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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1121 » by 76ciology » Tue Jun 14, 2022 8:08 am

Mik317 wrote:young players make up for a lot of the pain that is watching this team sometimes lol.

Logic be damned.

whoever we do trade the pick for better be athletic at least. I'm seeing Kendrich Williams and **** and already malding over it. I'd take a flyer and use Danny's contract, Thybulle, Tobias, and the MLE for fix the roster. Yeah whoever we take probably won't help this year...but idk if any body we trade it for does that either...whereas said pick COULD help us down the road...even if only as a viable trade piece. Team keeps going all in, and then flaming out anyway and have **** all to fix it.

The same logic of "oh he won't help us right now" is what almost got Maxey traded last year. Imagine if we didn't have Maxey this year.....shiiiet.

BUT thats just my own bias and over optimism of draft picks talking to an extent. I will always believe in the mystery box over the known product..so I get the other side of it. I am just not pleased with trading it for another over the hill mediocre athlete


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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1122 » by Negrodamus » Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:31 am

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Kobblehead wrote:Having #23 and using it on another 19 year old is the only thing that will make Harden's looming albatross extension palatable, for me.


That’s not how it works, the goal is championship.

Making it to the finals or winning the chip with an albatross contract makes it palatable


Literally the opposite if you look at the teams playing in the championship right now. Almost every major piece was drafted by the respective team.
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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1123 » by Mik317 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:21 pm

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Mik317 wrote:young players make up for a lot of the pain that is watching this team sometimes lol.

Logic be damned.

whoever we do trade the pick for better be athletic at least. I'm seeing Kendrich Williams and **** and already malding over it. I'd take a flyer and use Danny's contract, Thybulle, Tobias, and the MLE for fix the roster. Yeah whoever we take probably won't help this year...but idk if any body we trade it for does that either...whereas said pick COULD help us down the road...even if only as a viable trade piece. Team keeps going all in, and then flaming out anyway and have **** all to fix it.

The same logic of "oh he won't help us right now" is what almost got Maxey traded last year. Imagine if we didn't have Maxey this year.....shiiiet.

BUT thats just my own bias and over optimism of draft picks talking to an extent. I will always believe in the mystery box over the known product..so I get the other side of it. I am just not pleased with trading it for another over the hill mediocre athlete


We’re trying to win it next year. Not the next year though.


I don't think anybody we get for 23# helps in a major way towards that either tho.

I also think you can do both in terms of building for the future and present.

again tho I get it and more than likely Prospect Mcprospectface ends up as trash especially at pick 23# (IMO the real "win now and later move" would be to move up for a guy w/ less questionmarks and the ability to contribute now as he develops like a Sochan or Branham)...but again thats my draft lover brain talking) so yeah move it for a known body.... I am sure I will change my tune if the guy or guys we get back are actually good...but idk the names bandied about don't excite me much
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Post#1124 » by 76ciology » Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:40 pm

Sauces: Sixers trades Danny Green and 23rd pick to the OKC Thunder for Lu Dort and JaMychal Green

Thunders gets 2 first round picks in the process
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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1125 » by Mik317 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:50 pm

76ciology wrote:Sauces: Sixers trades Danny Green and 23rd pick to the OKC Thunder for Lu Dort and JaMychal Green

Thunders gets 2 first round picks in the process



...i do like Dort and he is "young" ish...and Green is a solid 4 man.

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Post#1126 » by Negrodamus » Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:00 pm

Why not get a 6'3 SF, amirite?
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Post#1127 » by 76ciology » Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:16 pm

Negrodamus wrote:Why not get a 6'3 SF, amirite?


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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1128 » by Mik317 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:30 pm

bored and waiting for a meeting to start so I figured it put my **** draft takes down on virtual paper.

This goes in semi order of how I think most of these guys will be drafted (not how I'd draft)

Jabari seems neat. The swing skill is self creation and that is tough to tell from the little i've seen of him. Feels Marvin Williams-ish too (get ready for a lot of bad comps...call me Mr. NBADraft.net). Very safe pick as I unless he is a **** I don't think he will be a bad player..but as a top 3 guy eeeeeh.

Chet scares me. He looked like hot ass every Gonzaga game I did watch this year. However, Nerlens Noel with a jumper is pretty cool. But I also seen him get crossed into the dead zone so I wonder if he can guard in space. Kinda guy who will get your ass fired for taking him or passing on him..and I am glad we aren't in the position to make that choice lol.

Paolo is a hooper but also seems Tobias-like more than Melo-like. Its hard to tell about defense in college as the best players can get away w/o trying for the most part or be hidden by zone. Cool ass name tho.

Ivey went out sad but a guy with his size and burst is always intriguing. Purdue had the woat spacing too. But that St. Peters flame out is not a great look. The Morant and even Wade comps feel bad but low end is like a Kris Dunn maybe?

Keegan, which is not a cool name, is a boring ass prospect that ironically would be perfect for us lol. Does a lot of good things but nothing great. Liked him more as a mid 1st than the lottery pick he will be. I feel like in the lottery you gotta swing for the fences. Very stiff hips and that worries me. There are a ton of dudes like him in the league. All usefull but none special IMO. Morris Twins. Harrison Barnes. Tobias again. He looks bigger than he is listed and thats neat.

Sharpe. Human NFT lol. He has a lot of the things you want out of a modern day wing. But I think his first step is ass and his handle is HS handle...so I don't think i'd be the one pulling the trigger in the lottery either.

Davis. I liked him until I saw the 3pt %. Big 10 guards who live off of tough middys ala Evan Turner is no bueno. Solid on ball defender which means he might be able to be a damn good starter despite that tho.

Mathurin, one of my favorite prospects in the draft. He is athletic. Can shoot. Is a dog. Hell yeah. I don't think he is a star but again unless he is a ****, don't see how he doesn't contribute on this level.

AJ Griffin. He shoots weird and has injury concerns...so he would be off my Sixers Board for his own sake. You just got to wonder if he can get any of the pre injury pop back. Spot up guys are still very useful tho. Like Murray I liked him more as a mid first guy than where he might end up.

Daniels. No aussies ever again. But no seriously they have a factory of these dudes at this point lol. Feels like Australian Lonzo Ball with less passing imo.

Durren and Williams. Solid 10 year vets...but nothing more..I think only the Hornets should take them lottery.

Branham. Kobble's guy. Feels like a Middleton type of player or Caris Levert. Very impressive in most of the OSU games I caught. Shot creating wings is the wave and he can create his own shot and also spot up. Defense and seeing if he can do it against NBA athletes is the swing tho.

Sochan and Eason. This years...could be Kawhii doe guy. I don't think they reach that by no means. Sochan's Ben Simmons comps of course scare the **** out of me. Eason might be a dick head so yeah... Would be solid fits for us.

Jalen Williams; I was getting hype seeing his tape until I got to the negatives. His first step is ass. Classic workout warrior type? Video i watched gave him a Shake Milton comp lol. Yeah off my board because of that lol.

Liddell. Feels like a guy people like the idea of rather than the reality. yeah he can shoot, pass and block shots. PJ Tucker w/ hops yo. PJ Tucker was playing in west de blip before making it...I feel like the casual Sixers fan target guy never pans out (and we also never take them lol).

TyTy. Always bet on a Kentucky guard figuring it out....just ignore the ones who didn't but still. I can't really grasp him because I spent most Kentucky games hating Wheeler to really pay attention.

Braun and Obagi; Kansas wings success rate is something else. Both guys are fine. Obagi will be taken too early but will be fine. If he falls to our spot, he's one of those guys I think could crack the rotation but neither is exciting.

Moore. Feels like my target for 23 IMO. Checks alot of boxes and might have some hidden upside as Coach K hasn't coached in a decade now lol..Duke Wings also might be the new Kentucky Guard. I do like how he stuck it out when he could have transferred.

Terry. Like the idea not the actual player.
Wesley. Very similar to Davis IMO.
Beuchamp. Meh
McGowens. Another Kobble guy. Team was ass tho...so its hard to tell and after Ben and Fultz...I put slightly more into that than I had in the past.

Chandler. Like the player doesn't make sense for us...will go to someplace like Miami and be a star lol. Feel the same about Hardy

Christie. Feels like a Springer esque upside swing that I'd take....but again don't think we have room for that either. He's a guy I'd buy a second for if he dropped tho. Caleb Houstan too.

Everyone else is mid.

Yeah my feelings overall is that this draft has a lot of solid prospects..but i don't see any stars unless the top 4 truly hit and even then thats more of a early career hype train than true stardom IMO. BUT I think a lot of these dudes will have long careers even if only as role players as they all do useful **** that leads to that. Which is why I am pre-emptively salty we will trade the pick as I think we can find some solid bench depth if nothing else.
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Post#1129 » by Negrodamus » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:03 pm

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Mik317 wrote:bored and waiting for a meeting to start so I figured it put my **** draft takes down on virtual paper.

This goes in semi order of how I think most of these guys will be drafted (not how I'd draft)

Jabari seems neat. The swing skill is self creation and that is tough to tell from the little i've seen of him. Feels Marvin Williams-ish too (get ready for a lot of bad comps...call me Mr. NBADraft.net). Very safe pick as I unless he is a **** I don't think he will be a bad player..but as a top 3 guy eeeeeh.

Chet scares me. He looked like hot ass every Gonzaga game I did watch this year. However, Nerlens Noel with a jumper is pretty cool. But I also seen him get crossed into the dead zone so I wonder if he can guard in space. Kinda guy who will get your ass fired for taking him or passing on him..and I am glad we aren't in the position to make that choice lol.

Paolo is a hooper but also seems Tobias-like more than Melo-like. Its hard to tell about defense in college as the best players can get away w/o trying for the most part or be hidden by zone. Cool ass name tho.

Ivey went out sad but a guy with his size and burst is always intriguing. Purdue had the woat spacing too. But that St. Peters flame out is not a great look. The Morant and even Wade comps feel bad but low end is like a Kris Dunn maybe?

Keegan, which is not a cool name, is a boring ass prospect that ironically would be perfect for us lol. Does a lot of good things but nothing great. Liked him more as a mid 1st than the lottery pick he will be. I feel like in the lottery you gotta swing for the fences. Very stiff hips and that worries me. There are a ton of dudes like him in the league. All usefull but none special IMO. Morris Twins. Harrison Barnes. Tobias again. He looks bigger than he is listed and thats neat.

Sharpe. Human NFT lol. He has a lot of the things you want out of a modern day wing. But I think his first step is ass and his handle is HS handle...so I don't think i'd be the one pulling the trigger in the lottery either.

Davis. I liked him until I saw the 3pt %. Big 10 guards who live off of tough middys ala Evan Turner is no bueno. Solid on ball defender which means he might be able to be a damn good starter despite that tho.

Mathurin, one of my favorite prospects in the draft. He is athletic. Can shoot. Is a dog. Hell yeah. I don't think he is a star but again unless he is a ****, don't see how he doesn't contribute on this level.

AJ Griffin. He shoots weird and has injury concerns...so he would be off my Sixers Board for his own sake. You just got to wonder if he can get any of the pre injury pop back. Spot up guys are still very useful tho. Like Murray I liked him more as a mid first guy than where he might end up.

Daniels. No aussies ever again. But no seriously they have a factory of these dudes at this point lol. Feels like Australian Lonzo Ball with less passing imo.

Durren and Williams. Solid 10 year vets...but nothing more..I think only the Hornets should take them lottery.

Branham. Kobble's guy. Feels like a Middleton type of player or Caris Levert. Very impressive in most of the OSU games I caught. Shot creating wings is the wave and he can create his own shot and also spot up. Defense and seeing if he can do it against NBA athletes is the swing tho.

Sochan and Eason. This years...could be Kawhii doe guy. I don't think they reach that by no means. Sochan's Ben Simmons comps of course scare the **** out of me. Eason might be a dick head so yeah... Would be solid fits for us.

Jalen Williams; I was getting hype seeing his tape until I got to the negatives. His first step is ass. Classic workout warrior type? Video i watched gave him a Shake Milton comp lol. Yeah off my board because of that lol.

Liddell. Feels like a guy people like the idea of rather than the reality. yeah he can shoot, pass and block shots. PJ Tucker w/ hops yo. PJ Tucker was playing in west de blip before making it...I feel like the casual Sixers fan target guy never pans out (and we also never take them lol).

TyTy. Always bet on a Kentucky guard figuring it out....just ignore the ones who didn't but still. I can't really grasp him because I spent most Kentucky games hating Wheeler to really pay attention.

Braun and Obagi; Kansas wings success rate is something else. Both guys are fine. Obagi will be taken too early but will be fine. If he falls to our spot, he's one of those guys I think could crack the rotation but neither is exciting.

Moore. Feels like my target for 23 IMO. Checks alot of boxes and might have some hidden upside as Coach K hasn't coached in a decade now lol..Duke Wings also might be the new Kentucky Guard. I do like how he stuck it out when he could have transferred.

Terry. Like the idea not the actual player.
Wesley. Very similar to Davis IMO.
Beuchamp. Meh
McGowens. Another Kobble guy. Team was ass tho...so its hard to tell and after Ben and Fultz...I put slightly more into that than I had in the past.

Chandler. Like the player doesn't make sense for us...will go to someplace like Miami and be a star lol. Feel the same about Hardy

Christie. Feels like a Springer esque upside swing that I'd take....but again don't think we have room for that either. He's a guy I'd buy a second for if he dropped tho. Caleb Houstan too.

Everyone else is mid.

Yeah my feelings overall is that this draft has a lot of solid prospects..but i don't see any stars unless the top 4 truly hit and even then thats more of a early career hype train than true stardom IMO. BUT I think a lot of these dudes will have long careers even if only as role players as they all do useful **** that leads to that. Which is why I am pre-emptively salty we will trade the pick as I think we can find some solid bench depth if nothing else.


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Post#1130 » by ankle420breaker » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:12 pm

76ciology wrote:Sauces: Sixers trades Danny Green and 23rd pick to the OKC Thunder for Lu Dort and JaMychal Green

Thunders gets 2 first round picks in the process
I do like this. Dort is only 23 and would slide into the starting SF nicely. Not huge on JGreen, but he at least provides some added depth.

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Post#1131 » by Mik317 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:35 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Spoiler:
Mik317 wrote:bored and waiting for a meeting to start so I figured it put my **** draft takes down on virtual paper.

This goes in semi order of how I think most of these guys will be drafted (not how I'd draft)

Jabari seems neat. The swing skill is self creation and that is tough to tell from the little i've seen of him. Feels Marvin Williams-ish too (get ready for a lot of bad comps...call me Mr. NBADraft.net). Very safe pick as I unless he is a **** I don't think he will be a bad player..but as a top 3 guy eeeeeh.

Chet scares me. He looked like hot ass every Gonzaga game I did watch this year. However, Nerlens Noel with a jumper is pretty cool. But I also seen him get crossed into the dead zone so I wonder if he can guard in space. Kinda guy who will get your ass fired for taking him or passing on him..and I am glad we aren't in the position to make that choice lol.

Paolo is a hooper but also seems Tobias-like more than Melo-like. Its hard to tell about defense in college as the best players can get away w/o trying for the most part or be hidden by zone. Cool ass name tho.

Ivey went out sad but a guy with his size and burst is always intriguing. Purdue had the woat spacing too. But that St. Peters flame out is not a great look. The Morant and even Wade comps feel bad but low end is like a Kris Dunn maybe?

Keegan, which is not a cool name, is a boring ass prospect that ironically would be perfect for us lol. Does a lot of good things but nothing great. Liked him more as a mid 1st than the lottery pick he will be. I feel like in the lottery you gotta swing for the fences. Very stiff hips and that worries me. There are a ton of dudes like him in the league. All usefull but none special IMO. Morris Twins. Harrison Barnes. Tobias again. He looks bigger than he is listed and thats neat.

Sharpe. Human NFT lol. He has a lot of the things you want out of a modern day wing. But I think his first step is ass and his handle is HS handle...so I don't think i'd be the one pulling the trigger in the lottery either.

Davis. I liked him until I saw the 3pt %. Big 10 guards who live off of tough middys ala Evan Turner is no bueno. Solid on ball defender which means he might be able to be a damn good starter despite that tho.

Mathurin, one of my favorite prospects in the draft. He is athletic. Can shoot. Is a dog. Hell yeah. I don't think he is a star but again unless he is a ****, don't see how he doesn't contribute on this level.

AJ Griffin. He shoots weird and has injury concerns...so he would be off my Sixers Board for his own sake. You just got to wonder if he can get any of the pre injury pop back. Spot up guys are still very useful tho. Like Murray I liked him more as a mid first guy than where he might end up.

Daniels. No aussies ever again. But no seriously they have a factory of these dudes at this point lol. Feels like Australian Lonzo Ball with less passing imo.

Durren and Williams. Solid 10 year vets...but nothing more..I think only the Hornets should take them lottery.

Branham. Kobble's guy. Feels like a Middleton type of player or Caris Levert. Very impressive in most of the OSU games I caught. Shot creating wings is the wave and he can create his own shot and also spot up. Defense and seeing if he can do it against NBA athletes is the swing tho.

Sochan and Eason. This years...could be Kawhii doe guy. I don't think they reach that by no means. Sochan's Ben Simmons comps of course scare the **** out of me. Eason might be a dick head so yeah... Would be solid fits for us.

Jalen Williams; I was getting hype seeing his tape until I got to the negatives. His first step is ass. Classic workout warrior type? Video i watched gave him a Shake Milton comp lol. Yeah off my board because of that lol.

Liddell. Feels like a guy people like the idea of rather than the reality. yeah he can shoot, pass and block shots. PJ Tucker w/ hops yo. PJ Tucker was playing in west de blip before making it...I feel like the casual Sixers fan target guy never pans out (and we also never take them lol).

TyTy. Always bet on a Kentucky guard figuring it out....just ignore the ones who didn't but still. I can't really grasp him because I spent most Kentucky games hating Wheeler to really pay attention.

Braun and Obagi; Kansas wings success rate is something else. Both guys are fine. Obagi will be taken too early but will be fine. If he falls to our spot, he's one of those guys I think could crack the rotation but neither is exciting.

Moore. Feels like my target for 23 IMO. Checks alot of boxes and might have some hidden upside as Coach K hasn't coached in a decade now lol..Duke Wings also might be the new Kentucky Guard. I do like how he stuck it out when he could have transferred.

Terry. Like the idea not the actual player.
Wesley. Very similar to Davis IMO.
Beuchamp. Meh
McGowens. Another Kobble guy. Team was ass tho...so its hard to tell and after Ben and Fultz...I put slightly more into that than I had in the past.

Chandler. Like the player doesn't make sense for us...will go to someplace like Miami and be a star lol. Feel the same about Hardy

Christie. Feels like a Springer esque upside swing that I'd take....but again don't think we have room for that either. He's a guy I'd buy a second for if he dropped tho. Caleb Houstan too.

Everyone else is mid.

Yeah my feelings overall is that this draft has a lot of solid prospects..but i don't see any stars unless the top 4 truly hit and even then thats more of a early career hype train than true stardom IMO. BUT I think a lot of these dudes will have long careers even if only as role players as they all do useful **** that leads to that. Which is why I am pre-emptively salty we will trade the pick as I think we can find some solid bench depth if nothing else.


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He seems neat. Probably in the same camp as Hardy/Chandler as nice prospects but we don't really have room for them (although I think having bucket getters off the bench would help those lineups...Doc isn't going to go to a 19-21 year old for that).

His tape does bring up a question of mine. When is too much tough shot making actually a bad thing? I remember being one of the dickheads down on Tatum out of duke because I was still shook from Evan Turner and wondered if his reliance on making tough shots wouldn't translate (I also hated Duke so was biased as **** lol). Tatum is a better athlete and lowkey huge so it doesn't really matter (he also expanded his range a lot) but even in the finals, he has been feast or famine outside of 3pters. I watched Rollins tape and saw him hit a lot of tough looks for example and this is against mid major competition and went while yeah he hit a lot of them its only going to get tougher. I mean **** we have that issue with Harden basically relying on hitting tough step backs because he hates catch and shoot and can't get seperation anymore....when he's on it doesn't matter...when he's not...then what?

BUT that skill is the golden goose on the nba level because come playoff time needing to make something out of nothing becomes more constant.
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Re: 2021-2022 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#1132 » by Negrodamus » Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:43 pm

Mik317 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Spoiler:
Mik317 wrote:bored and waiting for a meeting to start so I figured it put my **** draft takes down on virtual paper.

This goes in semi order of how I think most of these guys will be drafted (not how I'd draft)

Jabari seems neat. The swing skill is self creation and that is tough to tell from the little i've seen of him. Feels Marvin Williams-ish too (get ready for a lot of bad comps...call me Mr. NBADraft.net). Very safe pick as I unless he is a **** I don't think he will be a bad player..but as a top 3 guy eeeeeh.

Chet scares me. He looked like hot ass every Gonzaga game I did watch this year. However, Nerlens Noel with a jumper is pretty cool. But I also seen him get crossed into the dead zone so I wonder if he can guard in space. Kinda guy who will get your ass fired for taking him or passing on him..and I am glad we aren't in the position to make that choice lol.

Paolo is a hooper but also seems Tobias-like more than Melo-like. Its hard to tell about defense in college as the best players can get away w/o trying for the most part or be hidden by zone. Cool ass name tho.

Ivey went out sad but a guy with his size and burst is always intriguing. Purdue had the woat spacing too. But that St. Peters flame out is not a great look. The Morant and even Wade comps feel bad but low end is like a Kris Dunn maybe?

Keegan, which is not a cool name, is a boring ass prospect that ironically would be perfect for us lol. Does a lot of good things but nothing great. Liked him more as a mid 1st than the lottery pick he will be. I feel like in the lottery you gotta swing for the fences. Very stiff hips and that worries me. There are a ton of dudes like him in the league. All usefull but none special IMO. Morris Twins. Harrison Barnes. Tobias again. He looks bigger than he is listed and thats neat.

Sharpe. Human NFT lol. He has a lot of the things you want out of a modern day wing. But I think his first step is ass and his handle is HS handle...so I don't think i'd be the one pulling the trigger in the lottery either.

Davis. I liked him until I saw the 3pt %. Big 10 guards who live off of tough middys ala Evan Turner is no bueno. Solid on ball defender which means he might be able to be a damn good starter despite that tho.

Mathurin, one of my favorite prospects in the draft. He is athletic. Can shoot. Is a dog. Hell yeah. I don't think he is a star but again unless he is a ****, don't see how he doesn't contribute on this level.

AJ Griffin. He shoots weird and has injury concerns...so he would be off my Sixers Board for his own sake. You just got to wonder if he can get any of the pre injury pop back. Spot up guys are still very useful tho. Like Murray I liked him more as a mid first guy than where he might end up.

Daniels. No aussies ever again. But no seriously they have a factory of these dudes at this point lol. Feels like Australian Lonzo Ball with less passing imo.

Durren and Williams. Solid 10 year vets...but nothing more..I think only the Hornets should take them lottery.

Branham. Kobble's guy. Feels like a Middleton type of player or Caris Levert. Very impressive in most of the OSU games I caught. Shot creating wings is the wave and he can create his own shot and also spot up. Defense and seeing if he can do it against NBA athletes is the swing tho.

Sochan and Eason. This years...could be Kawhii doe guy. I don't think they reach that by no means. Sochan's Ben Simmons comps of course scare the **** out of me. Eason might be a dick head so yeah... Would be solid fits for us.

Jalen Williams; I was getting hype seeing his tape until I got to the negatives. His first step is ass. Classic workout warrior type? Video i watched gave him a Shake Milton comp lol. Yeah off my board because of that lol.

Liddell. Feels like a guy people like the idea of rather than the reality. yeah he can shoot, pass and block shots. PJ Tucker w/ hops yo. PJ Tucker was playing in west de blip before making it...I feel like the casual Sixers fan target guy never pans out (and we also never take them lol).

TyTy. Always bet on a Kentucky guard figuring it out....just ignore the ones who didn't but still. I can't really grasp him because I spent most Kentucky games hating Wheeler to really pay attention.

Braun and Obagi; Kansas wings success rate is something else. Both guys are fine. Obagi will be taken too early but will be fine. If he falls to our spot, he's one of those guys I think could crack the rotation but neither is exciting.

Moore. Feels like my target for 23 IMO. Checks alot of boxes and might have some hidden upside as Coach K hasn't coached in a decade now lol..Duke Wings also might be the new Kentucky Guard. I do like how he stuck it out when he could have transferred.

Terry. Like the idea not the actual player.
Wesley. Very similar to Davis IMO.
Beuchamp. Meh
McGowens. Another Kobble guy. Team was ass tho...so its hard to tell and after Ben and Fultz...I put slightly more into that than I had in the past.

Chandler. Like the player doesn't make sense for us...will go to someplace like Miami and be a star lol. Feel the same about Hardy

Christie. Feels like a Springer esque upside swing that I'd take....but again don't think we have room for that either. He's a guy I'd buy a second for if he dropped tho. Caleb Houstan too.

Everyone else is mid.

Yeah my feelings overall is that this draft has a lot of solid prospects..but i don't see any stars unless the top 4 truly hit and even then thats more of a early career hype train than true stardom IMO. BUT I think a lot of these dudes will have long careers even if only as role players as they all do useful **** that leads to that. Which is why I am pre-emptively salty we will trade the pick as I think we can find some solid bench depth if nothing else.


I demand a Ryan Rollins review.


He seems neat. Probably in the same camp as Hardy/Chandler as nice prospects but we don't really have room for them (although I think having bucket getters off the bench would help those lineups...Doc isn't going to go to a 19-21 year old for that).

His tape does bring up a question of mine. When is too much tough shot making actually a bad thing? I remember being one of the dickheads down on Tatum out of duke because I was still shook from Evan Turner and wondered if his reliance on making tough shots wouldn't translate (I also hated Duke so was biased as **** lol). Tatum is a better athlete and lowkey huge so it doesn't really matter (he also expanded his range a lot) but even in the finals, he has been feast or famine outside of 3pters. I watched Rollins tape and saw him hit a lot of tough looks for example and this is against mid major competition and went while yeah he hit a lot of them its only going to get tougher. I mean **** we have that issue with Harden basically relying on hitting tough step backs because he hates catch and shoot and can't get seperation anymore....when he's on it doesn't matter...when he's not...then what?

BUT that skill is the golden goose on the nba level because come playoff time needing to make something out of nothing becomes more constant.


I think showing the ability to do so is a positive since he won't be asked to be that type of shot maker in the immediate future. Shows an upside of stardom. His team was pretty bad, so any offense being produced was going to go through him.

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Post#1133 » by Jailblazers7 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 4:52 pm

Appreciate you staying on brand by being kinda negative about every prospect Mik. You being only positive about Moore does have me worried that we’ve created a groupthink vortex on this board about him lol.
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Post#1134 » by Mik317 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:00 pm

Jailblazers7 wrote:Appreciate you staying on brand by being kinda negative about every prospect Mik. You being only positive about Moore does have me worried that we’ve created a groupthink vortex on this board about him lol.


I think a lot of my negativity is from the fact that we will probably trade the pick Slowy FlabJohnson the 6'7 forward who shoots 35% from 3....so I am coping premptively.

But also I think stardom is not in the card for most guys and the ones who can "potentially" make it has a lot to overcome. And for most of these dudes being a role player isn't what they want....that takes a lot of time for it to set in for some.

I think this is a role player heavy draft...and thats not sexy and again it takes a specific mindset to be a role player..and time. So a lot of the dudes I like as role players probably will flame out before they get there.
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Post#1135 » by FireMorey » Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:28 pm

Brushing up on my draft homework, which is probably a waste of time because the Sixers will either trade the pick or none of these guys will be there, but I like the OSU boys and Agbaji. If one of them fell to 23, it would be great news for the Sixers. Doubt it happens though.
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Post#1136 » by Negrodamus » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:38 pm

Outside of who we know they interviewed at the combine — a list that includes MarJon Beauchamp of the G-League Ignite, Baylor's Kendall Brown, and Nebraska's Bryce McGowens —


From the article Stormi posted in the Jaden Springer thread. Kendall Brown was a strong finisher at the rim, top 10 recruit in his class, hits decent marks in the advanced analytics section. I definitely felt like he fits the mold of what Morey wants from a prospect in the SF/PF position, but felt he was out of reach. If he falls at all, I fully expect us to take him.
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Post#1137 » by stormi » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:55 pm

Shump was a ~25%+ assist guy all 3 years? Pretty crazy. 5.0% steal rate his third year is just wild too.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/iman-shumpert-1.html
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Post#1138 » by Iverson Armband » Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:57 pm

Just need one of Blake Wesley, Jaden Hardy or Branham to fall to us. I like our chances.
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Post#1139 » by Negrodamus » Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:48 pm



He definitely has strong LaVine vibes if LaVine were allowed to do whatever he wanted on a bad team in college. He had the greenest light of anyone in this draft, lol. Desperately needs to gain weight and add some density to his frame because he gets pushed around from a strong gust of wind.
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Post#1140 » by Negrodamus » Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:06 pm



I can't believe he's mocked to be a late second rounder. He feels like a shoo-in to be a role player in the league. The shot, while funky, is legit. He'll be a volume three point shooter. Can defend well and one of the better passers in the draft. Just a shade under 6'5. Here he is roasting Jalen Williams.

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