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2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1

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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#1141 » by Arsenal » Mon Nov 9, 2020 2:22 am

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Wish he were taller. Can jump out the building apparently though.


Looks to be RoCo type measurements. Fantastic for a potential 3&D role playing wing.

People are saying the problem w/him though is that he played Center and doesn't have wing skills. Would be a hard adjustment.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#1142 » by Negrodamus » Mon Nov 9, 2020 3:23 am

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Negrodamus wrote:I mean, there's no way that he's smaller than Tyrell Terry unless there was an absurd growth spurt. I'd need to see them standing next to each other to believe that.

I think Tyrell is more of an Ish Smith than Dotson. Ish was/is more of a distributor and also has that same slight body frame. He's more of a Mike Conley in my opinion.


Except that Ish Smith never could shoot. Terry obviously can.

Don't get me wrong, I think Dotson could be a good get w/a 2nd rounder. But I don't envision he has star potential, more of a useful 6th man or role playing starter.


Well we're projecting guys later in the first round. Of course he's not expected to be a star, but I'd rather go after guys with star attributes in the event he is an overlooked prospect.

His athleticism in the combine has been elite:

Devon Dotson, who has been projected anywhere from a late-first-round NBA Draft selection to the middle of the second round, posted a time of 3.02 seconds in the three-quarter court sprint, per ESPN's Jonathan Givony. According to the NBA Draft expert, that is the fastest time at this year's combine and second-fastest time in the past decade.

Dotson, per Givony, also posted the top lane agility time (10.44). His vertical leap was tested at 40 1/2 inches.


As opposed to someone like Ish Smith (who shot sub 45% from 2pt; a few seasons of sub 50% from FT) while at Wake Forest, Dotson shot 83% from FT and was one of the best finishers at the rim of any guard in this draft. He's a three level scorer and played excellent defense.

He could just be a role player at the next level, but his star attributes intrigue me over many players mocked in our general vicinity.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#1143 » by 76ciology » Mon Nov 9, 2020 4:12 pm

Kevin Pelton has Lamelo Ball as first overall. A tier of his own. :o
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#1144 » by No-Man » Mon Nov 9, 2020 7:56 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I mean, there's no way that he's smaller than Tyrell Terry unless there was an absurd growth spurt. I'd need to see them standing next to each other to believe that.

I think Tyrell is more of an Ish Smith than Dotson. Ish was/is more of a distributor and also has that same slight body frame. He's more of a Mike Conley in my opinion.


He is very obviously smaller than Terry who is full 6'3 in shoes, bit more, now

Also Terry is similar to Seth Curry, he has nothing in common with Ish who thrived on speed and good reads, Terry is steady but he has massive issues pushing the ball and dribbling forward

The issue with Dotson is that he is not good enough on-ball most likely and his shooting is iffy mechanically, I think his best role is a Derek Fisher type, athletic, good D, can shoot off-ball, but I don't see him as someone who will develop into a scorer on ball
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#1145 » by No-Man » Mon Nov 9, 2020 7:57 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
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Wish he were taller. Can jump out the building apparently though.

He is just bad at basketball, better than Reed but same boat, in the mid second, like 30-40s I'd be fine with taking a chance on him but no higher
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#1146 » by No-Man » Mon Nov 9, 2020 7:58 pm

76ciology wrote:Kevin Pelton has Lamelo Ball as first overall. A tier of his own. :o

So do I and so has anyone out there that you should respect for a long while now, it's obvious
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#1147 » by Rastas » Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:03 am

Fischella wrote:
76ciology wrote:Kevin Pelton has Lamelo Ball as first overall. A tier of his own. :o

So do I and so has anyone out there that you should respect for a long while now, it's obvious


Agree

I like this draft for alot of solid pieces but I can't really see anyone else have as much star potential as Lamelo.
A 6'7'' combo guard with handles, passing IQ and a shooters mentality - his upside is a taller Booker.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#1148 » by 76ciology » Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:48 am

Fischella wrote:
76ciology wrote:Kevin Pelton has Lamelo Ball as first overall. A tier of his own. :o

So do I and so has anyone out there that you should respect for a long while now, it's obvious


May I know why?
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#1149 » by MVP1992 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:37 pm

Rastas wrote:
Fischella wrote:
76ciology wrote:Kevin Pelton has Lamelo Ball as first overall. A tier of his own. :o

So do I and so has anyone out there that you should respect for a long while now, it's obvious


Agree

I like this draft for alot of solid pieces but I can't really see anyone else have as much star potential as Lamelo.
A 6'7'' combo guard with handles, passing IQ and a shooters mentality - his upside is a taller Booker.


I remember seeing people shoot the ball like Lamelo when I played under 10's. When the ball was too heavy for some little kids. They gave it the two handed heave-ho chest chuck.

Gross.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#1150 » by Lou_23 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:13 pm

This pick is also very much for sale if it returns the right player,

Last John Hollinger mock draft, about our 21 pick
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#1151 » by Negrodamus » Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:52 pm

I would be terrified to pick Ball or Edwards.

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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#1152 » by Mik317 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:17 pm

LaMelo is either going to be really good or really bad.

No way he's just average lol. Lonzo has the defense to fall back on. Melo has not shown any willingness to even attempt defense so far.

HOWEVA. a 6'7 PG is the holy grail. His willingness to let it fly; logic or sound form be damned is better than his brother who seems often shook to even look at the rim at times. So on one hand I wouldn't want to stake my franchise/job on him...but no one else at the top has that pop..so might as well, no?
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#1153 » by Sixersftw » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:34 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I would be terrified to pick Ball or Edwards.

I am also not to be respected.

I don't know about that. When I vehemently disagree with your positive take, that player is going to be an All Star. I have too many clear examples in my head. That being said, when I agree with your assessment then the player ends up garbage 90% of the time. Maybe, we're all trash at this? lol.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#1154 » by Negrodamus » Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:04 pm

Sixersftw wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:I would be terrified to pick Ball or Edwards.

I am also not to be respected.

I don't know about that. When I vehemently disagree with your positive take, that player is going to be an All Star. I have too many clear examples in my head. That being said, when I agree with your assessment then the player ends up garbage 90% of the time. Maybe, we're all trash at this? lol.


I just look at it as they're not garbage, they're not good YET. Like Royce White is about to turn the corner, just you wait.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#1155 » by No-Man » Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:51 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I would be terrified to pick Ball or Edwards.

I am also not to be respected.

Agreed with Edwards

Disagree on the latter, you are kinda the only reason I check realgm these days, with your flaws and all

Anyway my intl rankings for this class

Deni Avdija
Aleksej Pokusevski

Killian Hayes

Leandro Bolmaro
Théo Maledon
Yam Madar
Paul Eboua

Sergi Martínez
Marko Simonovic
Abdoulaye N'Doye
Vít Krejčí
Tadas Sedekerskis
Nenad Dimitrijevic
Joel Parra
Gytis Masiulis
Karim Mané (don't know enough)

I'd draft the first 11, maybe more depending on how many go and if I got a late 2nd

Also some guys who played in NCAA but have already signed in Europe and can work as stashes are interesting, esp Yanni Wetzell, Isiaha Mike, Justinian Jessup

I think Phila should keep all their 2nds and try to hit the lotto, more chances better than trading in this flat class, I'd be looking to add 2 players to the roster, one 2-way and 2 stashes

Yam Madar with one of your early 2nd round picks and whoever makes it to the end pick 58th, make sense to me
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#1156 » by Negrodamus » Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:36 pm

OT: but I still absolutely believe we should take Myles Powell with a second round pick based on his Junior season. If nothing else, he will be an exciting G-League 2 way for a year.

Way more interesting than our 2 way contracts last year, although Shayok was kinda fun.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#1157 » by kriss73 » Wed Nov 11, 2020 1:02 pm

I think there are a lot of "lottery tickets" in the second round this year.
I'd prefer tu use pick #21 to dump Al's contract (if necessary) and use 2/3 picks in the the second round.

Feel like we'll have solid players down the road coming from 2020 second round.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#1158 » by Negrodamus » Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:30 pm

Azubuike is 6'10 without shoes, has a 7'7 wingspan and a 41' vert. That's insane.
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#1159 » by Mik317 » Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:45 pm

ESPN/Givony has us taking Leandro Bolmaro
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Re: 2019-2020 College BBall/2020 NBA Draft Vol 1 

Post#1160 » by stormi » Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:50 pm

Puke at Bolmaro. Gives Sato vibes (good player) but his movements remind me of a playmaking variant Furkan. I'd almost rather go any other ballhandler at 21

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