Around the League Discussion - 2018-2019 (Playoffs)

[Negrodamus]

Right, but we pointed to explosive break away dunks and fade aways in the paint as reasons for optimism last season. Plus passing ability and defensive tools. We've seen this episode before.

Yea, like I said, he has value in the same way someone like Rondo has value (headache aside) in this current NBA. He could be an excellent backup point guard/combo guard off the bench if he never gets his shot back.

[Negrodamus]

Hawks vs Pelicans should be fun tonight. Those two should be the future of the NBA unless the wheels fall off for whatever reason.

[LloydFree]

Right, but we pointed to explosive break away dunks and fade aways in the paint as reasons for optimism last season. Plus passing ability and defensive tools. We've seen this episode before.

Yea, like I said, he has value in the same way someone like Rondo has value (headache aside) in this current NBA. He could be an excellent backup point guard/combo guard off the bench if he never gets his shot back.

I don't know what Rondo has done in his career to be so consistently disrespected. SMH.

[Negrodamus]

Right, but we pointed to explosive break away dunks and fade aways in the paint as reasons for optimism last season. Plus passing ability and defensive tools. We've seen this episode before.

Yea, like I said, he has value in the same way someone like Rondo has value (headache aside) in this current NBA. He could be an excellent backup point guard/combo guard off the bench if he never gets his shot back.

I don't know what Rondo has done in his career to be so consistently disrespected. SMH.

Not be able to shoot. I mean, he's an okay player right now. Much like Fultz, I wouldn't want him starting for my favorite team.

[LloydFree]

Yea, like I said, he has value in the same way someone like Rondo has value (headache aside) in this current NBA. He could be an excellent backup point guard/combo guard off the bench if he never gets his shot back.

I don't know what Rondo has done in his career to be so consistently disrespected. SMH.

Not be able to shoot. I mean, he's an okay player right now. Much like Fultz, I wouldn't want him starting for my favorite team.

Rajon Rondo is a Champion, a borderline Hall of Famer and almost singlehandedly won the 2009 Championship with an injured Celtics team. Comparing Markelle Fultz to Rondo at any point in his career, is ludicrous.

[Negrodamus]

I don't know what Rondo has done in his career to be so consistently disrespected. SMH.

Not be able to shoot. I mean, he's an okay player right now. Much like Fultz, I wouldn't want him starting for my favorite team.

Rajon Rondo is a Champion, a borderline Hall of Famer and almost singlehandedly won the 2009 Championship with an injured Celtics team. Comparing Markelle Fultz to Rondo at any point in his career, is ludicrous.

I'm comparing him to Rondo now, the ok, but washed PG that is only starting because the Lakers couldn't afford to provide competition at the position. All the achievements you mentioned is superfluous to this conversation.

[LloydFree]

Not be able to shoot. I mean, he's an okay player right now. Much like Fultz, I wouldn't want him starting for my favorite team.

Rajon Rondo is a Champion, a borderline Hall of Famer and almost singlehandedly won the 2009 Championship with an injured Celtics team. Comparing Markelle Fultz to Rondo at any point in his career, is ludicrous.

I'm comparing him to Rondo now, the ok, but washed PG that is only starting because the Lakers couldn't afford to provide competition at the position. All the achievements you mentioned is superfluous to this conversation.

Please. Cut it out. The comparison is ridiculous. Fultz isn't as good as 33 year old Rondo, RIGHT NOW. Fultz would have to make major improvements in not only Shooting, but defensive awareness, to be as good as Kris Dunn. He's not good. Shooting is just part of it.

[Negrodamus]

Rajon Rondo is a Champion, a borderline Hall of Famer and almost singlehandedly won the 2009 Championship with an injured Celtics team. Comparing Markelle Fultz to Rondo at any point in his career, is ludicrous.

I'm comparing him to Rondo now, the ok, but washed PG that is only starting because the Lakers couldn't afford to provide competition at the position. All the achievements you mentioned is superfluous to this conversation.

Please. Cut it out. The comparison is ridiculous. Fultz isn't as good as 33 year old Rondo, RIGHT NOW. Fultz would have to make major improvements in not only Shooting, but defensive awareness, to be as good as Kris Dunn. He's not good. Shooting is just part of it.

he has value in the same way someone like Rondo has value (headache aside) in this current NBA

First of all, I never said he will be equal in value as Rondo, I'm just pointing to a play style that still works in the NBA, but is antiquated.

Second, I know you absolutely don't like Fultz on a multitude of levels, but here's the thing: I don't really care about him. So this is the absolute length I'm willing to go to defend him.

[LloydFree]

If PJ Washington has a legit 3 ball, he's going to be an issue on offense. Excellent small ball, PnR PF.

I always thought he had good form on his shot. I think his shot will be legit. PJ Washington is nice.

Saw that Hornets Celtics game. I don't think the Hornets aren't going to be as bad as people think. I'd take the over if I were betting.

[Kobblehead]

Hornets have a collection of guys that can play, but they're fodder in any game where a star feels like taking over. They have no horse to ride.

[LloydFree]

Hornets have a collection of guys that can play, but they're fodder in any game where a star feels like taking over. They have no horse to ride.

Orlando doesn't have a star, and they made the playoffs last year, over Charlotte (Kemba) and Washington (Beal).

I'd bet confidently that Charlotte will be better than Washington this year, even if Washington keeps Beal all year.

[Sixerscan]

Hornets have a collection of guys that can play, but they're fodder in any game where a star feels like taking over. They have no horse to ride.

Orlando doesn't have a star, and they made the playoffs last year, over Charlotte (Kemba) and Washington (Beal).

I'd bet confidently that Charlotte will be better than Washington this year, even if Washington keeps Beal all year.

Probably, not sure who else though.

Speaking of the Magic they look really good again so far. Done a good job assembling a rotation full of good defensive players.

[Kobblehead]

Hornets have a collection of guys that can play, but they're fodder in any game where a star feels like taking over. They have no horse to ride.

Orlando doesn't have a star, and they made the playoffs last year, over Charlotte (Kemba) and Washington (Beal).

I'd bet confidently that Charlotte will be better than Washington this year, even if Washington keeps Beal all year.

Orlando was loaded with 2-way players (Ross, Gordon, Isaac) and had a guy they could bank on getting 20 for them every night (Vuc). I don't see Charlotte having any of that.

Inefficient Terry Rozier might be their #1 option and literally tank their season.

[LloydFree]

Hornets have a collection of guys that can play, but they're fodder in any game where a star feels like taking over. They have no horse to ride.

Orlando doesn't have a star, and they made the playoffs last year, over Charlotte (Kemba) and Washington (Beal).

I'd bet confidently that Charlotte will be better than Washington this year, even if Washington keeps Beal all year.

Orlando was loaded with 2-way players (Ross, Gordon, Isaac) and had a guy they could bank on getting 20 for them every night (Vuc). I don't see Charlotte having any of that.

Inefficient Terry Rozier might be their #1 option and literally tank their season.

Rozier is over-payed, but I don't think he's going to be nearly as bad as people expect. And unlike Kemba Walker, Rozier can actually defend opposing PGs. Charlotte mishandled the Kemba Walker situation by not trading him, but they won't regret refusing to pay him the max.

[Sixerscan]

Orlando doesn't have a star, and they made the playoffs last year, over Charlotte (Kemba) and Washington (Beal).

I'd bet confidently that Charlotte will be better than Washington this year, even if Washington keeps Beal all year.

Orlando was loaded with 2-way players (Ross, Gordon, Isaac) and had a guy they could bank on getting 20 for them every night (Vuc). I don't see Charlotte having any of that.

Inefficient Terry Rozier might be their #1 option and literally tank their season.

Rozier is over-payed, but I don't think he's going to be nearly as bad as people expect. And unlike Kemba Walker, Rozier can actually defend opposing PGs. Charlotte mishandled the Kemba Walker situation by not trading him, but they won't regret refusing to pay him the max.

That's for sure. But if they don't actually rebuild there probably won't be much difference.

[LloydFree]

Hornets have a collection of guys that can play, but they're fodder in any game where a star feels like taking over. They have no horse to ride.

Orlando doesn't have a star, and they made the playoffs last year, over Charlotte (Kemba) and Washington (Beal).

I'd bet confidently that Charlotte will be better than Washington this year, even if Washington keeps Beal all year.

Probably, not sure who else though.

Speaking of the Magic they look really good again so far. Done a good job assembling a rotation full of good defensive players.

Orlando has a bunch good players. Really no bad players in their top 5, and they all are veterans. If Jonathan Isaac ever made a Siakam like jump, they'd be a serious problem.

[Kobblehead]

Rozier is over-payed, but I don't think he's going to be nearly as bad as people expect. And unlike Kemba Walker, Rozier can actually defend opposing PGs.

If Terry Rozier was a 49% true shooting guy on Brad Stevens coached teams loaded with offensive options, it's hard for me to imagine him somehow being efficient as the man on a worse-coached team with less offensive options. I think he's going to be a trainwreck.

[LloydFree]

Orlando was loaded with 2-way players (Ross, Gordon, Isaac) and had a guy they could bank on getting 20 for them every night (Vuc). I don't see Charlotte having any of that.

Inefficient Terry Rozier might be their #1 option and literally tank their season.

Rozier is over-payed, but I don't think he's going to be nearly as bad as people expect. And unlike Kemba Walker, Rozier can actually defend opposing PGs. Charlotte mishandled the Kemba Walker situation by not trading him, but they won't regret refusing to pay him the max.

That's for sure. But if they don't actually rebuild there probably won't be much difference.

Either way the decision to pass on paying Kemba Walker 190-210 million dollars, was the right decision. That would have put them in a worse position than they are right now. They just gotta let the Michael Kidd-Gilcrest and Nic Batum contracts expire before they do anything else stupid. But even if you don't trust them to rebuild properly, overpaying a flawed, older player, like Kemba Walker the max to play for a losing team, isn't the way to go.

[Negrodamus]

If Lonzo fixed that shot, I'll eat crow and he'll be a problem for sure.

[76ciology]

Fultz played well.