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Re: Joel: unchained. 

Post#1141 » by eyeatoma » Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:59 pm

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Good lord, our luck is so **** horrible. Hopefully it's the mildest sprain possible of the ACL. UGhgggggggggggggg
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Re: Joel: unchained. 

Post#1142 » by Stanford » Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:09 pm

Either way, he's not going to be 100. Another 2nd round exit.
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Re: Joel: unchained. 

Post#1143 » by Jailblazers7 » Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:31 pm

We’ll see how bad it actually is in a week. This definitely sucks but it’s probably the healthiest we can actually expect Joel to be at this point in the season.
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Re: Joel: unchained. 

Post#1144 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:05 pm

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Good lord, our luck is so **** horrible. Hopefully it's the mildest sprain possible of the ACL. UGhgggggggggggggg


I think you're panicking a bit here. ACL sprains are minor injuries with little long-term damage to the ligament. Sprains usually heal in one to two weeks with rest, icing, and over-the-counter pain medication as recommended by your orthopedic specialist.
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Re: Joel: unchained. 

Post#1145 » by eyeatoma » Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:29 pm

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Good lord, our luck is so **** horrible. Hopefully it's the mildest sprain possible of the ACL. UGhgggggggggggggg


I think you're panicking a bit here. ACL sprains are minor injuries with little long-term damage to the ligament. Sprains usually heal in one to two weeks with rest, icing, and over-the-counter pain medication as recommended by your orthopedic specialist.


Hope so man.
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Re: Joel: unchained. 

Post#1146 » by Skates » Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:34 pm

The Sixers need to go back to one of Morey's early, but never well executed principles of violence at the rim. By that I mean that having Embiid out there as the sole rim protector 99% of the time he is on the floor is the place he tends to pick up injuries, especially on shot blocks and shot block attempts, especially with the leaky perimeter defense we have had over the years. It is a minefield on those kinds of plays for his extremities and back, especially his legs. Even if the acute injury doesn't occur there, those plays build up damage on his legs.

McDaniels is a step in the right direction to add some additional rim protection and should continue into the future. If they do that they will get a lot more solid years of offensive excellence and timely defense, when truly needed, from Embiid. A rim protecting PF that can shoot, not the easiest thing to find in the world, its why JJJ was drafted up there with Luka, but a lesser version of JJJ, a role player sort who takes a lot of the interior defensive load from Embiid would go a long way to getting the most out of his prime and of his seasons.

In return, Embiid would need to learn to conserve his body, which he already does with the falls that are actually planned to avoid foot impacts, but if they can get him a defensive counterpart in the starting line up, playing conservatively there, not going for the highlight reel dunks and basically Tim Duncan-ing it is the way for him to play in the future, but again, he needs the right guys around him for that.
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Re: Joel: unchained. 

Post#1147 » by Jay555 » Mon Apr 24, 2023 12:14 am

Skates wrote:The Sixers need to go back to one of Morey's early, but never well executed principles of violence at the rim. By that I mean that having Embiid out there as the sole rim protector 99% of the time he is on the floor is the place he tends to pick up injuries, especially on shot blocks and shot block attempts, especially with the leaky perimeter defense we have had over the years. It is a minefield on those kinds of plays for his extremities and back, especially his legs. Even if the acute injury doesn't occur there, those plays build up damage on his legs.

McDaniels is a step in the right direction to add some additional rim protection and should continue into the future. If they do that they will get a lot more solid years of offensive excellence and timely defense, when truly needed, from Embiid. A rim protecting PF that can shoot, not the easiest thing to find in the world, its why JJJ was drafted up there with Luka, but a lesser version of JJJ, a role player sort who takes a lot of the interior defensive load from Embiid would go a long way to getting the most out of his prime and of his seasons.

In return, Embiid would need to learn to conserve his body, which he already does with the falls that are actually planned to avoid foot impacts, but if they can get him a defensive counterpart in the starting line up, playing conservatively there, not going for the highlight reel dunks and basically Tim Duncan-ing it is the way for him to play in the future, but again, he needs the right guys around him for that.


It feels like Paul Reed with a jumper would be the answer at the 5 while Embiid gets to play the 4.

Anyways, I have not seen many bigs that are durable. Shaq maybe?
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Re: Joel: unchained. 

Post#1148 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Mon Apr 24, 2023 1:00 am

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Skates wrote:The Sixers need to go back to one of Morey's early, but never well executed principles of violence at the rim. By that I mean that having Embiid out there as the sole rim protector 99% of the time he is on the floor is the place he tends to pick up injuries, especially on shot blocks and shot block attempts, especially with the leaky perimeter defense we have had over the years. It is a minefield on those kinds of plays for his extremities and back, especially his legs. Even if the acute injury doesn't occur there, those plays build up damage on his legs.

McDaniels is a step in the right direction to add some additional rim protection and should continue into the future. If they do that they will get a lot more solid years of offensive excellence and timely defense, when truly needed, from Embiid. A rim protecting PF that can shoot, not the easiest thing to find in the world, its why JJJ was drafted up there with Luka, but a lesser version of JJJ, a role player sort who takes a lot of the interior defensive load from Embiid would go a long way to getting the most out of his prime and of his seasons.

In return, Embiid would need to learn to conserve his body, which he already does with the falls that are actually planned to avoid foot impacts, but if they can get him a defensive counterpart in the starting line up, playing conservatively there, not going for the highlight reel dunks and basically Tim Duncan-ing it is the way for him to play in the future, but again, he needs the right guys around him for that.


It feels like Paul Reed with a jumper would be the answer at the 5 while Embiid gets to play the 4.

Anyways, I have not seen many bigs that are durable. Shaq maybe?


You beat me to it. Paul Reed with a respectable J would be just what the doctor ordered. Problem is, he either still can't shoot or Doc simply does not allow it for the time being. My hope is that Paul Reed can be for us what Chris Boucher is for the Raptors. As Skates noted, adding McDaniels is a step in the right direction. I think this summer we should prioritize a player that has length, athleticism, and a reliable outside shot. Options are going to be incredibly slim I realize that. One player I do like is Trey Lyles, but we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves with all that. I also have a feeling that Chris Boucher will be available for the right price. If Toronto decides on a rebuild then we should be looking at a few of the players they might have available. Again, that's getting a bit ahead of ourselves.
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Re: Joel: unchained. 

Post#1149 » by ProcessDoctor » Mon Apr 24, 2023 1:00 am

Skates wrote:The Sixers need to go back to one of Morey's early, but never well executed principles of violence at the rim. By that I mean that having Embiid out there as the sole rim protector 99% of the time he is on the floor is the place he tends to pick up injuries, especially on shot blocks and shot block attempts, especially with the leaky perimeter defense we have had over the years. It is a minefield on those kinds of plays for his extremities and back, especially his legs. Even if the acute injury doesn't occur there, those plays build up damage on his legs.

McDaniels is a step in the right direction to add some additional rim protection and should continue into the future. If they do that they will get a lot more solid years of offensive excellence and timely defense, when truly needed, from Embiid. A rim protecting PF that can shoot, not the easiest thing to find in the world, its why JJJ was drafted up there with Luka, but a lesser version of JJJ, a role player sort who takes a lot of the interior defensive load from Embiid would go a long way to getting the most out of his prime and of his seasons.

In return, Embiid would need to learn to conserve his body, which he already does with the falls that are actually planned to avoid foot impacts, but if they can get him a defensive counterpart in the starting line up, playing conservatively there, not going for the highlight reel dunks and basically Tim Duncan-ing it is the way for him to play in the future, but again, he needs the right guys around him for that.


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Re: Joel: unchained. 

Post#1150 » by Embiid P » Mon Apr 24, 2023 1:41 am

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Skates wrote:The Sixers need to go back to one of Morey's early, but never well executed principles of violence at the rim. By that I mean that having Embiid out there as the sole rim protector 99% of the time he is on the floor is the place he tends to pick up injuries, especially on shot blocks and shot block attempts, especially with the leaky perimeter defense we have had over the years. It is a minefield on those kinds of plays for his extremities and back, especially his legs. Even if the acute injury doesn't occur there, those plays build up damage on his legs.

McDaniels is a step in the right direction to add some additional rim protection and should continue into the future. If they do that they will get a lot more solid years of offensive excellence and timely defense, when truly needed, from Embiid. A rim protecting PF that can shoot, not the easiest thing to find in the world, its why JJJ was drafted up there with Luka, but a lesser version of JJJ, a role player sort who takes a lot of the interior defensive load from Embiid would go a long way to getting the most out of his prime and of his seasons.

In return, Embiid would need to learn to conserve his body, which he already does with the falls that are actually planned to avoid foot impacts, but if they can get him a defensive counterpart in the starting line up, playing conservatively there, not going for the highlight reel dunks and basically Tim Duncan-ing it is the way for him to play in the future, but again, he needs the right guys around him for that.


It feels like Paul Reed with a jumper would be the answer at the 5 while Embiid gets to play the 4.

Anyways, I have not seen many bigs that are durable. Shaq maybe?


You beat me to it. Paul Reed with a respectable J would be just what the doctor ordered. Problem is, he either still can't shoot or Doc simply does not allow it for the time being. My hope is that Paul Reed can be for us what Chris Boucher is for the Raptors. As Skates noted, adding McDaniels is a step in the right direction. I think this summer we should prioritize a player that has length, athleticism, and a reliable outside shot. Options are going to be incredibly slim I realize that. One player I do like is Trey Lyles, but we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves with all that. I also have a feeling that Chris Boucher will be available for the right price. If Toronto decides on a rebuild then we should be looking at a few of the players they might have available. Again, that's getting a bit ahead of ourselves.


Don't forget that we have an expiring Tobias in the offseason which could hypothetically fetch a 3 and D wing or two from a rebuilding team and possibly a backup PG which we sorely need. The thing is Morey has to do it early in the offseason (preferably before free agency) so that Harden doesn't decide to leave.
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Re: Joel: unchained. 

Post#1151 » by Sixteen » Mon Apr 24, 2023 1:50 am

What happens if the Bucks/Heat or Knicks/Cavs series keeps going? Do we start our series regardless?
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Re: Joel: unchained. 

Post#1152 » by eyeatoma » Mon Apr 24, 2023 3:16 am

Phila Tough wrote:What happens if the Bucks/Heat or Knicks/Cavs series keeps going? Do we start our series regardless?
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Re: Joel: unchained. 

Post#1153 » by FireMorey » Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:22 pm

Shams said Sixers believe he should be back for game 1, but we'll see.
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Post#1154 » by SixthStreet » Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:33 pm

I think it's clear he will play G1, the question is how effective he will be.

If the Celtics close it out in G5, there will be a three day break between games 2 and 3. I wonder if there will be any thought to sit out Embiid the first two games. Likely no as that pretty much guarantees a 2-0 hole.
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Post#1155 » by Ksny13 » Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:43 pm

He's an amazing elite HOF caliber player when healthy but he's so unreliable in the post season because of his injuries. If a 2nd round exit happens Philly needs to blow it up and build around Maxey. Trade Embid for picks and young pieces. Don't resign Harden.
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Re: Joel: unchained. 

Post#1156 » by Bum Adebayo » Mon Apr 24, 2023 7:23 pm

Ksny13 wrote:He's an amazing elite HOF caliber player when healthy but he's so unreliable in the post season because of his injuries. If a 2nd round exit happens Philly needs to blow it up and build around Maxey. Trade Embid for picks and young pieces. Don't resign Harden.


You don't build around Maxey, he is not good enough, similar to the idiocy of building around Simmons years ago.
He may be a core piece yes, but you don't build around him.
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Post#1157 » by mjkvol » Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:51 pm

SixthStreet wrote:I think it's clear he will play G1, the question is how effective he will be.

If the Celtics close it out in G5, there will be a three day break between games 2 and 3. I wonder if there will be any thought to sit out Embiid the first two games. Likely no as that pretty much guarantees a 2-0 hole.


I would sit him out for game one if it meant we get a 90% Embiid for six games as opposed to 75%.
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Post#1158 » by Bum Adebayo » Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:03 pm

mjkvol wrote:
SixthStreet wrote:I think it's clear he will play G1, the question is how effective he will be.

If the Celtics close it out in G5, there will be a three day break between games 2 and 3. I wonder if there will be any thought to sit out Embiid the first two games. Likely no as that pretty much guarantees a 2-0 hole.


I would sit him out for game one if it meant we get a 90% Embiid for six games as opposed to 75%.


Yeah, I mean game 1 is 90% a loss with him playing anyway, it would be better to put all the effort in Game 2 or 5 to steal HC.
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Re: Joel: unchained. 

Post#1159 » by eyeatoma » Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:25 pm

Good news, lcl not ACL.

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Post#1160 » by rzzzzz » Mon Apr 24, 2023 9:45 pm



(Just steal one more game, willya?)

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