Joel Embiid

[Murray_17]

If he's doubled find the open man. Stop giving his terrible passing out of double teams a free pass.

No one is doing so, and he's actually getting better at it.

But also, by logic, if you can sag on one man there is no open man or the open man is the one the opossing team wants

Most of his turnovers start when he's with his back to the basket outside the paint or when he has to drive to the paint from the 3 point line. That's a roster construction problem and a problem created by the fact there is not enough playmaking on the halfcourt, guess why?

[76ciology]

Most of those TOs are because he is not sharp anymore because of pain and fatigue. That explains why he was playing a lot better before those games.

An example in my mind is that outlet pass after a rebound where he just threw it to a hawks player.

Pain and fatigue.

How do you remove that? LeBron knows.

Join or form a superteam.

[Murray_17]

Most of those TOs are because he is not sharp anymore because of pain and fatigue. That explains why he was playing a lot better before those games.

An example in my mind is that outlet pass after a rebound where he just threw it to a hawks player.

Pain and fatigue.

How do you remove that? LeBron knows.

Join or form a superteam.

I don't think so?

Every player who has an USG similar to Jo has problems with Turnovers, if you look at the playoffs...

Joel has 42 turnovers on 11 games
Durant has 40 turnovers on 12 games
Giannis has 40 turnovers on 11 games
Luka has 32 turnovers on 7 games
Beal has 20 turnovers on 5 games

The only exceptions are Jokic and Mitchell. But Jokic played against the blazers and put Nurksic into foul trouble, Mitchell take a lot of spot 3s. The common theme among those teams is forcing their best players to play a lot of isos because the creation on them are poor

This is also one of the reasons to get a creator. We need to reduce the USG oj Jo

[Negrodamus]

Trae Young sucks: averaged almost 4 turnovers a game including 6 in game 7, en route to a complete dismantling of the Sixers.

[kuclas]

Embiid can’t be reliable closer. He more option 1b doesn’t end stretch. Same way shaq and Kobe. Embiid can get you close to finish line himself. We need the second primary closer. Harris isn’t that guy.

Look Ben wasn’t even in the game 96-92. We have no one. Asking fatiguing Embiid to initiate the play from 20 plus feet out is dangerous. He has handles. But he doesn’t have a point guard handle. He’s got a 7 foot above average handle. But ball can be swiped away. The more dribbles. The more chances for turnovers.

What nba championship team has taken their primary ball handler (who wasn’t primary or secondary offensive weapon) off the court in closing stretch.

Lakers and Derrick fisher
Boston and rondo
Even the Miami heat had chalmers in the game late.

Those are all primary ball handlers in the game.

[ConstableChaos]

Is Embiid due to get surgery on this knee in the off season?

[76ciology]

“We should have traded Ben when his value was high” this is the sentiment we have right now.

Should we trade Embiid right now while his value is high?

I think Embiid can be one of the all time great players in the league. But we know the risks that comes along with him.

The reason why I’d explore trading Biid is because I do think the league is just a scoring contest of the ball handler off a 2 man screen play.

And we can talk all day about CJ or Kyle Lowry. But those two ain’t going to outscore KD, Trae Young, Booker or Kawhi or PG.

“But sir we have Embiid”

Once you have CJ, he’s gonna take those shots.

If you have Trae running PnR with Embiid, would Trae Young pass up open shots for a floater just to hand it to Embiid and risk turning the ball over?

The big is just a pressure release valve for the ball handler just in case the defense opts to overplay.

[DCasey91]

Trae Young sucks: averaged almost 4 turnovers a game including 6 in game 7, en route to a complete dismantling of the Sixers.

76 assists, 25 turnovers

Better then 3:1 at basically 11 per game

Trae is going to be an MVP sooner rather then later.

Wait wait we are talking about Embiid here. He isn’t exactly the best at PNR even I would admit that.

But Embiid for Luka is automatic

[Negrodamus]

Trae Young sucks: averaged almost 4 turnovers a game including 6 in game 7, en route to a complete dismantling of the Sixers.

76 assists, 25 turnovers

Better then 3:1 at basically 11 per game

Trae is going to be an MVP sooner rather then later.

Wait wait we are talking about Embiid here. He isn’t exactly the best at PNR even I would admit that.

But Embiid for Luka is automatic

Yea, I was being sarcastic. He’s obviously great.

[DCasey91]

Trae Young sucks: averaged almost 4 turnovers a game including 6 in game 7, en route to a complete dismantling of the Sixers.

76 assists, 25 turnovers

Better then 3:1 at basically 11 per game

Trae is going to be an MVP sooner rather then later.

Wait wait we are talking about Embiid here. He isn’t exactly the best at PNR even I would admit that.

But Embiid for Luka is automatic

Yea, I was being sarcastic. He’s obviously great.

I know munchkins be damned!

We have a height prerequisite on our team.

TJ and Maxey don’t count everybody loves them lol

And Seth just plays NBA because his bro did and wants to prove he’s the better shooter. Works for us

[phillynative]

If Embiid elects to have surgery this offseason will he have time to work on his game , conditioning and weight or just have enough time to get ready for the next season???

Still would like to see him drop 10 -15 pounds. His conditioning was much better this season but still too much weight for his workload and health concerns.

He is top heavy and hits the floor too much. There has to be away to target his balance and work on not hitting the floor so much. I know he falls a certain way to prevent putting strain on his legs to prevent injury but has it really been all that effective so far? It prevents himself from getting back on Defense and he winds up banged up or injured anyway.

He has to continue to work on his decision maker and passing which there is no reason he shouldnt continue to improve with his work ethic.

The bottom line is he needs a sidekick on the perimeter to take the ball out his hands, relieve the pressure and get him and the team some easier shots through breaking down the defense.

[Rastas]

Is Embiid due to get surgery on this knee in the off season?

If he does I don't expect another MVP level season from him next season.

This season he had massive time off before the start (thank you covid) and did the right thing by coming in as fit and fresh as ever, Tobi also - both guys had their best Sixer seasons.
Imagine now if Joel starts under done and struggles with niggling injury's and has a sub par season , then asks for his SuperMax.

A year from now I see this board having as many dramas as it does today.

Good times - life should never be boring.

[rzzzzz]

He is top heavy and hits the floor too much. There has to be away to target his balance and work on not hitting the floor so much.

Because he leaves the floor too much. He’s got the athleticism to fly through the air and posterize folks, but his undercarriage is too vulnerable to bad landings, which is where he does all his damage. If he stayed on the ground (or at least keep it to hopping straight up and down) he could stay healthy. And be the most valuable player in the league.

[mjkvol]

Question for you guys, whose opinions I value more than most of what passes for media these days:

What would you say right now to a Portland offer of Lillard, Covington, and a pick for Embiid?

[youngcrev]

Question for you guys, whose opinions I value more than most of what passes for media these days:

What would you say right now to a Portland offer of Lillard, Covington, and a pick for Embiid?

Nah. Jo is better and has more elite years left in him. Cov and a pick are nice, yet almost inconsequential in terms of this scope.

[Kobblehead]

Question for you guys, whose opinions I value more than most of what passes for media these days:

What would you say right now to a Portland offer of Lillard, Covington, and a pick for Embiid?

Hard no because of Dame's contract. I don't dislike the value of the trade. Lillard's contract is a non-starter, though. Truly one of the worst in the NBA.

[mjkvol]

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[XtremeDunkz]

lol yall really talking about trading Embiid. This board never ceases to amaze. Philly fans as a whole desrve a poverty franchise.

[kuclas]

lol yall really talking about trading Embiid. This board never ceases to amaze. Philly fans as a whole desrve a poverty franchise.

Embiid is switching agencies. So depends what he wants. If he wants out. He can force his way out like any star if player.

I don’t think Sixers will willingly trade Embiid. No matter what the offer is.

Simmons is really good in regular season and when the action is high pace. But when the game slows down in the playoffs. He’s a huge negative in a tight ball game. Sixers lost the series due to games 4/5. That was due to blown leads. We literally have to be up big for Simmons to be playable.

The only close game we won was game 6. And guess what? Simmons was in foul trouble most of the game. And in a tight ball games Simmons was substituted out with 6 minutes left in 4th quarter of a 6 point game due to hack a Simmons. And Sixers did fine cause Simmons was out. Due to maxey playing well.

We needed a competent reliable point guard in games 4/5 to close it out. But we didn’t have it. Embiid deserves better.

[mjkvol]

Wow, I didn't realize suggesting something on a fan forum to hear the opinions of other fans was grounds for deserving a "poverty" franchise. No one was advocating anything, it was an idea for discussion. I didn't realize such thoughts were verboten.