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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1121 » by Wilfried » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:26 am

:-?
BullyKing wrote:
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You could also look at it that we traded virtually all of our extra assets to advance two games deeper in the playoffs. I'm just still in need to see it to believe it mode with Brand.


Maybe ask some Boston fans what it's like to keep sitting on a pile of assets ...

If you don't want to take any risk you shouldn't be in this business.
We got 2 All-Star level players, still in their prime for what exactly ?


What business? Following a sports team?


The business Elton Brand is in
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1122 » by BullyKing » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:31 am

Wilfried wrote::-?
BullyKing wrote:
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Maybe ask some Boston fans what it's like to keep sitting on a pile of assets ...

If you don't want to take any risk you shouldn't be in this business.
We got 2 All-Star level players, still in their prime for what exactly ?


What business? Following a sports team?


The business Elton Brand is in


And I'm saying I don't particularly care for some of the risks he decided to take.
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the plan is to get as good as quickly as possible....I fully believe we could have been a borderline playoff team last year by adding young veterans....using or draft picks and cap space.....can I specifically tell you who? no.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1123 » by Sixerscan » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:35 am

BullyKing wrote:
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I just hate that each rumor (yes, just rumors) seems to be getting worse and worse. But I just don't have a lot of faith in Brand and he/ownership just seem hell bent on pushing in chip after chip without any clear direction.

Woj told today that Sixers plan is to keep all of the FAs, how is that bad news or rumors?


I heard the thing about Butler but didn't hear anything about Harris/Redick. Was this on his podcast or a Sportscenter piece?


He said it on their mock draft thing on espn last night. Calm down lol. Every team has rumors about how their stars are staying/leaving. The rumors about the Sixers stars leaving seem a lot more flimsy than other teams.

Sixers are in a good spot.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1124 » by mjkvol » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:36 am

BullyKing wrote:
Wilfried wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
I just hate that each rumor (yes, just rumors) seems to be getting worse and worse. But I just don't have a lot of faith in Brand and he/ownership just seem hell bent on pushing in chip after chip without any clear direction.


We were a good team before Brand pushed the button.

Now we are probably 1 of the 4 best teams in the NBA.

To me that's a clear and decent direction


You could also look at it that we traded virtually all of our extra assets to advance two games deeper in the playoffs. I'm just still in need to see it to believe it mode with Brand.


That's not the case if we run it back. Brand clearly made those moves with the idea of keeping this group together for 4-5 years beyond last season, so there's no way to gauge the success or failure of those trades until or unless Butler and Harris are resigned and we see how the next few seasons play out.

Now if we lose one or both guys now, especially Butler? Then you can bring out the pitchforks.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1125 » by BullyKing » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:43 am

Sixerscan wrote:
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sixers4real wrote:Woj told today that Sixers plan is to keep all of the FAs, how is that bad news or rumors?


I heard the thing about Butler but didn't hear anything about Harris/Redick. Was this on his podcast or a Sportscenter piece?


He said it on their mock draft thing on espn last night. Calm down lol. Every team has rumors about how their stars are staying/leaving. The rumors about the Sixers stars leaving seem a lot more flimsy than other teams.

Sixers are in a good spot.


In my defense, I was posting at 4am after waking up in the middle of the night after drinking way too much earlier in the evening.
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the plan is to get as good as quickly as possible....I fully believe we could have been a borderline playoff team last year by adding young veterans....using or draft picks and cap space.....can I specifically tell you who? no.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1126 » by Negrodamus » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:45 am

Revived wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:I’m getting a sneaking suspicion that Butler wants to go to the Rockets and we might have to figure out a S&T situation.

Well it’s too bad that the Rockets have no cap space unless Jimmy wants to play for the vet min.


No, it would likely be a sign and trade, as stated in my initial post.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1127 » by Sixerscan » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:49 am

BullyKing wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
I heard the thing about Butler but didn't hear anything about Harris/Redick. Was this on his podcast or a Sportscenter piece?


He said it on their mock draft thing on espn last night. Calm down lol. Every team has rumors about how their stars are staying/leaving. The rumors about the Sixers stars leaving seem a lot more flimsy than other teams.

Sixers are in a good spot.


In my defense, I was posting at 4am after waking up in the middle of the night after drinking way too much earlier in the evening.


Hah well rest up tonight buddy. Got a late night with the draft tomorrow.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1128 » by cool93 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:52 am

BullyKing wrote:
Wilfried wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
I just hate that each rumor (yes, just rumors) seems to be getting worse and worse. But I just don't have a lot of faith in Brand and he/ownership just seem hell bent on pushing in chip after chip without any clear direction.


We were a good team before Brand pushed the button.

Now we are probably 1 of the 4 best teams in the NBA.

To me that's a clear and decent direction


You could also look at it that we traded virtually all of our extra assets to advance two games deeper in the playoffs. I'm just still in need to see it to believe it mode with Brand.


There is a huge difference between getting spanked by some scrubs like Rozier & one-legged Brown and losing on the last second of 7 game series against elite Raps team.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1129 » by PhillyFan11 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:21 pm

I know there’s more to his game than shows up on the stat sheet...but all this talk of Horford for 3/4 years @ 20M or over is just nuts to me. I also thought it was absolutely crazy for Horford to turn down $30M next season, so perhaps there actually is a market for him. Hopefully not the Sixers tho...
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1130 » by MambaJuice » Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:26 pm

If Horford was 30/31 I'd do it. Then again, the Celtics wouldn't have let him go. I'm only paying one player in his 30s that kind of money and his name is Jimmy Butler.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1131 » by Wilfried » Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:32 pm

BullyKing wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
I heard the thing about Butler but didn't hear anything about Harris/Redick. Was this on his podcast or a Sportscenter piece?


He said it on their mock draft thing on espn last night. Calm down lol. Every team has rumors about how their stars are staying/leaving. The rumors about the Sixers stars leaving seem a lot more flimsy than other teams.

Sixers are in a good spot.


In my defense, I was posting at 4am after waking up in the middle of the night after drinking way too much earlier in the evening.


We noticed
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1132 » by Wilfried » Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:35 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:I know there’s more to his game than shows up on the stat sheet...but all this talk of Horford for 3/4 years @ 20M or over is just nuts to me. I also thought it was absolutely crazy for Horford to turn down $30M next season, so perhaps there actually is a market for him. Hopefully not the Sixers tho...


Maybe he didn't want to waste 1 of his final decent years in a rebuilding squad.

And long term is much more interesting for security reasons (what if he suffers an injury like Durant or Klay)

I understand his decision
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1133 » by smittybanton » Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:53 pm

al horford is going to the clippers. if not the clippers, the nets will offer him more than the sixers would or could. and the kings will probably offer him more than both, although i don't predict he'll take it.

and chris paul is getting traded to the knicks for dennis smith jr after the knicks strike out in free agency. they'll get chris paul and jabari parker to sell tickets to msg.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1134 » by smittybanton » Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:57 pm

and if for some strange reason we agree to a s&t with houston, i would prefer eric gordon, danuel house and clint capela.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1135 » by hookshot199 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:03 pm

BullyKing wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
I heard the thing about Butler but didn't hear anything about Harris/Redick. Was this on his podcast or a Sportscenter piece?


He said it on their mock draft thing on espn last night. Calm down lol. Every team has rumors about how their stars are staying/leaving. The rumors about the Sixers stars leaving seem a lot more flimsy than other teams.

Sixers are in a good spot.


In my defense, I was posting at 4am after waking up in the middle of the night after drinking way too much earlier in the evening.


So it's beginning to look as if the Lakers will be able to unload Wagner, Bonga and Jones. And I wouldn't be shocked
if Davis waives his $4 mil trade kicker, creating a possibility to bring in a third max player. That's potentially bad if
Butler is on the Laker's "wish" list. On the other hand, we can still offer him a fifth year; the Laker's can't. The same
for Tobias. As for JJ, he really has value coming off the bench. I think there's a good chance we lose him. That may
or may not be bad. I don't know who's out there who could fill his instant-offense role. Maybe it will be Cam Johnson.

Hopefully, we'll do better at developing a bench during the season. I think we drafted well last June. If we have a
repeat performance on Thursday, then hopefully Hodges will replicate what the Spurs player development system.
And hopefully our new medical team will give us a better chance for Embiid to be healthy coming into the playoffs.

I hope that Brand and Harris have locks on Butler and Tobias. We'll find out, I guess.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1136 » by youngcrev » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:08 pm

Horford and Kawhi to the Clippers would be awesome for us. Send those Sixers killers out West, hurt our rivals, and take one Beverley suitor off the market
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1137 » by smittybanton » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:23 pm

hookshot199 wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
He said it on their mock draft thing on espn last night. Calm down lol. Every team has rumors about how their stars are staying/leaving. The rumors about the Sixers stars leaving seem a lot more flimsy than other teams.

Sixers are in a good spot.


In my defense, I was posting at 4am after waking up in the middle of the night after drinking way too much earlier in the evening.


So it's beginning to look as if the Lakers will be able to unload Wagner, Bonga and Jones. And I wouldn't be shocked
if Davis waives his $4 mil trade kicker, creating a possibility to bring in a third max player. That's potentially bad if
Butler is on the Laker's "wish" list. On the other hand, we can still offer him a fifth year; the Laker's can't. The same
for Tobias. As for JJ, he really has value coming off the bench. I think there's a good chance we lose him. That may
or may not be bad. I don't know who's out there who could fill his instant-offense role. Maybe it will be Cam Johnson.

Hopefully, we'll do better at developing a bench during the season. I think we drafted well last June. If we have a
repeat performance on Thursday, then hopefully Hodges will replicate what the Spurs player development system.
And hopefully our new medical team will give us a better chance for Embiid to be healthy coming into the playoffs.

I hope that Brand and Harris have locks on Butler and Tobias. We'll find out, I guess.



i suspect that third max spot is reserved for kyrie irving. would be too much to ask for leonard and horford to go to the clippers, kyrie to diss the nets for the lakers, and for the nets and mavericks and the knicks to spend their loot on poaching the bucks free agents. my brother went to a bucks game in milwaukee last december and said the place was empty. they are less able to afford running it back than we are. fingers crossed.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1138 » by MambaJuice » Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:51 pm

Kawhi and Horford going to the Clips, Kyrie signing with the Lakers and Milwaukee losing key pieces would be a dream scenario. Let everyone slug it out in the West and we only have to deal with the Pacers and Bucks.
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1139 » by GoCeltics123 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:15 pm

FYI not sure if you saw this but a Lakers insider on reddit, who's apparently considered credible by their mods, said the 4 year/$100+ offer for Al Horford is from Philly

https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/c2a06p/al_horford_is_likely_going_to_the_76ers/
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Re: Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1140 » by hookshot199 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:23 pm

smittybanton wrote:
hookshot199 wrote:
BullyKing wrote:
In my defense, I was posting at 4am after waking up in the middle of the night after drinking way too much earlier in the evening.


So it's beginning to look as if the Lakers will be able to unload Wagner, Bonga and Jones. And I wouldn't be shocked
if Davis waives his $4 mil trade kicker, creating a possibility to bring in a third max player. That's potentially bad if
Butler is on the Laker's "wish" list. On the other hand, we can still offer him a fifth year; the Laker's can't. The same
for Tobias. As for JJ, he really has value coming off the bench. I think there's a good chance we lose him. That may
or may not be bad. I don't know who's out there who could fill his instant-offense role. Maybe it will be Cam Johnson.

Hopefully, we'll do better at developing a bench during the season. I think we drafted well last June. If we have a
repeat performance on Thursday, then hopefully Hodges will replicate what the Spurs player development system.
And hopefully our new medical team will give us a better chance for Embiid to be healthy coming into the playoffs.

I hope that Brand and Harris have locks on Butler and Tobias. We'll find out, I guess.



i suspect that third max spot is reserved for kyrie irving. would be too much to ask for leonard and horford to go to the clippers, kyrie to diss the nets for the lakers, and for the nets and mavericks and the knicks to spend their loot on poaching the bucks free agents. my brother went to a bucks game in milwaukee last december and said the place was empty. they are less able to afford running it back than we are. fingers crossed.


Anything can happen, but of all the available max players, Irving would be the one I would wish upon
the Lakers. He doesn't play D. Their bench is going to be razer thin. And we'll see if his estrangement
from LeBron works. All this 1+1 talk is malarkey for a guy who had/has pins in his knee.

I'm not sure how successful a team can be with seven minimum contract players and two starters who
don't play D.

I hope we don't get blindsided. I do believe we'll have to pay both Butler and Tobias more than we had
hoped. But that's the nature of things.

Let's hope we draft another Shamet, perhaps two, with our three picks. And I still like both Scott and
Ennis. They'll probably be out of our price range.

Re Milwaukee: Giannis has to improve his shooting. He's got four more years under his belt than Simmons.
And Bledsoe is trick or treat. If they lose part of their bench, especially Lopez, they won't be as good.

I wouldn't be averse to flipping for Ilyasova for Jonathan Simmons. Would love to pick up Connaughton
since he's redundant with Brogdon almost surely coming back.

But until everybody's signed, it's pins and needles.

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