concerned about him picking someone who will actually be good on the NBA court.

[XtremeDunkz]

Trading up for Pasecniks will never make sense to me

[76ciology]

The pick is what it is, but you’re more confident in BC’s talent evaluation skills than I am at the moment.

Yes.

Built the Suns.
Got Raps top players.
Got the players to help BB and Jojo.

People around the team, specially BB, has high regard for BC.

Drafting Ben, Fultz, TLC, Korky and Bolden were highly praised and rational selections.

People here act like he committed murder and all he did was drafted Bargnani and signing Landry Fields.

Wont argue with anyone regarding this and i'd rather have the results of his tenure speak for itself. Then we'll talk.

Traded up for Fultz. Traded up for Pasecniks. Sold all the 2nds. Not so praised and not so rational. Just saying.

https://www.si.com/nba/2017/06/22/nba-draft-grades-players-teams-76ers-lakers-celtics

Most people are judging Pasecniks and Fultz on wrong sample size.

Judge the deal after it was done.
Judge the players atleast after they've played 12 games.

[sixers hoops]

Yes.

Built the Suns.
Got Raps top players.
Got the players to help BB and Jojo.

People around the team, specially BB, has high regard for BC.

Drafting Ben, Fultz, TLC, Korky and Bolden were highly praised and rational selections.

People here act like he committed murder and all he did was drafted Bargnani and signing Landry Fields.

Wont argue with anyone regarding this and i'd rather have the results of his tenure speak for itself. Then we'll talk.

Traded up for Fultz. Traded up for Pasecniks. Sold all the 2nds. Not so praised and not so rational. Just saying.

https://www.si.com/nba/2017/06/22/nba-draft-grades-players-teams-76ers-lakers-celtics

Most people are judging Pasecniks and Fultz on wrong sample size.

Judge the deal after it was done.
Judge the players atleast after they've played 12 games.

I agree. I’m willing to ultimately give him more time.

[sixers hoops]

Trading up for Pasecniks will never make sense to me

Honestly, I’ve never seen him play.

[76ciology]

You see if you guys keep complaining and the media joins the party, thats the time ownership and FO gets pressured and does short sighted moves to satisfy angry fans.

You'll say, they're too good to be caught up with murmurs. But look at the history of how teams stay mediocre.

The reason why we were able to keep kick the can down the road and take risks were because the fanbase are in line. That's why Hinkie was perfect for that phase.

But like it or not, BC is more experienced and has better track record in talent than Hinkie. Hinkie also won't be successful with the dirty FA game.

BC is one of the best guy for the job right now. Yes, maybe more famous mistakes but a lot more success. BC is not dumb enough to not be better with those mistakes.

I'd give the guys he acquire time to prove themselves. Let's see if BC can ATLEAST replicate our previous season success.

[hookshot199]

You see if you guys keep complaining and the media joins the party, thats the time ownership and FO gets pressured and does short sighted moves to satisfy angry fans.

You'll say, they're too good to be caught up with murmurs. But look at the history of how teams stay mediocre.

The reason why we were able to keep kick the can down the road and take risks were because the fanbase are in line. That's why Hinkie was perfect for that phase.

But like it or not, BC is more experienced and has better track record in talent than Hinkie. Hinkie also won't be successful with the dirty FA game.

BC is one of the best guy for the job right now. Yes, maybe more famous mistakes but a lot more success. BC is not dumb enough to not be better with those mistakes.

I'd give the guys he acquire time to prove themselves. Let's see if BC can ATLEAST replicate our previous season success.

BC is not good with asset management. And I hope he and Brown are watching Cleveland get drubbed by a defense-oriented team.

[76ciology]

You see if you guys keep complaining and the media joins the party, thats the time ownership and FO gets pressured and does short sighted moves to satisfy angry fans.

You'll say, they're too good to be caught up with murmurs. But look at the history of how teams stay mediocre.

The reason why we were able to keep kick the can down the road and take risks were because the fanbase are in line. That's why Hinkie was perfect for that phase.

But like it or not, BC is more experienced and has better track record in talent than Hinkie. Hinkie also won't be successful with the dirty FA game.

BC is one of the best guy for the job right now. Yes, maybe more famous mistakes but a lot more success. BC is not dumb enough to not be better with those mistakes.

I'd give the guys he acquire time to prove themselves. Let's see if BC can ATLEAST replicate our previous season success.

BC is not good with asset management. And I hope he and Brown are watching Cleveland get drubbed by a defense-oriented team.

You do know we can't draft all the guys and have like 20+ players on the roster right?

And before you judge the Okafor deal, I say look at what this board was saying about Okafor during the time BC had Okafor. I wouldnt say guys in realgm is smarter than Ainge.

It's not like he wasted multiple top 3 picks and traded generational players for depth.

[Sixers2125]

Looks like the Kings will get Ayton who I think is a great fit with them.

I'd be very surprised if the Sun's pass on Doncic when they just hired Doncics' old coach. I think they take Doncic and max Clint Capella and hope the Rockets don't match. That would be a pretty good team right there.

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[hookshot199]

You see if you guys keep complaining and the media joins the party, thats the time ownership and FO gets pressured and does short sighted moves to satisfy angry fans.

You'll say, they're too good to be caught up with murmurs. But look at the history of how teams stay mediocre.

The reason why we were able to keep kick the can down the road and take risks were because the fanbase are in line. That's why Hinkie was perfect for that phase.

But like it or not, BC is more experienced and has better track record in talent than Hinkie. Hinkie also won't be successful with the dirty FA game.

BC is one of the best guy for the job right now. Yes, maybe more famous mistakes but a lot more success. BC is not dumb enough to not be better with those mistakes.

I'd give the guys he acquire time to prove themselves. Let's see if BC can ATLEAST replicate our previous season success.

BC is not good with asset management. And I hope he and Brown are watching Cleveland get drubbed by a defense-oriented team.

You do know we can't draft all the guys and have like 20+ players on the roster right?

And before you judge the Okafor deal, I say look at what this board was saying about Okafor during the time BC had Okafor. I wouldnt say guys in realgm is smarter than Ainge.

It's not like he wasted multiple top 3 picks and traded generational players for depth.

Until Fultz plays we have to give BC an incomplete. And if we look at his draft history except for Bargnani, he's generally not a bad judge of talent. That said, I tend to see him willing to squander assets. And I definitely would like him to put more focus on defense. Maybe with the Celtics success he'll see the light.

[Skates]

Trading up for Pasecniks will never make sense to me

Honestly, I’ve never seen him play.

With any luck you never will.

[the_process]

Looks like the Kings will get Ayton who I think is a great fit with them.

I'd be very surprised if the Sun's pass on Doncic when they just hired Doncics' old coach. I think they take Doncic and max Clint Capella and hope the Rockets don't match. That would be a pretty good team right there.

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Nah. PHX will take Ayton. Monster sized, went to school there, supremely skilled, put up numbers. The kind of guy GM’s don’t want to be remembered for passing on.

[Wilfried]

Just hoping for our pick to stay at 10 and Sacramento jumping into the top 3.

You got your wish

[Aussiepiston1]

Looks like the Kings will get Ayton who I think is a great fit with them.

I'd be very surprised if the Sun's pass on Doncic when they just hired Doncics' old coach. I think they take Doncic and max Clint Capella and hope the Rockets don't match. That would be a pretty good team right there.

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Nah. PHX will take Ayton. Monster sized, went to school there, supremely skilled, put up numbers. The kind of guy GM’s don’t want to be remembered for passing on.

Could go either way I wouldn't be shocked at either scenario.

[Nyce_1]

Hey Philly,

Any interest in trading your 10th pick? What would you be wanting to get in return? I'm trying to see how I can get the Magic a 2nd pick in the lotto.

[JojoSlimbiid]

Hey Philly,

Any interest in trading your 10th pick? What would you be wanting to get in return? I'm trying to see how I can get the Magic a 2nd pick in the lotto.

Umm...no one here actually makes any decisions...what is this?

[phiphan]

Hey Philly,

Any interest in trading your 10th pick? What would you be wanting to get in return? I'm trying to see how I can get the Magic a 2nd pick in the lotto.

Umm...no one here actually makes any decisions...what is this?

Nyce_1 is actually Magic GM John Hammond. He's gaming out possible scenarios so maybe don't give him a hard time?

[Sixers2125]

Looks like the Kings will get Ayton who I think is a great fit with them.

I'd be very surprised if the Sun's pass on Doncic when they just hired Doncics' old coach. I think they take Doncic and max Clint Capella and hope the Rockets don't match. That would be a pretty good team right there.

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Nah. PHX will take Ayton. Monster sized, went to school there, supremely skilled, put up numbers. The kind of guy GM’s don’t want to be remembered for passing on.

He's also not much of a defender and I think he'll have a lot of trouble guarding the pick and roll. I think you need to pair a rim protector with Booker or else the Suns will just become another treadmill team. That's why I think Capella would be perfect on the Suns.

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