2020-2021 College Basketball / NBA Draft

[Kobblehead]

I think they share strong commonalities of being shooting-dependent players that draw their fouls through shooting motion tricks as opposed to attacking the basket. Neither make many plays on the defensive end by way of generating steals or blocks. I think Thomas is basically a bigger, better version of Quickley. It's real easy to see Thomas' production translating. Quickely put up big numbers as a rookie. Just not sure I'd ever want a limited slasher like these guys making up my creation core.

[Kobblehead]

Transfers heading to Texas

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/tre-mitchell-1.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/marcus-carr-2.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/dylan-disu-1.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/timmy-allen-1.html

Just give them the trophy now and get it over with.

[Kobblehead]

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/paul-scruggs-1.html

Paul Scruggs is interesting. Was just a creator with mediocre scoring volume through most of his career and then put together the full package as a senior. Improved his defense and passing tremendously.

At 6'4" 196, he's got awesome size for a PG. Would be a pretty good UFA signing. In terms of pure skillset, he's got everything but shooting based on his senior year output.

[76ciology]

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Same player

Maybe on eyetest. But numbers say it’s like comparing Ben Simmons and LeBron james.

Cam Thomas has the scorer DNA, the motor of a 20+ppg scorer (empty scorer lol) like Beal, Lavine or Booker. His footwork is already advanced and the crazy thing is he can get better.

He’s not a finished product but you need less miracles unlike other guys like Ben, for him to be an elite scorer in the league. Remember that scoring in the NBA is EASIER because of how soft the calls are and there is less zone defense.

If he has a 6’10 and above wingspan, he’d be a lot sexier pick IMO. I like guys with a good height to wingspan ratio.

At worst for me he’d be like Gary Trent Jr or Tj Warren where they’d drop 20 per game on good %s. But if you put both guys on a winning team, like ours, the narrative could change just as how Booker is viewed in a different light with CP3.

If you want the “cheapest shot” to get your next Booker, its this guy. Risk vs reward is good. Im not saying he’s next Booker. It’s just the amount you have to pay and the max possible return is very feasible.

[Kobblehead]

He's an ultra contemporary player, that's for sure. His entire game (foul baiting, only shooting jumpers) is very in-line with the league trends.

I'd rather have an attacker, Shariffe Cooper, for instance.

[Kobblehead]

I think the SEC is the most poorly scouted conference this year.

Tre Mann and Shariffe Cooper should be top 10 picks.
Trendon Watford should be a lotto pick.
Dru Smith should be taken in the 25-40 range.

[DCasey91]

The pick is gonesky for me.

[Kobblehead]

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Look at the effortless transition between post scoring and face-up creating off the dribble from the three point line. One of the most skilled one-on-one players in this draft when you account for him being 6'9" 240+. Better shotcreator than almost all the guards being mocked in the first round, as pathetic as that sounds.

[76ciology]

The pick is gonesky for me.

I dont mind. I just hope we can put it into good use.

[Kobblehead]

https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/2021/07/22/nba-draft-cameron-thomas-late-lottery/

@76iology

It looks like Thomas is getting a reconsideration by a lot of lotto teams. These teams are probably looking at some of the players on big boards and realizing they're nothing special and are starting to warm up to the idea of the guaranteed scoring/shooting production of Thomas.

[76ciology]

https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/2021/07/22/nba-draft-cameron-thomas-late-lottery/

@76iology

It looks like Thomas is getting a reconsideration by a lot of lotto teams. These teams are probably looking at some of the players on big boards and realizing they're nothing special and are starting to warm up to the idea of the guaranteed scoring/shooting production of Thomas.

Haha lets see. A lot of smoke of mirrors heading to the draft. I remember how there were news about drafting Exum in 2014 on draft day! Haha

[Kobblehead]

https://sixerswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/23/sixers-to-work-out-jeremiah-robinson-earl-nigel-hayes-at-facility/

Earl is talented, but can't imagine much more than a P.J. Washington type career out of him. He moves his feet well defensively for a PF and has some iso post ability, though. Interesting but not exciting prospect.

[Kobblehead]

https://sixerswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/24/draft-prospect-austin-reaves-talks-workout-with-sixers-fit-with-stars/

I'm not giving up hope yet. These comments from Austin Reaves are encouraging.

“They’ve been looking for a shot creator and someone who can create for himself and create for others,”

[76ciology]

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I like Butler more. But admittedly, im just casually scouting these guys. Did a mock after looking 3 mins clips of these guys and looking their numbers

[Kobblehead]

History says to avoid using lotto picks on 22 year olds that sucked until the very end of their college career. Mitchell will be 23 in September.

[Kobblehead]

Is Usman Garuba the next Sekou?

Why use a 1st rounder of a defensive specialist who averages 4.7 ppg?

Doesn't seem like he's pro-ready at all IMO.

[Negrodamus]

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I like Butler more. But admittedly, im just casually scouting these guys. Did a mock after looking 3 mins clips of these guys and looking their numbers

I need an explanation from someone on why Mitchell is a better prospect (15+ spots better in most instances) than McBride at age 23.

[Kobblehead]

I need an explanation from someone on why Mitchell is a better prospect (15+ spots better in most instances) than McBride at age 23.

There's not a valid explanation why. But some things that may be in play are:

1. Mitchell is more explosive athletically
2. Michell possesses more advanced ball handling and has a better shotcreation package. Although he had way more time to develop that than McBride did.
3. Mitchell was on GM's future big boards 5 years ago as a Top 100 highschool player. McBride is probably a guy they only noticed this year. He was an unknown highschool player that didn't start as a freshman.

[Kobblehead]

I think McBride and Hyland are really good pieces. They got the youth, they got the defense, they got the jumpshot, they're not lost with the ball in their hands. I just wonder if they're good enough on the ball to be a creation core piece. I put these guys all in the same group.

Suggs
Christopher
McBride
Hyland

I know these guys can defend. I know these guys will have reasonable jumpers. I know these guys can handle the ball to certain extents. Will any of these guys be ace creators at the next level? I have questions about that. I put them in a similar category to Tyrese Haliburton.

No questions about Tre Mann or Shariffe Cooper in this regard. They don't offer the defense of these guys, but they are no brainer, go-to scoring options IMO.

[76ciology]

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I like Butler more. But admittedly, im just casually scouting these guys. Did a mock after looking 3 mins clips of these guys and looking their numbers

I need an explanation from someone on why Mitchell is a better prospect (15+ spots better in most instances) than McBride at age 23.

Numbers for both is almost flat.

Mitchell better guard skills and shooting numbers.

Gun in my head, I’d take Mitchell

McBride is a good player but he just seems like a straight line player with the ball, mitchell is more shifty with good burst of speed.

I dont know if its just appearance but he reminds me a lot of Marcus Smart when he’s attacking with the ball. A lot of drives then the defense blocking is path then him settling for jumpers.