Where is Nerlens?

[HartfordWhalers]

I think if Noel was being moved, we would have heard rumblings of it

Here are the Sixers moves since Colangelo and the ones that I feel we have heard rumblings about beforehand:

Draft:
Actual picks:
Simmons
TLC
Korkmaz

Rumblings:
Simmons
trade
trade


Free agency:
Actual signings:
Bayless
Henderson
Sergio

Rumblings:
Waiters
Barnes
?

Trades:
Actual trades:
Grant

Rumblings:
Noel (back at draft time, none since)


Unless I have missed some, rumblings haven't really been informative outside of that the Sixers would take the #1 prospect #1 in the draft.

[Kolkmania]

I think if Noel was being moved, we would have heard rumblings of it

Here are the Sixers moves since Colangelo and the ones that I feel we have heard rumblings about beforehand:

Draft:
Actual picks:
Simmons
TLC
Korkmaz

Rumblings:
Simmons
trade
trade


Free agency:
Actual signings:
Bayless
Henderson
Sergio

Rumblings:
Waiters
Barnes
?

Trades:
Actual trades:
Grant

Rumblings:
Noel (back at draft time, none since)


Unless I have missed some, rumblings haven't really been informative outside of that the Sixers would take the #1 prospect #1 in the draft.

Fire Hinkie, we want transparency! Oh wait...

[PhilasFinest]

I think if Noel was being moved, we would have heard rumblings of it

Here are the Sixers moves since Colangelo and the ones that I feel we have heard rumblings about beforehand:

Draft:
Actual picks:
Simmons
TLC
Korkmaz

Rumblings:
Simmons
trade
trade


Free agency:
Actual signings:
Bayless
Henderson
Sergio

Rumblings:
Waiters
Barnes
?

Trades:
Actual trades:
Grant

Rumblings:
Noel (back at draft time, none since)


Unless I have missed some, rumblings haven't really been informative outside of that the Sixers would take the #1 prospect #1 in the draft.

I was not necessarily saying that BC/The Sixers are loose lipped. Im simply saying that If Noel was essentially traded already (like implied by the post I was replying to) I think we may have heard something about it.

[HartfordWhalers]

I was not necessarily saying that BC/The Sixers are loose lipped. Im simply saying that If Noel was essentially traded already (like implied by the post I was replying to) I think we may have heard something about it.

Erase my comment! (Or save it for where it should be). Yeah, I agree completely with you. There is no way a deal is already agreed to and not out in the public domain.

I'm still on cup of coffee 1. Sorry!

[eagereyez]

Are you guys expecting Noel to actually play for you all again or do you think the team already has a trade for him which is why they let him do the surgery since they didn't want him being hurt because one of the players being moved for him can't be move do until dec?

Especially considering that Joel and Jah should be coming off of the minute restrictions around December.

Noel is gone sooner or later. Someone will offer him a near max contract this off-season, and it would be unwise to give $20M to someone who can't share the floor with Simmons and Embiid.

[Worm122]

Trade Noel to Wizards

[PhilasFinest]

Trade Noel to Wizards

1. Who are they giving up that makes it worth it for us?

2.What happens to Gortat?
He is under contract for 12M this year and then 12.7M/13.5M in the following seasons.
Also, they inked Ian Mahinmi to a ridiculous deal. He's on the books for 16M a year for the next 4 years.

Noel hypothetically makes a ton of sense for that team, he'd be a great fit with Wall......but I can't see them trading a wing for him and then spending nearly 20M a year on another 5.

[Worm122]

Trade Noel to Wizards

1. Who are they giving up that makes it worth it for us?

2.What happens to Gortat?
He is under contract for 12M this year and then 12.7M/13.5M in the following seasons.
Also, they inked Ian Mahinmi to a ridiculous deal. He's on the books for 16M a year for the next 4 years.

Noel hypothetically makes a ton of sense for that team, he'd be a great fit with Wall......but I can't see them trading a wing for him and then spending nearly 20M a year on another 5.

Maybe they trade Gortat and we are able to get a pick and Oubre for Noel

[Kobblehead]

The Noel for Porter swap made sense for both teams several months back. Now Porter has broke out and shattered the equal value aspect of the trade and Washington sunk money into Ian Mahinmi. So, so much for that.

[MatthewGeigerII]

The Noel for Porter swap made sense for both teams several months back. Now Porter has broke out and shattered the equal value aspect of the trade and Washington sunk money into Ian Mahinmi. So, so much for that.

what if we take on Gortat as incentive? make him our problem to trade.

Noel and Hollis for Porter/ Gortat.

They resign Noel. We resign Porter.
They start Oubre. We start Embiid
We flip Gortat for whatever - include some of our trusty 2nds to help get the deal done.
Everyone's happy.

[PhilasFinest]

The Noel for Porter swap made sense for both teams several months back. Now Porter has broke out and shattered the equal value aspect of the trade and Washington sunk money into Ian Mahinmi. So, so much for that.

what if we take on Gortat as incentive? make him our problem to trade.

Noel and Hollis for Porter/ Gortat.

They resign Noel. We resign Porter.
They start Oubre. We start Embiid
We flip Gortat for whatever - include some of our trusty 2nds to help get the deal done.
Everyone's happy.

Gortat isn't a bad player and is not on a terrible contract either. I dont think they are simply "throwing him in" to make it work.

Lets not forget Noel is coming off of an injury too. We hold little to no leverage in many deals.

[Negrodamus]

The way Brett Brown was talking about Nerlens, it sure sounds like he's on his way out, unfortunately (to me).

[spikeslovechild]

I'd love to move Noel to Boston for the pick and acquire WCS to backup Embiid. He has three years left. He is the perfect backup C.

[PhilasFinest]

Noel was barely around the team during the offseason,Then comes out and vocally states his displeasure and says what we all pretty much knew, that the whole 3 center thing wouldn't work. He's then injured prior to the season, goes and gets a procedure done, declines any contract extension talks and is still barely around the team throughout the 1st month of the season.

Could simply be a coincidence, but certainly seems to me like he's taking the initiate to isolate himself from the team. He will be back now that he is healthy, but the writings on the wall.....Noel's time with Philly is ticking. We will be lucky to get anything in return for him.

[TTP]

The Noel for Porter swap made sense for both teams several months back. Now Porter has broke out and shattered the equal value aspect of the trade and Washington sunk money into Ian Mahinmi. So, so much for that.

what if we take on Gortat as incentive? make him our problem to trade.

Noel and Hollis for Porter/ Gortat.

They resign Noel. We resign Porter.
They start Oubre. We start Embiid
We flip Gortat for whatever - include some of our trusty 2nds to help get the deal done.
Everyone's happy.

This doesn't make sense. If you accept that Porter is worth more than Noel (which you seem to have done given the post you responded to), it's an even worse deal to include Gortat. Gortat is an asset on his current deal - he's making roughly 12.8 mil a year the next 3 seasons and he's likely worth significantly more under these cap conditions. It should not be a problem for them to trade him if they desire to.

[PhilasFinest]

The Noel for Porter swap made sense for both teams several months back. Now Porter has broke out and shattered the equal value aspect of the trade and Washington sunk money into Ian Mahinmi. So, so much for that.

what if we take on Gortat as incentive? make him our problem to trade.

Noel and Hollis for Porter/ Gortat.

They resign Noel. We resign Porter.
They start Oubre. We start Embiid
We flip Gortat for whatever - include some of our trusty 2nds to help get the deal done.
Everyone's happy.

This doesn't make sense. If you accept that Porter is worth more than Noel (which you seem to have done given the post you responded to), it's an even worse deal to include Gortat. Gortat is an asset on his current deal - he's making roughly 12.8 mil a year the next 3 seasons and he's likely worth significantly more under these cap conditions. It should not be a problem for them to trade him if they desire to.

Agreed. If anything, they would likely try to force Mahinmi and his awful 4/64M contract into the deal.

[TTP]

Noel was barely around the team during the offseason,Then comes out and vocally states his displeasure and says what we all pretty much knew, that the whole 3 center thing wouldn't work. He's then injured prior to the season, goes and gets a procedure done, declines any contract extension talks and is still barely around the team throughout the 1st month of the season.

Could simply be a coincidence, but certainly seems to me like he's taking the initiate to isolate himself from the team. He will be back now that he is healthy, but the writings on the wall.....Noel's time with Philly is ticking. We will be lucky to get anything in return for him.

You have evidence for the bolded? Looks a lot like the spread of misinformation to me.

[TTP]

what if we take on Gortat as incentive? make him our problem to trade.

Noel and Hollis for Porter/ Gortat.

They resign Noel. We resign Porter.
They start Oubre. We start Embiid
We flip Gortat for whatever - include some of our trusty 2nds to help get the deal done.
Everyone's happy.

This doesn't make sense. If you accept that Porter is worth more than Noel (which you seem to have done given the post you responded to), it's an even worse deal to include Gortat. Gortat is an asset on his current deal - he's making roughly 12.8 mil a year the next 3 seasons and he's likely worth significantly more under these cap conditions. It should not be a problem for them to trade him if they desire to.

Agreed. If anything, they would likely try to force Mahinmi and his awful 4/64M contract into the deal.

Mahinmi deal seems fine. He was under the radar really good last season.

[PhilasFinest]

Noel was barely around the team during the offseason,Then comes out and vocally states his displeasure and says what we all pretty much knew, that the whole 3 center thing wouldn't work. He's then injured prior to the season, goes and gets a procedure done, declines any contract extension talks and is still barely around the team throughout the 1st month of the season.

Could simply be a coincidence, but certainly seems to me like he's taking the initiate to isolate himself from the team. He will be back now that he is healthy, but the writings on the wall.....Noel's time with Philly is ticking. We will be lucky to get anything in return for him.

You have evidence for the bolded? Looks a lot like the spread of misinformation to me.

BC from a quoted article in Inquirer:

"It's not really something that we've discussed given some of the concerns that Nerlens has had right now," said Colangelo, the team's president of basketball operations. "There's been very little, if any, discussion with him or his agents about any extension scenarios.

"But, I'll just leave it at that."

Maybe "declines any contract extension talks" was a poor choice of words, but its still pretty clear that either Noel and his camp had no interest in signing one.....or our organization is also ready to part ways with Noel as well. Either way, doesn't really help add any light to the situation.

[TTP]

Noel was barely around the team during the offseason,Then comes out and vocally states his displeasure and says what we all pretty much knew, that the whole 3 center thing wouldn't work. He's then injured prior to the season, goes and gets a procedure done, declines any contract extension talks and is still barely around the team throughout the 1st month of the season.

Could simply be a coincidence, but certainly seems to me like he's taking the initiate to isolate himself from the team. He will be back now that he is healthy, but the writings on the wall.....Noel's time with Philly is ticking. We will be lucky to get anything in return for him.

You have evidence for the bolded? Looks a lot like the spread of misinformation to me.

BC from a quoted article in Inquirer:

"It's not really something that we've discussed given some of the concerns that Nerlens has had right now," said Colangelo, the team's president of basketball operations. "There's been very little, if any, discussion with his agents about any extension scenarios.

"But, I'll just leave it at that."

Maybe "declines any contract extension talks" was a poor choice of words, but its still pretty clear that either Noel and his camp had no interest in signing one.....or our organization is also ready to part ways with Noel as well. Either way, doesn't really help add any light to the situation.

Yeah that's way too strong of a claim. People are making way too many assumptions about a situation that we know very little information about.

That statement only states that Nerlens has had some concerns about his role, which is one of the few pieces of information we are certain of. It then leads you to believe that he's the one not willing to sign an extension, when in reality it could be either party. It's absolutely not clear that it's Nerlens' camp that's not interested.

Little snippets of misinformation like this lead to a miserable game of whisper down the lane where people keep regurgitating more misinformation and presenting it as fact.