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GoCeltics123 wrote:FYI not sure if you saw this but a Lakers insider on reddit, who's apparently considered credible by their mods, said the 4 year/$100+ offer for Al Horford is from Philly
https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/c2a06p/al_horford_is_likely_going_to_the_76ers/
mhunt wrote:GoCeltics123 wrote:FYI not sure if you saw this but a Lakers insider on reddit, who's apparently considered credible by their mods, said the 4 year/$100+ offer for Al Horford is from Philly
https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/c2a06p/al_horford_is_likely_going_to_the_76ers/
yeah...i saw that posted somewhere on here. and i've been trying to figure out how replacing harris with a guy 10 years older than him...and locking up horford until he's 36 y/o make any sense.
GoCeltics123 wrote:FYI not sure if you saw this but a Lakers insider on reddit, who's apparently considered credible by their mods, said the 4 year/$100+ offer for Al Horford is from Philly
https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/c2a06p/al_horford_is_likely_going_to_the_76ers/
GoCeltics123 wrote:FYI not sure if you saw this but a Lakers insider on reddit, who's apparently considered credible by their mods, said the 4 year/$100+ offer for Al Horford is from Philly
https://www.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/c2a06p/al_horford_is_likely_going_to_the_76ers/
, I had an acquaintance in Tokyo many years ago who owned a Piper Cub (he represented hookshot199 wrote:smittybanton wrote:hookshot199 wrote:
So it's beginning to look as if the Lakers will be able to unload Wagner, Bonga and Jones. And I wouldn't be shocked
if Davis waives his $4 mil trade kicker, creating a possibility to bring in a third max player. That's potentially bad if
Butler is on the Laker's "wish" list. On the other hand, we can still offer him a fifth year; the Laker's can't. The same
for Tobias. As for JJ, he really has value coming off the bench. I think there's a good chance we lose him. That may
or may not be bad. I don't know who's out there who could fill his instant-offense role. Maybe it will be Cam Johnson.
Hopefully, we'll do better at developing a bench during the season. I think we drafted well last June. If we have a
repeat performance on Thursday, then hopefully Hodges will replicate what the Spurs player development system.
And hopefully our new medical team will give us a better chance for Embiid to be healthy coming into the playoffs.
I hope that Brand and Harris have locks on Butler and Tobias. We'll find out, I guess.
i suspect that third max spot is reserved for kyrie irving. would be too much to ask for leonard and horford to go to the clippers, kyrie to diss the nets for the lakers, and for the nets and mavericks and the knicks to spend their loot on poaching the bucks free agents. my brother went to a bucks game in milwaukee last december and said the place was empty. they are less able to afford running it back than we are. fingers crossed.
Anything can happen, but of all the available max players, Irving would be the one I would wish upon
the Lakers. He doesn't play D. Their bench is going to be razer thin. And we'll see if his estrangement
from LeBron works. All this 1+1 talk is malarkey for a guy who had/has pins in his knee.
I'm not sure how successful a team can be with seven minimum contract players and two starters who
don't play D.
I hope we don't get blindsided. I do believe we'll have to pay both Butler and Tobias more than we had
hoped. But that's the nature of things.
Let's hope we draft another Shamet, perhaps two, with our three picks. And I still like both Scott and
Ennis. They'll probably be out of our price range.
Re Milwaukee: Giannis has to improve his shooting. He's got four more years under his belt than Simmons.
And Bledsoe is trick or treat. If they lose part of their bench, especially Lopez, they won't be as good.
I wouldn't be averse to flipping for Ilyasova for Jonathan Simmons. Would love to pick up Connaughton
since he's redundant with Brogdon almost surely coming back.
But until everybody's signed, it's pins and needles.
smittybanton wrote:hookshot199 wrote:smittybanton wrote:
i suspect that third max spot is reserved for kyrie irving. would be too much to ask for leonard and horford to go to the clippers, kyrie to diss the nets for the lakers, and for the nets and mavericks and the knicks to spend their loot on poaching the bucks free agents. my brother went to a bucks game in milwaukee last december and said the place was empty. they are less able to afford running it back than we are. fingers crossed.
Anything can happen, but of all the available max players, Irving would be the one I would wish upon
the Lakers. He doesn't play D. Their bench is going to be razer thin. And we'll see if his estrangement
from LeBron works. All this 1+1 talk is malarkey for a guy who had/has pins in his knee.
I'm not sure how successful a team can be with seven minimum contract players and two starters who
don't play D.
I hope we don't get blindsided. I do believe we'll have to pay both Butler and Tobias more than we had
hoped. But that's the nature of things.
Let's hope we draft another Shamet, perhaps two, with our three picks. And I still like both Scott and
Ennis. They'll probably be out of our price range.
Re Milwaukee: Giannis has to improve his shooting. He's got four more years under his belt than Simmons.
And Bledsoe is trick or treat. If they lose part of their bench, especially Lopez, they won't be as good.
I wouldn't be averse to flipping for Ilyasova for Jonathan Simmons. Would love to pick up Connaughton
since he's redundant with Brogdon almost surely coming back.
But until everybody's signed, it's pins and needles.
Yeah, I have no doubt we'll offer max or near max deals to butler and harris. I think the biggest risk is tobias choosing to go home to the nets over the extra years and money. there's a lot of discussion about us choosing to go in a different direction when its possible we'll have no choice. in the scenario where jimmy stays and tobias leaves, there's a lot of options to consider.
BullyKing wrote:Sixerscan wrote:BullyKing wrote:
I heard the thing about Butler but didn't hear anything about Harris/Redick. Was this on his podcast or a Sportscenter piece?
He said it on their mock draft thing on espn last night. Calm down lol. Every team has rumors about how their stars are staying/leaving. The rumors about the Sixers stars leaving seem a lot more flimsy than other teams.
Sixers are in a good spot.
In my defense, I was posting at 4am after waking up in the middle of the night after drinking way too much earlier in the evening.
hookshot199 wrote:smittybanton wrote:hookshot199 wrote:
Anything can happen, but of all the available max players, Irving would be the one I would wish upon
the Lakers. He doesn't play D. Their bench is going to be razer thin. And we'll see if his estrangement
from LeBron works. All this 1+1 talk is malarkey for a guy who had/has pins in his knee.
I'm not sure how successful a team can be with seven minimum contract players and two starters who
don't play D.
I hope we don't get blindsided. I do believe we'll have to pay both Butler and Tobias more than we had
hoped. But that's the nature of things.
Let's hope we draft another Shamet, perhaps two, with our three picks. And I still like both Scott and
Ennis. They'll probably be out of our price range.
Re Milwaukee: Giannis has to improve his shooting. He's got four more years under his belt than Simmons.
And Bledsoe is trick or treat. If they lose part of their bench, especially Lopez, they won't be as good.
I wouldn't be averse to flipping for Ilyasova for Jonathan Simmons. Would love to pick up Connaughton
since he's redundant with Brogdon almost surely coming back.
But until everybody's signed, it's pins and needles.
Yeah, I have no doubt we'll offer max or near max deals to butler and harris. I think the biggest risk is tobias choosing to go home to the nets over the extra years and money. there's a lot of discussion about us choosing to go in a different direction when its possible we'll have no choice. in the scenario where jimmy stays and tobias leaves, there's a lot of options to consider.
Scary. On paper Tobias is the perfect fit in terms of his demographic. He didn't show it in the playoffs.
Then again, another time.
ProcessDoctor wrote:Utah overpaid big time. Two firsts for a declining injury-prone PG?
brannigan73 wrote:There is nothing scary about losing Tobias Harris. He just isn't that good of a player. There are plenty of 4's that can hit a three pointer. For example the Sixers could absorb Illyasova's contract from the Bucks. They are apparently willing to give him away to free up cap space. He is only on the books for $7 million a year. Sure Tobias is better but he isnt that much better when you look at the analytics. Both are 1-2 RPM (real plus minus) players. Then you could take all that savings and round out the roster with a couple of nice rotations pieces say Danny Green and Dwayne Dedmon to just pull a few names out of the air. Or you could sign Nikola Mirotic another fairly similar player and while it wouldnt be as big as savings as Ersan use the money saved to shore up the bench. People have brainwashed themselves with Harris. Look beyond the counting stats at the catch all type stats and he is just not someone to overly fret about losing. They can get more value with the 29 million they would have by letting him walk as long as Brand isnt a complete idiot then keeping him. Tobias Harris not a star stop talking yourselves into that idea.
brannigan73 wrote:hookshot199 wrote:smittybanton wrote:
Yeah, I have no doubt we'll offer max or near max deals to butler and harris. I think the biggest risk is tobias choosing to go home to the nets over the extra years and money. there's a lot of discussion about us choosing to go in a different direction when its possible we'll have no choice. in the scenario where jimmy stays and tobias leaves, there's a lot of options to consider.
Scary. On paper Tobias is the perfect fit in terms of his demographic. He didn't show it in the playoffs.
Then again, another time.
There is nothing scary about losing Tobias Harris. He just isn't that good of a player. There are plenty of 4's that can hit a three pointer. For example the Sixers could absorb Illyasova's contract from the Bucks. They are apparently willing to give him away to free up cap space. He is only on the books for $7 million a year. Sure Tobias is better but he isnt that much better when you look at the analytics. Both are 1-2 RPM (real plus minus) players. Then you could take all that savings and round out the roster with a couple of nice rotations pieces say Danny Green and Dwayne Dedmon to just pull a few names out of the air. Or you could sign Nikola Mirotic another fairly similar player and while it wouldnt be as big as savings as Ersan use the money saved to shore up the bench. People have brainwashed themselves with Harris. Look beyond the counting stats at the catch all type stats and he is just not someone to overly fret about losing. They can get more value with the 29 million they would have by letting him walk as long as Brand isnt a complete idiot then keeping him. Tobias Harris not a star stop talking yourselves into that idea.
And the funniest part to me is, i'm one of the few on the planet who thinks tomas satoransky is wildly underrated and is very close to being as good as tobias harris, but in his own way. it's just the idea that you're curing folks of some delusion is that in itself. Negrodamus wrote:
phiphan wrote:Horford is really good. Swapping him with Tobias may shorten our time of contention window, but it also opens it a lot wider for a couple years.
