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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1121 » by the_process » Fri Feb 9, 2024 1:45 am

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GoSixersBro wrote:The Springer thing bothers me, but if it was to any other of the 28 teams I'd be a little forgiving. I'm sure another squad would've made that deal. Literally any other team than those green ****.


Yea why are we trading your best perimeter defenders to our rival teams.

I wasn't huge on Springer but he was likely the only player on the team that could possibly defend all four of Jrue, White, Brown and Tatum. The Celtics knew that and was smart enough to take a potential future lock down defender from a (psuedo) rival team.

When is the last time our rival teams(Celtics, Knicks,
Bucks) traded anything of value to us?


Springer isn't very good and they got what should be a top 40 2nd in return.

Not bad for a busted 28th pick honestly.

I have to believe the motivation was negotiations on another deal (probably Drummond) and Morey thought another 2nd would get it over the finish line.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1122 » by the_process » Fri Feb 9, 2024 1:57 am

I'm still questioning how the Sixers are currently below the minimum roster limit. They must be converting one of their two way guys. Terq would be my guess. I suppose it could be Lofton though?
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1123 » by Arsenal » Fri Feb 9, 2024 2:07 am

No way on Lofton, that guy is turrible.

I expect 2 buyout guys if possible.
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Post#1124 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Fri Feb 9, 2024 2:10 am

the_process wrote:I'm still questioning how the Sixers are currently below the minimum roster limit. They must be converting one of their two way guys. Terq would be my guess. I suppose it could be Lofton though?


I think it'll be Council, but I'd like to see both him and Terq added.
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Post#1125 » by 76ciology » Fri Feb 9, 2024 2:20 am

I believe we'll be alright.

Hield’s addition would alleviate the pressure on Oubre and Tobi to take an excessive number of 3s beyond their capabilities, potentially freeing up the lane for them to cut to the basket.

Once Embiid returns, he'll be surrounded by four scorers averaging between 16 to 20+ points per game. Not even Jokic or Giannis have that much scoring talent.

Regarding defense, I think Morey believes the length of the Batum-Oubre-Tobi-Roco-Reed is already sufficient, but there's room for improvement in the offseason, with a chance to pursue Paul George, and if not, perhaps Miles Bridges or Jalen Smith.

As for the backup point guard concern when Maxey is off the floor, that's where Cam Payne comes into play. I liked his performance during his time in Phoenix, where he effectively ran pick and rolls as Chris Paul's backup.

While Embiid is out, Maxey has three scorers to work with: Hield, Tobias, and Oubre. Oubre and Tobias have recently struggled, but perhaps Hield’s gravity will create opportunities for those two. It's up to Nurse to figure it out. We also have Payne running the offense when Maxey is on the bench. Hopefully, we can get Melton, Batum, and Roco back for additional two-way players.

If I were to guess, the two extra roster spots would be for a center and an additional wing (2 or 3 or 4). Because our inventory of wings isn't consistent, it’s better to have additional options from game to game. Then, Paul Reed as a center isn’t reliable either; he seems to struggle against bigger opponents and gets overpowered lately.

Depth Chart:
Maxey/Payne
Hield/Melton
Nic Batum/Oubre
Tobias/Roco
Embiid/Reed/Bamba

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1126 » by Arsenal » Fri Feb 9, 2024 2:32 am

Gallo just bought out. Go get him and Lowry or Dinwiddie, then we’re set.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1127 » by Mik317 » Fri Feb 9, 2024 2:36 am

naw not going to let the narrative that actually this team has enough scoring to win it all actually. **** out of here w/ that ****.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1128 » by 76ciology » Fri Feb 9, 2024 2:38 am

Mik317 wrote:naw not going to let the narrative that actually this team has enough scoring to win it all actually. **** out of here w/ that ****.


Bro, just play along i was told by REALGM to get these kids hyped
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Post#1129 » by TheBallsDeeper » Fri Feb 9, 2024 2:42 am

The lack of chasing a good player over the past couple of weeks suggests that Embiid is done for the season. It will be interesting if a medical report comes out to see how bad it is.

Sixers have traded in below players who can walk at the end of the season.
Embiid is the only player contracted for next year. Reed is non-guaranteed, and they have the right to match Maxey - which they will. He is Philly's only trade asset. Harris might get a little bit back in a sign and trade. The rest of the list is worthless.

It just seems that the front office knows Embiids cooked so they are positioning to go full tank.

With all those process draft picks - How the hell did the roster end up this bad??
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Post#1130 » by TheBallsDeeper » Fri Feb 9, 2024 2:43 am

Arsenal wrote:Gallo just bought out. Go get him and Lowry or Dinwiddie, then we’re set.

There's a reason that teams don't want Lowey and Dinwiddie.
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Post#1131 » by 76ciology » Fri Feb 9, 2024 2:48 am

TheBallsDeeper wrote:The lack of chasing a good player over the past couple of weeks suggests that Embiid is done for the season. It will be interesting if a medical report comes out to see how bad it is.

Sixers have traded in below players who can walk at the end of the season.
Embiid is the only player contracted for next year. Reed is non-guaranteed, and they have the right to match Maxey - which they will. He is Philly's only trade asset. Harris might get a little bit back in a sign and trade. The rest of the list is worthless.

It just seems that the front office knows Embiids cooked so they are positioning to go full tank.

With all those process draft picks - How the hell did the roster end up this bad??


I don't understand how you could conclude that Embiid is out for the season after acquiring this 1 year rental of Buddy Hield. If Embiid were out for the season, we likely would have kept those second-round picks instead of trading Springer and Beverly for additional ones.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1132 » by 76ciology » Fri Feb 9, 2024 2:57 am

I like the Springer trade because it relieves the stress for our front office and our fans of constantly searching for polite ways to describe how poor of a player he is. Additionally, I hope this franchise will STOP drafting guards who can’t score, especially those who can’t shoot.
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Post#1133 » by FireMorey » Fri Feb 9, 2024 3:03 am

The Sixers aren't set at anything until/if Embiid comes back. Until that happens, I think the team will be in continuous free fall. They just aren't a good team without him. The record speaks for itself. They may be somewhat better if/when some other guys get back on the court, but they've been an injured bunch all year. Frankly, I suspect some guys have been sitting with injuries this season they would've played with in past seasons. There seems to be a lot of missed games with illnesses and strains. They don't seem too concerned about pushing the envelope this season in any respect. And their general passiveness at the deadline continued to reflect that.

They look play in bound as it currently stands. Who knows how far they could fall by then, it's looking like Embiid is back at the end of March at the earliest, and that's if he's back at all.
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Post#1134 » by 76ciology » Fri Feb 9, 2024 3:09 am

Paul Reed has to play out of his mind, diving for every loose ball and hustling like prime Dennis Rodman in the first round of the playoffs; his $7M will be at stake.
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Post#1135 » by Eyeamok » Fri Feb 9, 2024 3:17 am

SixthStreet wrote:Hield was on track to play his first playoff game in his career this year before the trade. I wonder if that's still the case.


i hear Heild pushed for the 76ers. He likes his long summers off from basketball.
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Post#1136 » by 76ciology » Fri Feb 9, 2024 4:15 am

Defensive match-ups

Maxey = Jrue
Kelly Oubre = Jalen Brown
Nic Batum = Jayson Tatum
Tobias Harris = Al Horford
Joel Embiid = Kristaps Porzingis
Buddy Hield = Derrick White
DeAnthony Melton = Sam Hauser
Cam Payne = Payton Pritchard
Paul Reed = Xavier Tillman


Scoring match-ups:

Joel Embiid 35ppg = Jayson Tatum 26ppg
Tyrese Maxey 25ppg = Jalen Brown 22ppg
Tobias Harris 18ppg = Kristaps Porzingis 19ppg
Buddy Hield 12ppg = Derrick White 16ppg
Kelly Oubre 14ppg = Jrue Holiday 13ppg
DeAnthony Melton 12ppg = Sam Hauser 8ppg
Nic Batum 6ppg = Al Horford 8ppg
Cam Payne 6ppg = Payton Pritchard 8ppg
Paul Reed 6ppg = Xavier Tillman 6ppg
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Post#1137 » by ivysixer2000 » Fri Feb 9, 2024 5:13 am

Glad we did something, although I really don't feel like it will matter much this season. I do believe Jojo should be shut down, just my opinion though. The Knicks are better than us, its hamulating.

After the process was handled so successfully, bad management can screw up a wet dream. Now we get to see it work in Oklahoma City, sad really. I do like the Buddy addition, too bad it took too long. Would be a great 6th man if we could actually find a starting shooting guard, but he will have to due for the time being.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1138 » by ivysixer2000 » Fri Feb 9, 2024 5:23 am

76ciology wrote:Defensive match-ups

Maxey = Jrue
Kelly Oubre = Jalen Brown
Nic Batum = Jayson Tatum
Tobias Harris = Al Horford
Joel Embiid = Kristaps Porzingis
DeAnthony Melton = Derrick White
Buddy Hield = Sam Hauser
Cam Payne = Payton Pritchard
Paul Reed = Xavier Tillman


Scoring match-ups:

Joel Embiid 35ppg = Jayson Tatum 26ppg
Tyrese Maxey 25ppg = Jalen Brown 22ppg
Tobias Harris 18ppg = Kristaps Porzingis 19ppg
Buddy Hield 12ppg = Derrick White 16ppg
Kelly Oubre 14ppg = Jrue Holiday 13ppg
DeAnthony Melton 12ppg = Sam Hauser 8ppg
Nic Batum 6ppg = Al Horford 8ppg
Cam Payne 6ppg = Payton Pritchard 8ppg
Paul Reed 6ppg = Xavier Tillman 6ppg


Well gotta say I love your optimism, but I would definitely put Tatum over 30 against us. Half our team is scared he will embarrass them, especially Tobi. The Celtics are a bad matchup for us, no way around that. We have length now, but its old as dirt. Anything can happen in the playoffs if Jojo is back, might not even see them, but there is no way in present form I can see us beating them healthy in a 7 game series.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1139 » by phillynative » Fri Feb 9, 2024 5:36 am

Arsenal wrote:No way on Lofton, that guy is turrible.

I expect 2 buyout guys if possible.


Why are they wasting their time with Lofton when they have a multi tool young athlete who can actually get up and down the floor in Darius Bazley who is on the Blue Coats. They need to cut Lofton and sign Bazley. Cov and Batum are old and hampered. Let them rest and see if they can get healthy at some point in the season.

With Embiid and the old heads out its time to pick up the pace and play the young athletes Maxey, Hield, Payne, Terq, Council,
Oubre, Reed, and add Bazley who's a athletic 4/3.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1140 » by 76ciology » Fri Feb 9, 2024 5:44 am

Buddy Hield vs Celtics
5 games
29mpg
14ppg
3.6RPG
3.4APG
1.4SPG
50 FG%
49 3PT%

OnCourt
123 ORtg
115.8 DRtg
+7 Net Rtg

OffCourt
94.7 ORtg
136 DRtg
-41 NetRtg

+48 On vs Off NetRTG

Ok, he might be playable against the Celts. About to check the tape on who he defends on most of these games.
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