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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 7 

Post#1121 » by GoSixersBro » Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:54 pm

Just game log watching but looks like Lillard has put up some better performances the last 3 games. Shooting percentage improving (bad 3P% vs LAC to note) and low turnovers.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 7 

Post#1122 » by vanhalen26 » Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:08 pm

Its unbelievable what is going on with him.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 7 

Post#1123 » by stormi » Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:28 pm

GoSixersBro wrote:Just game log watching but looks like Lillard has put up some better performances the last 3 games. Shooting percentage improving (bad 3P% vs LAC to note) and low turnovers.


Paul George had that little old man in the torture chamber.



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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 7 

Post#1124 » by Murray_17 » Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:29 pm

Tomjas wrote:
lol

Joel got swept without Simmons

You do know that our team really sucks atm?

No surprise as he takes up 25% of the cap

Scoreboard doesn’t lie and moral victories don’t count


Some of the really crazy stuff going on here

Maxey is untouchable in a Dame trade

Korkmaz is only available in a trade for a superstar

Just fkn lol


????

fourth in the east, one loss behind the 1 spot, playing a rotation of 8 guys without our best player and still rank 1 in offensive efficiency.

Look, it's fine if you want to defend Ben, but at least don't do this "i'm objective" charade.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 7 

Post#1125 » by GoSixersBro » Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:36 pm

Murray_17 wrote:
Tomjas wrote:
lol

Joel got swept without Simmons

You do know that our team really sucks atm?

No surprise as he takes up 25% of the cap

Scoreboard doesn’t lie and moral victories don’t count


Some of the really crazy stuff going on here

Maxey is untouchable in a Dame trade

Korkmaz is only available in a trade for a superstar

Just fkn lol


????

fourth in the east, one loss behind the 1 spot, playing a rotation of 8 guys without our best player and still rank 1 in offensive efficiency.

Look, it's fine if you want to defend Ben, but at least don't do this "i'm objective" charade.


Please don't feed the troll.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 7 

Post#1126 » by Murray_17 » Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:41 pm

76ciology wrote:Speaking about Maxey.

I think Maxey can just bomb away and average 20 on around 20 shots a game.

But the team is preventing him to be that for the team and his own sake. They’re trying to train him to be a point guard the guard a coach can insert when the game is getting out of hand. They’re teaching him when to be aggressive and when to just settle things down and get the other guys involved.

Another thing is he’s not THAT good enough right now, so he’s picking his games or his spots to show his stuff.



If the team is preventing him from doing so, they're right. Averaging 20 points on 20 shots is just awful.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 7 

Post#1127 » by Sixerscan » Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:57 pm

Murray_17 wrote:
76ciology wrote:Speaking about Maxey.

I think Maxey can just bomb away and average 20 on around 20 shots a game.

But the team is preventing him to be that for the team and his own sake. They’re trying to train him to be a point guard the guard a coach can insert when the game is getting out of hand. They’re teaching him when to be aggressive and when to just settle things down and get the other guys involved.

Another thing is he’s not THAT good enough right now, so he’s picking his games or his spots to show his stuff.



If the team is preventing him from doing so, they're right. Averaging 20 points on 20 shots is just awful.


We call that "the Willie Green".
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 7 

Post#1128 » by Mr Chim » Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:56 pm

Tomjas wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Tomjas wrote:
lol

Before Simmons turned up, we had won 38 games in 2 years

Rookie Simmons would drag sorry arse teams to the playoffs let alone DPOY version

Do we really need to dredge up Simmons failures or would you like me to point out that Joel has been every bit as bad?

How about we concentrate on the future?


Joel has been bad but Ben has been unplayable.

And its so CLEARLY evident with how worse we are without Biid and how much better we are without Ben.

*im referring relative to the team. Maybe Ben is playable in a different team
*PM us your offers to get this All NBA stud


lol

Joel got swept without Simmons

You do know that our team really sucks atm?

No surprise as he takes up 25% of the cap

Scoreboard doesn’t lie and moral victories don’t count

Some of the really crazy stuff going on here

Maxey is untouchable in a Dame trade

Korkmaz is only available in a trade for a superstar

Just fkn lol


Is he always like this?
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 7 

Post#1129 » by seventy6ers » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:01 pm

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Murray_17 wrote:
76ciology wrote:Speaking about Maxey.

I think Maxey can just bomb away and average 20 on around 20 shots a game.

But the team is preventing him to be that for the team and his own sake. They’re trying to train him to be a point guard the guard a coach can insert when the game is getting out of hand. They’re teaching him when to be aggressive and when to just settle things down and get the other guys involved.

Another thing is he’s not THAT good enough right now, so he’s picking his games or his spots to show his stuff.



If the team is preventing him from doing so, they're right. Averaging 20 points on 20 shots is just awful.


We call that "the Willie Green".



Huh? If someone has a 50% FG, that is actually pretty good. Willie Green never had a %50 FG. I agree though, that as a PG, Maxey will need more assists. The problem is that we are asking Doc Rivers to be the one to teach him.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 7 

Post#1130 » by stormi » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:18 pm

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 7 

Post#1131 » by Damienfan » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:45 pm

Mr Chim wrote:
Tomjas wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Joel has been bad but Ben has been unplayable.

And its so CLEARLY evident with how worse we are without Biid and how much better we are without Ben.

*im referring relative to the team. Maybe Ben is playable in a different team
*PM us your offers to get this All NBA stud


lol

Joel got swept without Simmons

You do know that our team really sucks atm?

No surprise as he takes up 25% of the cap

Scoreboard doesn’t lie and moral victories don’t count

Some of the really crazy stuff going on here

Maxey is untouchable in a Dame trade

Korkmaz is only available in a trade for a superstar

Just fkn lol


Is he always like this?



Yes. He types "our" as if he'll be around once Ben leaves. He won't.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 7 

Post#1132 » by Stanford » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:45 pm

seventy6ers wrote:If someone has a 50% FG, that is actually pretty good.


Sure, if they're shooting a good volume of threes and free throws. Otherwise, eh.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 7 

Post#1133 » by Sixerscan » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:48 pm

seventy6ers wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
Murray_17 wrote:

If the team is preventing him from doing so, they're right. Averaging 20 points on 20 shots is just awful.


We call that "the Willie Green".



Huh? If someone has a 50% FG, that is actually pretty good. Willie Green never had a %50 FG. I agree though, that as a PG, Maxey will need more assists. The problem is that we are asking Doc Rivers to be the one to teach him.


Shooting 50% with zero free throws or threes is not an overall good game. If you have some threes and free throws then you're probably not shooting 50% from the field to get 20 points on 20 shots.

The Willie Green line is something like 8-20 from the field, 1-4 from 3, 3-4 from the line.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 7 

Post#1134 » by kuclas » Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:35 pm

Murray_17 wrote:
76ciology wrote:Speaking about Maxey.

I think Maxey can just bomb away and average 20 on around 20 shots a game.

But the team is preventing him to be that for the team and his own sake. They’re trying to train him to be a point guard the guard a coach can insert when the game is getting out of hand. They’re teaching him when to be aggressive and when to just settle things down and get the other guys involved.

Another thing is he’s not THAT good enough right now, so he’s picking his games or his spots to show his stuff.



If the team is preventing him from doing so, they're right. Averaging 20 points on 20 shots is just awful.


That’s basically what Anthony Edwards on the wolves is averaging. 25 points on 23 shots a night. And wolves fans say he’s untouchable. And his 3 point shooting isn’t great to start the season either. Dude jacking up almost 10 3 point shots a game.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 7 

Post#1135 » by vini_vidi_vici » Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:29 pm

Where is your game thread?

Anyways, guys im blown away, and need an explanation.

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How are you guys so elite without Ben?? In transition offense, in the half court, in half court D. I mean maybe Ben was the key to stopping transition (I doubt it), what even is this?? Why do you have posters upset??

Not only that, but Doc is #1 on both sides of the ball on ATOs. Sorry guys, I hate your team (and all non-Raps teams), but im so impressed.

Lastly, yes im aware of competition/small samples/etc.., im just talking about the current data. Goodluck this season if this provides 0 discourse.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 7 

Post#1136 » by Mr Chim » Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:43 pm

vini_vidi_vici wrote:Where is your game thread?

Anyways, guys im blown away, and need an explanation.

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How are you guys so elite without Ben?? In transition offense, in the half court, in half court D. I mean maybe Ben was the key to stopping transition (I doubt it), what even is this?? Why do you have posters upset??

Not only that, but Doc is #1 on both sides of the ball on ATOs. Sorry guys, I hate your team (and all non-Raps teams), but im so impressed.

Lastly, yes im aware of competition/small samples/etc.., im just talking about the current data. Goodluck this season if this provides 0 discourse.

It’s because Gorgeous Niang and Forkon Korkgod have huge dongs.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 7 

Post#1137 » by sixers4real » Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:53 pm

I think we all have finally agreed that Brandon Ingram has to be the top priority for Ben Simmons.

And considering Pelicans record, it’s not impossible.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 7 

Post#1138 » by Murray_17 » Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:11 pm

vini_vidi_vici wrote:Where is your game thread?

Anyways, guys im blown away, and need an explanation.

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How are you guys so elite without Ben?? In transition offense, in the half court, in half court D. I mean maybe Ben was the key to stopping transition (I doubt it), what even is this?? Why do you have posters upset??

Not only that, but Doc is #1 on both sides of the ball on ATOs. Sorry guys, I hate your team (and all non-Raps teams), but im so impressed.

Lastly, yes im aware of competition/small samples/etc.., im just talking about the current data. Goodluck this season if this provides 0 discourse.



We have been generating good looks because we finally play more PnR, teams double Embiid early in position and that opens a shooter. We are high assist team and that creates open looks.

We still are playing a rotation of 8 guys right now, so i don't think we win this one

Niang, Korkmaz, Seth have been elite from 3 while Maxey and Shake are also shooting good in low volume.

Our halfcourt defense is good mostly, because Drummond plays against bench centers IMO lol. Bball Paul is gonna be one of the best defenders in the league at some point IMO too
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 7 

Post#1139 » by Embiid P » Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:20 pm

sixers4real wrote:I think we all have finally agreed that Brandon Ingram has to be the top priority for Ben Simmons.

And considering Pelicans record, it’s not impossible.


True but still highly unlikely especially since the Pels aren't going to be competing this year with Zion's weight issues so they'll likely want young pieces and picks back. I think any deal involving Simmons and Ingram is going to require a third team (Minnesota or Sacramento perhaps?) to take Simmons.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 7 

Post#1140 » by Skates » Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:58 pm

Embiid P wrote:
sixers4real wrote:I think we all have finally agreed that Brandon Ingram has to be the top priority for Ben Simmons.

And considering Pelicans record, it’s not impossible.


True but still highly unlikely especially since the Pels aren't going to be competing this year with Zion's weight issues so they'll likely want young pieces and picks back. I think any deal involving Simmons and Ingram is going to require a third team (Minnesota or Sacramento perhaps?) to take Simmons.


The Pelllies are looking more and more like the third team between the Sixers and the package of young and future assets for Simmons teams.

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